Spinning a web

"David" wrote in message

Can anyone suggest how I might be able to create a spider’s web in PS 7? Nothing too elaborate needed, it’s for a kids invitation.

Tell me you are trolling please…

Stephane

Can anyone suggest how I might be able to create a spider’s web in PS 7? Nothing too elaborate needed, it’s for a kids invitation.

Tell me you are trolling please…

Stephane

I don’t know if I am since I have no idea what "trolling" means. Is there an English translation for the term?

David

I just worked out how to do it… Does this mean I’ll never know what "trolling"is?

David

Can anyone suggest how I might be able to create a spider’s web in PS 7? Nothing too elaborate needed, it’s for a kids invitation.

Tell me you are trolling please…

Stephane

I don’t know if I am since I have no idea what "trolling" means. Is there an English translation for the term?

David

David wrote:

I just worked out how to do it… Does this mean I’ll never know what "trolling"is?

Trolling: posting a message to Usenet to elicit a strong response.

In your case, your question is every bit like a blond woman who cannot figure out how to get her new jaguar out of first gear …

You have the finest commercial program for image editing, and it’s not cheap. Somehow you haven’t figured out first gear.

What are we going to do with you? 🙂

The Doormouse

—
The Doormouse cannot be reached by e-mail without her permission.

LOL! avoid the product for offensive marketing?

A boycott?

articus

"The Doormouse" wrote in message

David wrote:

I just worked out how to do it… Does this mean I’ll never know what "trolling"is?

Trolling: posting a message to Usenet to elicit a strong response.
In your case, your question is every bit like a blond woman who cannot figure out how to get her new jaguar out of first gear …
You have the finest commercial program for image editing, and it’s not cheap. Somehow you haven’t figured out first gear.

What are we going to do with you? 🙂

The Doormouse

—
The Doormouse cannot be reached by e-mail without her permission.

On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 23:59:54 GMT, The Doormouse
wrote:

David wrote:

I just worked out how to do it… Does this mean I’ll never know what "trolling"is?

Trolling: posting a message to Usenet to elicit a strong response.
In your case, your question is every bit like a blond woman who cannot figure out how to get her new jaguar out of first gear …
You have the finest commercial program for image editing, and it’s not cheap. Somehow you haven’t figured out first gear.

Thank you for the explanation. I have always envied people who are born knowing everything. As for the cost? It’s all relative, if you have to ask you can’t afford it.

David

in article , David at
wrote on 09/03/2004 6:16 PM:

I have always envied people who are
born knowing everything.

You are not telling the truth. Who you really envy are people that can get away with knowing almost nothing, that is what you really want to do.

in article , David at
wrote on 09/03/2004 6:16 PM:

I have always envied people who are
born knowing everything.

Next time trying learning something on your own, the knowledge will stay with you longer.

—
Mike

* Logo Design *
Put some fun in your next logo!

Site at: http://www.artistmike.com

David wrote:

Thank you for the explanation. I have always envied people who are born knowing everything. As for the cost? It’s all relative, if you have to ask you can’t afford it.

Pretty much anyone who really has to have this program can afford it – artists, students, designers and print professionals.

You would not believe what I know about you from your response, so do not think that I am being egotistical or gloating.

Whatever. i waste time.

The Doormouse

—
The Doormouse cannot be reached by e-mail without her permission.

Mike wrote:

You are not telling the truth. Who you really envy are people that can get away with knowing almost nothing, that is what you really want to do.

YES! That was perfect! 🙂

The Doormouse

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The Doormouse cannot be reached by e-mail without her permission.

"Mike" wrote in message

in article , David at
wrote on 09/03/2004 6:16 PM:

I have always envied people who are
born knowing everything.

Next time trying learning something on your own, the knowledge will stay with you longer.

—
Mike

* Logo Design *
Put some fun in your next logo!

Site at: http://www.artistmike.com

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mike’s back!

🙂

Cheers,

JJ

On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 14:12:23 -0700, David
wrote:

Can anyone suggest how I might be able to create a spider’s web in PS 7? Nothing too elaborate needed, it’s for a kids invitation.

