Re: Major Photoshop Slowdown problems on fast machine… help please

"Sean Dempsey" wrote in
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It typically just gets worse from there. I

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 22:15:02 GMT, Sean Dempsey
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Photoshop and system optimization

I am curious if anyone here knows how to really optimize the performance of photoshop CS. I am not getting very good performance, but I don’t know what is wrong. I am a pretty savvy user, so I can set settings and understand whatever I need to, I am just ignorant right now of what photoshop needs to really run at it’s best.
My system and setup is such:
-2.8 p4 hyperthreading

Turn off hyperthreading. PS is slower with hyperthreading turned on.

-2 gigs 400mhz pc3200 ram
-serial ATA C: drive, 80 gig
-serial ATA D: drive, 80 gig
-120 gig IDE partitioned, S: (10 gig scratch disk) and T: (110 gig storage)
-128meg Geforce 4 ti…

That is the basic setup of my performance parts. Everything is defragged and the computer runs fine.

My windows settings are:
-Processor Scheduling set to Programs
-Memory Usage set to System Cache
-one page file, set to the C: drive, 2000-3000 MB

My photoshop settings are:
-First Scratch is set to the S: drive (10 gig partition) -Second scratch is set to the D: drive

Set your first scratch disk to D. SATA drives are faster and PS uses the scratch disks sequentially, not in parallel.

-Cache Levels are at 8
-Available RAM is 86% = 1528mb

How much RAM are you allowing PS as a percentage?

That is the basic setup.

Here is my problem – photoshop runs pretty clunky For instance, I just opened up a 2.17 meg image, first image of the day to be opened. Immediately my scratch indicator in the status bar reads “Scr:
1.91G/1.44G” and the actual file on the S: drive is 1.93 gigabytes.
Also, the photoshop efficiency is at 24%. This is all without having done ANYTHING in photoshop so far. I opened the program, opened a 2 meg file, and those are the results I get.

It typically just gets worse from there. I’ll get major slowdowns, my efficiency will drop to 4 or 3%, the Scratch indicator will sometimes read “Scr: 2.31G/1.44G” or worse. Sometimes photoshop locks up for about 20 seconds or more, the title bars all go white like it’s not responding, and then comes back.

So I am at a loss. I have the hard drives, ram, and CPU for photoshop CS to run fast, right? I don’t see what it isn’t, unless I have something totally set to reduce performance in my swap file or scratches or something.

If you have any idea or info, please let me know. I am eager to get this worked out.

Do you have Autofx software and, in particular, Photographic Edges loading with PS?

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To Hecate:

I dont’ know how to turn off hyperthreading, but I’ll look into it.

I could switch the scratch disk to the D drive. I hesitated to do tha because that drive also has my images, which consists of thousands an thousands of RAW files from my camera, 6.5 megapixels, plus all th PSD’s that can get over 200 megs each. But maybe I can store the image on the IDE drive and use the SATA’s differently.

I have set photoshop now to 50% ram which says it uses 1012 mb.

I don’t have Autofx or Photographic edges.

To xcat: I don’t have the image browser running while I am editin images, I close it down
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On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 07:15:01 GMT, Sean Dempsey
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To Hecate:

I dont’ know how to turn off hyperthreading, but I’ll look into it.
I could switch the scratch disk to the D drive. I hesitated to do that because that drive also has my images, which consists of thousands and thousands of RAW files from my camera, 6.5 megapixels, plus all the PSD’s that can get over 200 megs each. But maybe I can store the images on the IDE drive and use the SATA’s differently.

You’re better off using the slower drives as storage and the faster drives to work from.

I have set photoshop now to 50% ram which says it uses 1012 mb.

Try 60% and even 70% (as long as you don’t have much else running.).

If you’re still having a problem with small images try trashing your preference file.

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Turn off hyperthreading. PS is slower with hyperthreading turned on<.

