Printing 8×10

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Mike
Sep 12, 2004
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Hello all,

A rookie question so please bear with me.

I had taken a picture with my 5MP camera and decided I wanted a nice 8×10 of it. I used Scott Kelby’s tips about resizing and maintaining quality within photoshop (turning off "resample Image" and increasing resolution)and resized my photo to actual size 7.4" x 9.9". Happy that I had a nice quality pic that would fit comfortably in an 8×10, I put the picture on a CD and took it into my local camera shop. I put the CD in the machine and selected 8×10 but when I previewed the picture it was obvious that the machine was unable to fit the entire picture in an 8×10. It was like the picture I had was larger than 8×10. I eventually had to ask them to take the picture and create a "fit to size" picture and I ended up with a beautiful 8×12. So I am confused and obviously misunderstand something here but can anybody tell me why I was unable to squeeze it into 8×10?

Thanks

Mike

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arrooke
Sep 12, 2004
Hello all,

A rookie question so please bear with me.

I had taken a picture with my 5MP camera and decided I wanted a nice 8×10 of it. I used Scott Kelby’s tips about resizing and maintaining quality within photoshop (turning off "resample Image" and increasing resolution)and resized my photo to actual size 7.4" x 9.9". Happy that I had a nice quality pic that would fit comfortably in an 8×10, I put the picture on a CD and took it into my local camera shop. I put the CD in the machine and selected 8×10 but when I previewed the picture it was obvious that the machine was unable to fit the entire picture in an 8×10. It was like the picture I had was larger than 8×10. I eventually had to ask them to take the picture and create a "fit to size" picture and I ended up with a beautiful 8×12. So I am confused and obviously misunderstand something here but can anybody tell me why I was unable to squeeze it into 8×10?

Thanks

Mike

I’ve never used one of those machines but when you said your image sized to
9.9" I would suspect that the printer needs a margin and your size fell
outside that margin area. 12" is probably the next size up. To test this theory you could wait for a reply from someone who knows what they speak of. Or you could size your image to less (say 9.6 or around there) and try again.
I take it the store employee was of little or no help – typical. Keith.
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Ryadia_
Sep 12, 2004
8×10 is a traditional size based on the traditional negative size of a traditional camera. Any derivative of 8×10, I.E. 4×5 or 2×2.5 is a traditional size. Some digital cameras adhere to this format, some don’t.

When 35mm was introduced to the still camera world, it used cheap and freely available 35mm movie film. This resulted in a frame size different from traditional negatives. It was well suited to landscape photos which most holiday shots of the time were. Anyway, any enlargement of a 35mm negative will result in dimensions outside the traditional area. It is closer to the size of a metric A4 page than an 8×10.

The fact that many digital cameras use traditional size sensors and all Digital SLRs and some compact digicams use the 35mm derived sensor size only goes to show what a bloody mess the camera manufacturers have made of traditional standards. There is no reason for digital makers to use a 35mm format except to conform to those who are moving from 35mm to digital.

When I first started using a digital SLR, I moved from medium format (traditional size). The only way I could shoot a portrait was to compose the shot with a lot of headroom and crop the picture to traditional size. I still do that because a true portrait does not easily fit a landscape frame!

Ryadia
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"Mike" wrote in message
Hello all,

A rookie question so please bear with me.

I had taken a picture with my 5MP camera and decided I wanted a nice 8×10 of it. I used Scott Kelby’s tips about resizing and maintaining quality within photoshop (turning off "resample Image" and increasing resolution)and resized my photo to actual size 7.4" x 9.9". Happy that I had a nice quality pic that would fit comfortably in an 8×10, I put the picture on a CD and took it into my local camera shop. I put the CD in the machine and selected 8×10 but when I previewed the picture it was obvious that the machine was unable to fit the entire picture in an 8×10. It was like the picture I had was larger than 8×10. I eventually had to ask them to take the picture and create a "fit to size" picture and I ended up with a beautiful 8×12. So I am confused and obviously misunderstand something here but can anybody tell me why I was unable to squeeze it into 8×10?