See http://www.ransen.com/repligator/spider.htm

Unique and easy to use graphics programs
http://www.ransen.com

in article
wrote on 09/04/2004 1:53 AM:

"Mike" wrote in message

in article , David at
wrote on 09/03/2004 6:16 PM:

I have always envied people who are
born knowing everything.

Next time trying learning something on your own, the knowledge will stay with you longer.

—
Mike

* Logo Design *
Put some fun in your next logo!

Site at: http://www.artistmike.com

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mike’s back!

🙂

Cheers,

JJ

"He" is never far away. "He" is always with you.

ok ok ok

I’ll bite the bullet

ooh wouldn’t it be lovely if there was such a program

I wonder if there is?

oooh and if there is I wonder what it is called and maybe even how much it costs?

I wonder if there are academic licences too?

Can any1 help?

David – please ooo help me in my dilemma

Articus

"David" wrote in message

Can anyone suggest how I might be able to create a spider’s web in PS 7? Nothing too elaborate needed, it’s for a kids invitation.
Thanks,

David

On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 20:52:16 -0700, Mike wrote:

in article , David at
wrote on 09/03/2004 6:16 PM:

I have always envied people who are
born knowing everything.

Next time trying learning something on your own, the knowledge will stay with you longer.

Thank you for your input. If you read the thread you’ll see that’s exactly what I did. But thank you for pointing it out.

David

On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 10:56:02 -0700, TheOne wrote:

"He" is never far away. "He" is always with you.

You got competition. Apparently the Republicrats are marketing Bush as "The One"…

(NB My spell checker tried to turn Republicrats into Republic Rats) —

Hecate – The Real One

veni, vidi, reliqui

"Hecate" wrote in message

On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 10:56:02 -0700, TheOne wrote:

"He" is never far away. "He" is always with you.

You got competition. Apparently the Republicrats are marketing Bush as "The One"…

He is The One … to be sent back to his cows in Texas

(NB My spell checker tried to turn Republicrats into Republic Rats)

Your spell check is very smart

Stephan

in article , David at
wrote on 09/04/2004 4:02 PM:

Next time trying learning something on your own, the knowledge will stay with you longer.

Thank you for your input. If you read the thread you’ll see that’s exactly what I did. But thank you for pointing it out.

David

That is NOT what you did, what you attempted to do was ask someone to tell you how to do it, you did NOT attempt to do it yourself.

"Stephan" wrote in news:nCx_c.30575$Qa4.14477 @twister.socal.rr.com:

He is The One … to be sent back to his cows in Texas

Looks like he would be in four years if the election were held today… that is unless Bush supporters succeed at what Clinton supporters tried to do and the states voted to change the constitution to allow a 3rd term. I cant wait to see how people who were ecstatic about the idea in 1999 will be appalled by it in 2007… and vice versa.

The more things change…… ;o)

TheOne wrote in news:BD6058B9.12302A%:

in article , David at
wrote on 09/04/2004 4:02 PM:

Next time trying learning something on your own, the knowledge will stay with you longer.

Thank you for your input. If you read the thread you’ll see that’s exactly what I did. But thank you for pointing it out.

David

That is NOT what you did, what you attempted to do was ask someone to tell you how to do it, you did NOT attempt to do it yourself.

Oh people… since when did newsgroups become places where people are forbidden from asking simple questions without the usual RTFM responses, or worse?

Someone posting a question does not mean that person must be sitting at the computer doing nothing but staring at the screen checking for new posts for a response. Could it be that people can actually do more than one thing at a time and post a question, search the web, chat with people, read an online book/tutorial, and yes do some experimentation as well? Here comes a shocker… people can do all of it.

Anyways… to everyone here that takes the time to give a helpful opinion, quick pointers on what to do/try, or a simple web link, people who ask a question once in a while thank you.

in article , Theo at
wrote on 09/05/2004 10:37 AM:

That is NOT what you did, what you attempted to do was ask someone to tell you how to do it, you did NOT attempt to do it yourself.

Oh people… since when did newsgroups become places where people are forbidden from asking simple questions without the usual RTFM responses, or worse?