So hyperthreading makes it run slower?? I don’t have experience with it yet, but I was told that PS was one of the programs that hyperthreading would benefit from. Could you explain please? Thanks!
Terry

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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 22:15:02 GMT, Sean Dempsey
wrote:

Photoshop and system optimization

I am curious if anyone here knows how to really optimize the performance of photoshop CS. I am not getting very good performance, but I don’t know what is wrong. I am a pretty savvy user, so I can set settings and understand whatever I need to, I am just ignorant right now of what photoshop needs to really run at it’s best.

My system and setup is such:
-2.8 p4 hyperthreading

Turn off hyperthreading. PS is slower with hyperthreading turned on.

-2 gigs 400mhz pc3200 ram
-serial ATA C: drive, 80 gig
-serial ATA D: drive, 80 gig
-120 gig IDE partitioned, S: (10 gig scratch disk) and T: (110 gig storage)
-128meg Geforce 4 ti.

That is the basic setup of my performance parts. Everything is defragged and the computer runs fine.

My windows settings are:
-Processor Scheduling set to Programs
-Memory Usage set to System Cache
-one page file, set to the C: drive, 2000-3000 MB

My photoshop settings are:
-First Scratch is set to the S: drive (10 gig partition) -Second scratch is set to the D: drive

Set your first scratch disk to D. SATA drives are faster and PS uses the scratch disks sequentially, not in parallel.

-Cache Levels are at 8
-Available RAM is 86% = 1528mb

How much RAM are you allowing PS as a percentage?

That is the basic setup.

Here is my problem – photoshop runs pretty clunky For instance, I just opened up a 2.17 meg image, first image of the day to be opened. Immediately my scratch indicator in the status bar reads "Scr:
1.91G/1.44G" and the actual file on the S: drive is 1.93 gigabytes.
Also, the photoshop efficiency is at 24%. This is all without having done ANYTHING in photoshop so far. I opened the program, opened a 2 meg file, and those are the results I get.

It typically just gets worse from there. I’ll get major slowdowns, my efficiency will drop to 4 or 3%, the Scratch indicator will sometimes read "Scr: 2.31G/1.44G" or worse. Sometimes photoshop locks up for about 20 seconds or more, the title bars all go white like it’s not responding, and then comes back.

So I am at a loss. I have the hard drives, ram, and CPU for photoshop CS to run fast, right? I don’t see what it isn’t, unless I have something totally set to reduce performance in my swap file or scratches or something.

If you have any idea or info, please let me know. I am eager to get this worked out.

Do you have Autofx software and, in particular, Photographic Edges loading with PS?

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Hey there,

I’m having the same issues … I have a great machine (AMD 1.6, 512RAM XP Pro no software but design apps as I just formatted recently)

I load PS CS, 50 megs in RAM (According to task manager). I load a meg PS file, and my usage jumps to 245! It gets better!

I thought maybe it was the file itself, so I started deleting layer b layer ( and usage drops by a few K each layer) until nothing is lef but the BG layer, but I’m still at 240 something… I CLOSE the file and usage stays!

To confirm, I load another file, also 2-3 meg range, usage jumps t 255. I close the last file I opened, but usage remains. I try tha again, RAM goes to 260, close the file, usage remains at 260!

This is normal?!?!

My scratch is on another drive, jus del preferences, no HT (using AMD) what goin on ?
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 06:47:40 GMT, "Terry Heick" wrote:

Turn off hyperthreading. PS is slower with hyperthreading turned on<.

So hyperthreading makes it run slower?? I don’t have experience with it yet, but I was told that PS was one of the programs that hyperthreading would benefit from. Could you explain please? Thanks!
Terry

Sure. The tests I’ve seen have shown PS running slower with hyperthreading.

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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 22:14:51 GMT, Cstreams
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Hey there,

I’m having the same issues … I have a great machine (AMD 1.6, 512RAM, XP Pro no software but design apps as I just formatted recently)
I load PS CS, 50 megs in RAM (According to task manager). I load a 3 meg PS file, and my usage jumps to 245! It gets better!

I thought maybe it was the file itself, so I started deleting layer by layer ( and usage drops by a few K each layer) until nothing is left but the BG layer, but I’m still at 240 something… I CLOSE the file, and usage stays!

