Saturation is higher when viewing images in CS2…

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Sep 18, 2006
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Hey, all.

I recently pulled a bunch of RAWs from my camera, made the adjustments I needed, and then saved them as 16bpp TIFF.

I then exited PS, and went to browse the images with an older version of ACDSee. The saturation in the images was way off. It was so bad I had to go back into PS, and increase the saturation to +30 so that it would look ‘normal’ when viewing outside of PS.

I’d like to not have to do this, but I’m not clear on what would be causing this discrepancy. I have not made use of any color profiles for anything, so I would *think* that PS would behave the same as any other app, in terms of the colors that it displays.

Can someone suggest what might be at work here?

Thanks for all suggestions…

BD

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Roy G
Sep 18, 2006
"BD" wrote in message
Hey, all.

I recently pulled a bunch of RAWs from my camera, made the adjustments I needed, and then saved them as 16bpp TIFF.

I then exited PS, and went to browse the images with an older version of ACDSee. The saturation in the images was way off. It was so bad I had to go back into PS, and increase the saturation to +30 so that it would look ‘normal’ when viewing outside of PS.

I’d like to not have to do this, but I’m not clear on what would be causing this discrepancy. I have not made use of any color profiles for anything, so I would *think* that PS would behave the same as any other app, in terms of the colors that it displays.

Can someone suggest what might be at work here?

Thanks for all suggestions…

BD

Hi.

Elementary, my dear BD.

Ps uses Colour Management, AcDSee does not.

The files will have been Tagged with the Adobe RGB Profile, which means that when viewed in any non Colour Managed Viewer, they will show up as undersaturated.

Open them in Ps, Edit > Convert Profile and choose sRGB, then save and close.

When making the conversions from RAW ensure that the profile selected is sRGB.

If you intend printing them on your own Inkjet, you would get a bit better range of colours (Gamut) if you kept them as Adobe RGB and used Colour Management while printing.
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BD
Sep 18, 2006
Elementary, my dear BD.

Yes, I just had a discussion with a co-worker about it, and we arrived at the same conclusion.

I’ll have to educate myself on such stuff… Ideally I’d like the saturation of the images to not be dependent on what application is viewing them. Hopefully the conversion to sRGB will assist in that regard. I’ll find out tonight! 😉

Thanks!
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Jim
Sep 18, 2006
"BD" wrote in message
Elementary, my dear BD.

Yes, I just had a discussion with a co-worker about it, and we arrived at the same conclusion.

I’ll have to educate myself on such stuff… Ideally I’d like the saturation of the images to not be dependent on what application is viewing them. Hopefully the conversion to sRGB will assist in that regard. I’ll find out tonight! 😉

Thanks!
That isn’t possible. So many programs are not color managed; with these it is pot luck at getting good colors. As PS is color managed (and that is one of its strengths), it would seem that you should always view your images in PS.

Jim
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BD
Sep 18, 2006
would seem that you should always view your images in PS.

So… if someone is doing work for another person (say contract work, for example), and isn’t sure whether the recipient will be viewing the images in Photoshop or some other app, what’s the best strategy? Seems to me I should make the color profile of the images as ‘ubiquitous’ or generic as possible, so I would want to remove any profiling which will impose a dependence on viewing the images in PS.
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Mike Russell
Sep 18, 2006
"BD" wrote in message
would seem that you should always view your images in PS.

So… if someone is doing work for another person (say contract work, for example), and isn’t sure whether the recipient will be viewing the images in Photoshop or some other app, what’s the best strategy? Seems to me I should make the color profile of the images as ‘ubiquitous’ or generic as possible, so I would want to remove any profiling which will impose a dependence on viewing the images in PS.

One good solution is not to use Adobe RGB. Distribute all your external RGB images as sRGB.

Mike Russell
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Roy G
Sep 18, 2006
"BD" wrote in message
would seem that you should always view your images in PS.

So… if someone is doing work for another person (say contract work, for example), and isn’t sure whether the recipient will be viewing the images in Photoshop or some other app, what’s the best strategy? Seems to me I should make the color profile of the images as ‘ubiquitous’ or generic as possible, so I would want to remove any profiling which will impose a dependence on viewing the images in PS.

Hi again.

The whole point of Colour Management, is to ensure that when images are passed from one C.M computer system to another CM System, the colours shown on screen, or printed out, will be the same.

With non CM systems the colours can, and do, vary quite considerably. Just have a look at the colours being shown on screens in any large Computer Store.

Roy G
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BD
Sep 19, 2006
One good solution is not to use Adobe RGB. Distribute all your external RGB images as sRGB.

Yes, this seems to have worked fine. After figuring out (finally, for the first time) how to record actions, I flipped the color space of all the relevant images. They look waaaay better now. 😉

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