Changing white to another color?

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Paul_Chaplo
Mar 4, 2004
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A white (rgb: 255, 255, 255) does not seem to be able to be targeted as the color to be altered by the Color Replacement Tool, Replace Color, or Selective Color. Am I missing anything? This must be a given, that white or black do not work for these PS CS features. Right?

I have these pure white areas in an image that I want to replace with a color. What is the best approach? I was thinking of magic wand. I dont think that Select>Color will work either. Strange. White is not a color!

Suggestions Welcome!

Thanks,
Paul

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dave_milbut
Mar 4, 2004
use a hue/sat adjustment layer and check the colorize box. there are probably 3 other ways to do it too… 🙂
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John_Slate
Mar 4, 2004
Am I missing anything?

I think you must be, because I do not see what you see.

Perhaps your preferences need deleting.

Anyway here is a suggestion:

If your image layer is a background convert it to a normal layer by double clicking on it in the layers palette.

Add a new layer under that and fill with the color you want to put in the white areas.

Back on the image layer go into layer options, and on the "this layer" blend if slider, split the 2 white triangles on the right using the Alt key, and pull one to the left until the amount of white you want replaced is replaced.
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PaulChaps
Mar 4, 2004
Hi John,

I do not see what you see.

Are you saying that this is false?:

"That’s because the tools you are trying to use "replace" color. If >you have white (RGB 255,255,255 or CMYK 0%, 0%, 0%, 0%) then you >have no color info to "Change" you need some value to be able to >change it. Same with Black.

Hue Saturation is the same way. Open an image with white, black and >other colors and slide the slider bar for Hue and watch what >happens. Whites and blacks stay the same, only colors will change."

Is this quote also incorrect? Ive deleted my prefs, and the same happens. John, did you actually try the color replacement type of tool on a 255, 255, 255 RGB white?

I just take pictures, but my PS CS behaves in the way described above. I can see the surrounding color change, but not the 255 255 255 white.

I’ll try again later, I have a batch RAW conversion running.

Thanks,
Paul
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John_Slate
Mar 4, 2004
Yes I’m saying that is false.

White is just as much a color as any other. All it is, is a set of numbers assigned to a pixel. A 255/255/255 or 0/0/0/0 pixel carries the same amount of data as any other.

Of course if you use the image>adjust>replace color option, you can select the white with the eyedropper and adjust the fuzziness, but all you could do it darken it to some gray. The saturation control and the hue control would have no effect since white has no saturation and without saturation, hue is meaningless.

Maybe that is what you meant.

You could also try select>color range and sample the white, and play with fuzziness, then fill the resulting selection with any color you want.
JS
John_Slate
Mar 4, 2004
Let’s put it this way:

In order to increase or decrease the saturation of a color it needs to have some saturation to begin with, not zero.

A neutral color like black or white or any of the greys in between is just such a beast… zero saturation.

If you were to add saturation how would the program know toward what color you meant?

Similarly, neutrals can be said to contain no hue, or all hues at once really, so altering the hue component of a neutral would do nothing.

The moment you step off the neutral axis (like 255/254/255) then you have both a hue and a saturation to work with.

Try it. Fill with 255/254/255 then use the image>adjust>replace color option. Sample the 255/254/255 and slide the saturation slider to 100. Now start sliding the lightness slider to the left. Here comes magenta! Now that you have that color, you can start sliding the hue slider around.

BTW, the image>adjust>replace color option is really misnamed.

You are not really replacing the color, but ALTERING the HSL of the chosen color in a temporary selection.
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PaulChaps
Mar 4, 2004
Sorry for any confusion. As I mentioned in the new post, my objective is to change a white area into a blue area.

Paul
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John_Slate
Mar 4, 2004
What new post?

Anyway, it is frowned-on to add more than 1 post on the same issue.

Paul…

Try my suggestion in #2:

If your image layer is a background convert it to a normal layer by double clicking on it in the layers palette.

Add a new layer under that and fill with the color you want to put in the white areas.

Back on the image layer go into layer options, and on the "this layer" blend if slider, split the 2 white triangles on the right using the Alt key, and pull one to the left until the amount of white you want replaced is replaced.

Or try my suggestion in #4:

You could also try select>color range and sample the white, and play with fuzziness, then fill the resulting selection with any color you want.
AC
Aaron_Cramer
Mar 4, 2004
You can use white in selective color, as a matter of fact, white is one of the colors that can be selected. I have done it many times. Make sure you are on the right layer, make sure you have layer effects off, and use selective color, selected "White" from the drop down menu.
AC
Aaron_Cramer
Mar 4, 2004
BTW make sure you select Absolute at the bottom of the selective color menu, not Relative.

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