To confirm, I load another file, also 2-3 meg range, usage jumps to 255. I close the last file I opened, but usage remains. I try that again, RAM goes to 260, close the file, usage remains at 260!
This is normal?!?!

No., it isn’t.

My scratch is on another drive, jus del preferences, no HT (using AMD), what goin on ??

I’m wondering what else is getting loaded with the file or with PS.

What plugins are you using?

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wrote on 07/26/2004 5:32 PM:

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 06:47:40 GMT, "Terry Heick" wrote:

Turn off hyperthreading. PS is slower with hyperthreading turned on<.

So hyperthreading makes it run slower?? I don’t have experience with it yet, but I was told that PS was one of the programs that hyperthreading would benefit from. Could you explain please? Thanks!
Terry

Sure. The tests I’ve seen have shown PS running faster with hyperthreading.

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Sure.

Multi processors? I haven’t had the chance to work with hyper threading yet, I have dual processor 1.4GHZ Pentium Tualatin core with 512k cache processors mated to 1 ghz ram and stripe 0 raid array hard drive set and Photo shop cs seems just fine on this. You guys got my curiosity up, is there any standard benchmark files I can run to see how this box stands up to new systems out there?
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in article , Hecate at
wrote on 07/26/2004 5:32 PM:

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 06:47:40 GMT, "Terry Heick" wrote:

Turn off hyperthreading. PS is slower with hyperthreading turned on<.

So hyperthreading makes it run slower?? I don’t have experience with

it

yet, but I was told that PS was one of the programs that hyperthreading would benefit from. Could you explain please? Thanks!
Terry

Sure. The tests I’ve seen have shown PS running faster with hyperthreading.

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Hecate – The Real One

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Sure.

Not for you and your kind.

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wrote on 07/27/2004 5:58 PM:

Multi processors? I haven’t had the chance to work with hyper threading yet, I have dual processor 1.4GHZ Pentium Tualatin core with 512k cache processors mated to 1 ghz ram and stripe 0 raid array hard drive set and Photo shop cs seems just fine on this. You guys got my curiosity up, is there any standard benchmark files I can run to see how this box stands up to new systems out there?
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in article , Hecate at
wrote on 07/26/2004 5:32 PM:

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 06:47:40 GMT, "Terry Heick" wrote:

Turn off hyperthreading. PS is slower with hyperthreading turned on<.

So hyperthreading makes it run slower?? I don’t have experience with

it

yet, but I was told that PS was one of the programs that hyperthreading would benefit from. Could you explain please? Thanks!
Terry

Sure. The tests I’ve seen have shown PS running faster with hyperthreading.

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Sure.

Photoshop CS is not very fast at all !!!!!

I have several different type of c omputers and Photoshop CS opens files very slow and sometimes freezes up for up to 20 to 4 seconds.

Hyperthreading does not slow down photshop at all by anymeans. I have a very fast machine I custom ordered from Sony about six month ago. NO HYPERTHREADING in my PC..

SONY VAIO (Custom)
Specs:

Dual 2.6 P4 processors
2 Gigs of RDRAM PC1033 = 1.3gigahertz
ATA 7200RPM 8Meg cache

I turn everything off in the background and let Photoshop use al memory resources…

Now, for all those not knowing about type of ram your PC uses.

RDRAM is the fastest and superior ram to date.
Companies are working on DDR to compete with the speed of RDRAM

RDRAM is 1.3 gigahertz fast and has a wider information highway in an out. RDRAM was discontinued in store sold PC’s because of cost. It is too expensive to manufacture and produce.
So it is up to heavy video and photo editors to request such type o ram.

With that said, PHOTOSHOP CS is still slow slow slow.
Photoshop 7.0 is extremely faster, bottom line.

Photoshop CS has many great and over all better features, and editin tools, but…in the end it is extremely annoyinly SLOW…!!!

Eddie

P.S.
I must say that ADOBE has done a great job with Premier Pro..!! It is lighting fast, and realtime viewing, not to mention all the grea editing goodies!!
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