Oh Theo, since when did this newsgroup become a reference source for people that are too lazy to find the answers to their own questions, or worse?

TheOne wrote in news:BD609DD2.12311E%:

Oh people… since when did newsgroups become places where people are forbidden from asking simple questions without the usual RTFM responses, or worse?

Oh Theo, since when did this newsgroup become a reference source for people that are too lazy to find the answers to their own questions, or worse?

Thats an asumption. I ask questions (not so much here as in other groups), and at times answer others when I have one. That doesnt mean I dont try to work it out on my own as well. Newsgroups are an additional resource for people to use. Nothing more. Nothing less. I cant imagine a newsgroup being just a place for now-it-alls to talk about how they know everything ;o)

Reminds me of a Red Dwarf episode where Rimmer is asked what he could possibly talk about with his holo-clone (or whatever they called him), since they are exact duplicates and know the exact same things. What do

Fairly tho, there are always people as you describe. But wouldnt it be more courtious to give people the benefit of the doubt that they are also working to figure it out via other means?

Theo wrote in news:Xns955B72BCC6DAAdensnews123@
216.168.3.44:

Reminds me of a Red Dwarf episode where Rimmer is asked what he could possibly talk about with his holo-clone (or whatever they called him), since they are exact duplicates and know the exact same things. What do

ooops, got cut off. redo

Reminds me of a Red Dwarf episode where Rimmer is asked what he could possibly talk about with his holo-clone (or whatever they called him), since they are exact duplicates and know the exact same things. When asked what they talk about, the answer was that they reminice about old times.

I usually take bisodol

Articus

"Theo" wrote in message

Theo wrote in news:Xns955B72BCC6DAAdensnews123@
216.168.3.44:

Reminds me of a Red Dwarf episode where Rimmer is asked what he could possibly talk about with his holo-clone (or whatever they called him), since they are exact duplicates and know the exact same things. What do

ooops, got cut off. redo

Reminds me of a Red Dwarf episode where Rimmer is asked what he could possibly talk about with his holo-clone (or whatever they called him), since they are exact duplicates and know the exact same things. When asked what they talk about, the answer was that they reminice about old times.

Theo,
Actually, there is only one or two of these ng bullies, using a few id’s. Jousting with their gobble-de-gook just feeds them.
Please don’t feed the Red Dwarfs.

"Theo" wrote in message

TheOne wrote in news:BD6058B9.12302A%:

in article , David at
wrote on 09/04/2004 4:02 PM:

Next time trying learning something on your own, the knowledge will stay with you longer.

Thank you for your input. If you read the thread you’ll see that’s exactly what I did. But thank you for pointing it out.

David

That is NOT what you did, what you attempted to do was ask someone to tell you how to do it, you did NOT attempt to do it yourself.

Oh people… since when did newsgroups become places where people are forbidden from asking simple questions without the usual RTFM responses, or worse?

Someone posting a question does not mean that person must be sitting at the computer doing nothing but staring at the screen checking for new posts for a response. Could it be that people can actually do more than one thing at a time and post a question, search the web, chat with people, read an online book/tutorial, and yes do some experimentation as well? Here comes a shocker… people can do all of it.

Anyways… to everyone here that takes the time to give a helpful opinion, quick pointers on what to do/try, or a simple web link, people who ask a question once in a while thank you.

On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 05:46:33 -0700, TheOne wrote:

in article , David at
wrote on 09/04/2004 4:02 PM:

Next time trying learning something on your own, the knowledge will stay with you longer.

Thank you for your input. If you read the thread you’ll see that’s exactly what I did. But thank you for pointing it out.

David

That is NOT what you did, what you attempted to do was ask someone to tell you how to do it, you did NOT attempt to do it yourself.

That is called being intelligent. Learning from people who have more experience. It saves times and repeated mistakes.

Unique and easy to use graphics programs
http://www.ransen.com

in article , Theo at
wrote on 09/05/2004 11:16 AM:

TheOne wrote in news:BD609DD2.12311E%:

Oh people… since when did newsgroups become places where people are forbidden from asking simple questions without the usual RTFM responses, or worse?