Thanks

Mike
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Aki Ahonen
Sep 12, 2004
which digilab do they use in that shop? because most of them doesn’t understand a bit about print size adjustments made whitout resizing the image itself. find out what resolution does their printer use, and if they tell it, resize your images to fit the paper and to that ppi that they use.

–Aki Ahonen

"Mike" wrote in message
Hello all,

A rookie question so please bear with me.

I had taken a picture with my 5MP camera and decided I wanted a nice 8×10 of it. I used Scott Kelby’s tips about resizing and maintaining quality within photoshop (turning off "resample Image" and increasing resolution)and resized my photo to actual size 7.4" x 9.9". Happy that I had a nice quality pic that would fit comfortably in an 8×10, I put the picture on a CD and took it into my local camera shop. I put the CD in the machine and selected 8×10 but when I previewed the picture it was obvious that the machine was unable to fit the entire picture in an 8×10. It was like the picture I had was larger than 8×10. I eventually had to ask them to take the picture and create a "fit to size" picture and I ended up with a beautiful 8×12. So I am confused and obviously misunderstand something here but can anybody tell me why I was unable to squeeze it into 8×10?
Thanks

Mike
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Theo
Sep 12, 2004
"Ryadia_" wrote in
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The fact that many digital cameras use traditional size sensors and all Digital SLRs and some compact digicams use the 35mm derived sensor size only goes to show what a bloody mess the camera manufacturers have made of traditional standards. There is no reason for digital makers to use a 35mm format except to conform to those who are moving from 35mm to digital.

Except to conform with the most widely available paper made today used in a relatively new machine made for the masses… which is what the OP used.

As for slow changing of established formats, the same could be said for many things. Keep in mind DVRs, the newest video storage/playback device out there… and totally digital like the cameras. They still have to conform mainly to the very old 4:3 format in addition to being able to display widescreen (and HD) simply because most people dont have it yet.
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bagal
Sep 12, 2004
Hi Mike

I use a digital printshop – a photography shop, major retailer with what I consider to be value added service

The service is pretty good running a bespoke user interface to Fuji print equipment.

My humble 2MP (interpolated to 4MP point & shoot Fuji) prints to 15" by 10" purty darn well.

I tend to run with default settings and let the brains of the designers figure things out.

One thing I have noticed is that the digital print service over last few months has gone through a very steep and rapid learning curve. Apparently the demand has shocked everyone – or so I am told. People arriving at the shop and running 500 prints is not unusual – the consequence being a huge queue on the printer. Such, it seems, are the costs of success 🙂

Articus

"Mike" wrote in message
Hello all,

A rookie question so please bear with me.

I had taken a picture with my 5MP camera and decided I wanted a nice …
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Hecate
Sep 12, 2004
On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 22:06:28 +1000, "Ryadia_"
wrote:

When I first started using a digital SLR, I moved from medium format (traditional size). The only way I could shoot a portrait was to compose the shot with a lot of headroom and crop the picture to traditional size. I still do that because a true portrait does not easily fit a landscape frame!
I’m sure you didn’t mean it that way, but your comment makes it sound like you didn’t do the obvious – i.e. turn the camera through 90 deg.



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Stephan
Sep 13, 2004
"Hecate" wrote in message
On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 22:06:28 +1000, "Ryadia_"
wrote:

When I first started using a digital SLR, I moved from medium format (traditional size). The only way I could shoot a portrait was to compose
the
shot with a lot of headroom and crop the picture to traditional size. I still do that because a true portrait does not easily fit a landscape
frame!
I’m sure you didn’t mean it that way, but your comment makes it sound like you didn’t do the obvious – i.e. turn the camera through 90 deg.

ROTFL!

Stephan

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