Oh Theo, since when did this newsgroup become a reference source for people that are too lazy to find the answers to their own questions, or worse?

Thats an asumption. Newsgroups are an additional resource for people to use.

You don’t get to decide how people use newsgroups. Each person decides how they will use the newsgroup. There is no "One Use" for a newsgroup.

I cant imagine a newsgroup being
just a place for now-it-alls to talk about how they know everything.

Your lack of imagination is irrelevant.

in article , Watashee at
watashee@{delete}one.net wrote on 09/05/2004 8:57 PM:

Theo,
Actually, there is only one or two of these ng bullies…

Bully tactics don’t work in newsgroups. You really don’t know how newsgroups work, do you.

TheOne wrote in news:BD6139EA.123582%:

Thats an asumption. Newsgroups are an additional resource for people to use.

You don’t get to decide how people use newsgroups. Each person decides how they will use the newsgroup. There is no "One Use" for a newsgroup.

of course. and those trying to make such decisions for others by taking the position that people shouldnt post questions are wrong. wouldnt you agree?

"Watashee" <watashee@{delete}one.net> wrote in news::

Theo,
Actually, there is only one or two of these ng bullies, using a few id’s. Jousting with their gobble-de-gook just feeds them.
Please don’t feed the Red Dwarfs.

True, but then I again I am only providing the rope. What people do with it is their own problem ;o)

in article , O Ransen at
wrote on 09/05/2004 9:10 PM:

On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 05:46:33 -0700, TheOne wrote:

in article , David at
wrote on 09/04/2004 4:02 PM:

Next time trying learning something on your own, the knowledge will stay with you longer.

Thank you for your input. If you read the thread you’ll see that’s exactly what I did. But thank you for pointing it out.

David

That is NOT what you did, what you attempted to do was ask someone to tell you how to do it, you did NOT attempt to do it yourself.

That is called being intelligent.

It is called attempting to get other people to tell you how to do something because you don’t want to take the time to figure it out yourself. I suggested that if he did his own work — the work of finding out how to do it — that the knowledge gained would stay with him longer and be more "internalized" as his own.

It saves times and repeated mistakes.

Mistakes are valuable also, and time is just part of the price.

in article , Theo at
wrote on 09/05/2004 10:58 PM:

by taking the
position that people shouldnt post questions are wrong.

Once again, you don’t get to decide what is "wrong" or "right" for people to do in a newsgroup. You only get to decide what YOU are going to do. That’s it.

You really have a hard time with the idea that everyone gets to decide how they will use the newsgroup.

in article , Theo at
wrote on 09/05/2004 10:59 PM:

"Watashee" <watashee@{delete}one.net> wrote in news::

Theo,
Actually, there is only one or two of these ng bullies, using a few id’s. Jousting with their gobble-de-gook just feeds them.
Please don’t feed the Red Dwarfs.

True, but then I again I am only providing the rope. What people do with it is their own problem ;o)

No one is being "hung" here. There is no "rope" that you are in charge of giving out. I write as I wish and there is not a damn thing you can do about it. You can’t make it last one second longer than I wish it to, or you can’t shorten it by one second.

So obviously your "rope" is irrelevant.

You are only trying to take credit for something that you have no control over.

On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 23:01:35 -0700, TheOne wrote:

That is called being intelligent.

It is called attempting to get other people to tell you how to do something because you don’t want to take the time to figure it out yourself.

Well, I’m glad someone let me on in the secrets of

reading
writing
counting
doing arithmetic
programming
driving a car
using photoshop

because otherwise I would not be able to do any of
them! Maybe I am thick. Maybe I could have learned
to read without any outside help, but that is only
one of my limits.

By the way did *you* learn to do all the above mentioned things without a teacher? Did you never ask any questions?

Unique and easy to use graphics programs
http://www.ransen.com

TheOne wrote in news:BD614E46.1236B1%:

Once again, you don’t get to decide what is "wrong" or "right" for people to do in a newsgroup. You only get to decide what YOU are going to do. That’s it.

that must mean that you dont agree

in article , O Ransen at
wrote on 09/06/2004 9:05 AM:

On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 23:01:35 -0700, TheOne wrote:

That is called being intelligent.

It is called attempting to get other people to tell you how to do something because you don’t want to take the time to figure it out yourself.

Well, I’m glad someone let me on in the secrets of

reading
writing
counting
doing arithmetic
programming
driving a car
using photoshop

because otherwise I would not be able to do any of
them! Maybe I am thick. Maybe I could have learned
to read without any outside help, but that is only
one of my limits.

By the way did *you* learn to do all the above mentioned things without a teacher? Did you never ask any questions?

Some people learn by doing, some people learn by watching, some people learn by reading. How you learn is not universal to everyone.

Try and "learn" that.

in article , Theo at
wrote on 09/06/2004 9:20 AM:

TheOne wrote in news:BD614E46.1236B1%:

Once again, you don’t get to decide what is "wrong" or "right" for people to do in a newsgroup. You only get to decide what YOU are going to do. That’s it.

that must mean that you dont agree

Your lack of understanding is also not my problem.

"Theo" wrote in message

"Watashee" <watashee@{delete}one.net> wrote in news::

Theo,
Actually, there is only one or two of these ng bullies, using a few

id’s.

Jousting with their gobble-de-gook just feeds them.
Please don’t feed the Red Dwarfs.

True, but then I again I am only providing the rope. What people do with

it

is their own problem ;o)

That is exactly what he (the one AKA mike the artist loser) says. Think about it.

Stephan

in article O03%c.33836$, Stephan at
wrote on 09/06/2004 12:38 PM:

"Theo" wrote in message

"Watashee" <watashee@{delete}one.net> wrote in news::

Theo,
Actually, there is only one or two of these ng bullies, using a few

id’s.

Jousting with their gobble-de-gook just feeds them.
Please don’t feed the Red Dwarfs.

True, but then I again I am only providing the rope. What people do with

it

is their own problem ;o)

That is exactly what he (the one AKA mike the artist loser) says. Think about it.

Stephan

I don’t mind playing with my rope, as long as other people play with their own. It is when they try and tell me how to play with my "rope" that turns it into a fun game.

On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 13:04:34 -0700, TheOne wrote:

in article O03%c.33836$, Stephan at
wrote on 09/06/2004 12:38 PM:

"Theo" wrote in message

"Watashee" <watashee@{delete}one.net> wrote in news::

Theo,
Actually, there is only one or two of these ng bullies, using a few

id’s.

Jousting with their gobble-de-gook just feeds them.
Please don’t feed the Red Dwarfs.

True, but then I again I am only providing the rope. What people do with

it

is their own problem ;o)

That is exactly what he (the one AKA mike the artist loser) says. Think about it.

Stephan

I don’t mind playing with my rope, as long as other people play with their own. It is when they try and tell me how to play with my "rope" that turns it into a fun game.

Just don’t play with it too much…you’ll go blind.

TheOne wrote in news:BD61F193.1237C3%:

that must mean that you dont agree

Your lack of understanding is also not my problem.

Then why respond?

TheOne wrote in news:BD61F167.1237C2%:

Some people learn by doing, some people learn by watching, some people learn by reading. How you learn is not universal to everyone.
Try and "learn" that.

Some people learn by asking others. Or does that not count?

"Theo" wrote in message

TheOne wrote in news:BD61F193.1237C3%:

that must mean that you dont agree

Your lack of understanding is also not my problem.

Then why respond?

As someone once responded, it’s his addiction.

in article , Theo at
wrote on 09/06/2004 6:54 PM:

TheOne wrote in news:BD61F193.1237C3%:

that must mean that you dont agree

Your lack of understanding is also not my problem.

Then why respond?

Because I enjoy playing with goofballs like you.

in article , Theo at
wrote on 09/06/2004 6:56 PM:

TheOne wrote in news:BD61F167.1237C2%:

Some people learn by doing, some people learn by watching, some people learn by reading. How you learn is not universal to everyone.
Try and "learn" that.

Some people learn by asking others. Or does that not count?

You are free to ask, but no one is obligated to tell you a damn thing. Did you forget?

hahahaha.

in article
wrote on 09/06/2004 7:07 PM:

"Theo" wrote in message

TheOne wrote in news:BD61F193.1237C3%:

that must mean that you dont agree

Your lack of understanding is also not my problem.

Then why respond?

As someone once responded, it’s his addiction.

I enjoy the game.

"Watashee" wrote in news:10jq5rtim584jb6
@corp.supernews.com:

Then why respond?

As someone once responded, it’s his addiction.

Now thats a shame. There are help groups nowdays.

in article , Theo at
wrote on 09/06/2004 10:15 PM:

"Watashee" wrote in news:10jq5rtim584jb6
@corp.supernews.com:

Then why respond?

As someone once responded, it’s his addiction.

Now thats a shame. There are help groups nowdays.

There are help groups for you also.

"-

On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 10:50:15 -0700, TheOne wrote:

in article , O Ransen at
wrote on 09/06/2004 9:05 AM:

Did you never ask any questions?

Some people learn by doing, some people learn by watching, some people learn by reading. How you learn is not universal to everyone.

So, you *never* asked questions?

Unique and easy to use graphics programs
http://www.ransen.com

HEY! Leave my deity alone

Get your own deity suckers!

Sheesh!

I do apologise Oh Mighty One

These merest of mortals really are rather mere in a mortal sort of way

Tsk! Earthlings – can’t take them anywhere

I really don’t know what the universe is coming to.

Articus

"Watashee" wrote in message

"-

Ah Master – Oh Mighty Masterful One

I see you have been introduced to the whining one

Listen …..

Articus

"TheOne" wrote in message

in article O03%c.33836$, Stephan at
wrote on 09/06/2004 12:38 PM:

"Theo" wrote in message

"Watashee" <watashee@{delete}one.net> wrote in news::

Theo,
Actually, there is only one or two of these ng bullies, using a few

id’s.

Jousting with their gobble-de-gook just feeds them.
Please don’t feed the Red Dwarfs.

True, but then I again I am only providing the rope. What people do with

it

is their own problem ;o)

That is exactly what he (the one AKA mike the artist loser) says. Think about it.

Stephan

I don’t mind playing with my rope, as long as other people play with their own. It is when they try and tell me how to play with my "rope" that turns
it into a fun game.

in article , O Ransen at
wrote on 09/07/2004 7:21 AM:

On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 10:50:15 -0700, TheOne wrote:

in article , O Ransen at
wrote on 09/06/2004 9:05 AM:

Did you never ask any questions?

Some people learn by doing, some people learn by watching, some people learn by reading. How you learn is not universal to everyone.

So, you *never* asked questions?

I don’t ask them of goofy people in newsgroups with the expectation of getting anything of value.

"Watashee" wrote in
news::

LMAO, isn’t this a help group?

hehe, best point of this whole thread ;o)

TheOne wrote in news:BD632E7C.123C64%:

I don’t ask them of goofy people in newsgroups with the expectation of getting anything of value.

Yet you are here, coresponding with these same ‘goofy’ people? Or reading their past posts where they *gasp* respond to questions? Nah that would be to simple.

"O Ransen" wrote in message

On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 10:50:15 -0700, TheOne wrote:

in article , O Ransen at
wrote on 09/06/2004 9:05 AM:

Did you never ask any questions?

Some people learn by doing, some people learn by watching, some people

learn

by reading. How you learn is not universal to everyone.

So, you *never* asked questions?

He asks the same question every night before falling asleep: How come nobody likes me?
S

in article , Theo at
wrote on 09/07/2004 9:45 AM:

TheOne wrote in news:BD632E7C.123C64%:

I don’t ask them of goofy people in newsgroups with the expectation of getting anything of value.

Yet you are here, coresponding with these same ‘goofy’ people?

Goofy people like you are fun, but I expect to get nothing of value from the interaction.

in article kWm%c.33990$, Stephan at
wrote on 09/07/2004 11:16 AM:

How come
nobody likes me?

Because you are too goofy.

welll it soitinly helps mee Stanley!

Articus

"Theo" wrote in message

"Watashee" wrote in
news::

LMAO, isn’t this a help group?

hehe, best point of this whole thread ;o)