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Hello to the group. I want to thank all of you for your thoughtful responses to my initial post regarding the books I was going to choose among for purchase. I have garnered some good info on the books I listed and a couple of new book choices. It occured to me that perhaps I hadn’t said enough about what level of photographer I am and what I shoot so this would make it tougher for you to know what to recommend. That is why I’m posting this new query which is on the same topic but with the following info on me.

I find I am not particularly intuitive about some of the PS concepts; the ones that are simple tools where you apply them and see what they do with the preview button I understand, such as applying the warming filters, gaussian blur, unsharp mask, dodge and burn, etc. However, although I understand the basic concept of layers I don’t work with them because I am not sure about how to work with them, although I have learned adjustment layers, but again that’s simpler to me than the overall layer use. So I’m looking for books that will be very clear and also detailed (i.e. not too much presuming) about the steps to take to use the more sophisticated tools and layer use. I probably don’t want to sit down and read a book straight through, but rather would like one with a good index so when I want to do a particular thing I can go right to it and focus on the matter at hand.

I’m strictly an amateur; don’t hope to exhibit anything but know and want good quality output. I come from decades of using 35mm Olympus gear-bodies and lenses; have had a wet b/w darkroom for decades; shoot scenics, animals (when I can find "em), birds, people (especially grandkids); don’t do any studio work; work only in RGB space; not into graphics, just photos; have cheap, 8.5 x 11, 4 color epson printer with separate Durabrite pigment ink tanks; looking to move to the epson 2200 or the new canon 9900 (I think that’s the number); have a canon G3 4MP point and shoot digital camera; looking to buy the canon 20D, 8 MP DSLR; recently bought the Minolta 5400 dpi dedicated 35mm film scanner.

OK-that’s enough about me. All of the foregoing should have been in my original post. I’m hoping that some of you will see this new post and weigh in again.

A refresher from my original post: I have the PS CS Bible, paperback version. I’m going to order PS CS Book for Digital Photographers-that’s definite. I want to buy 1 or 2 others, and my list contained the following:

Adobe PS CS Artistry
Real World Adobe PS CS by Fraser etc
PS Restoration and Retouching by Eismann
PS Color Correction by Kieran
PS CS Bible, hard cover ed.

OK-so what say you now?

Jim

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"outtasight" wrote in message
Hello to the group. I want to thank all of you for your thoughtful responses to my initial post regarding the books I was going to choose
among
for purchase. I have garnered some good info on the books I listed and a couple of new book choices. It occured to me that perhaps I hadn’t said enough about what level of photographer I am and what I shoot so this
would
make it tougher for you to know what to recommend. That is why I’m
posting
this new query which is on the same topic but with the following info on
me.
I find I am not particularly intuitive about some of the PS concepts; the ones that are simple tools where you apply them and see what they do with the preview button I understand, such as applying the warming filters, gaussian blur, unsharp mask, dodge and burn, etc. However, although I understand the basic concept of layers I don’t work with them because I am not sure about how to work with them, although I have learned adjustment layers, but again that’s simpler to me than the overall layer use. So I’m looking for books that will be very clear and also detailed (i.e. not too much presuming) about the steps to take to use the more sophisticated
tools
and layer use. I probably don’t want to sit down and read a book straight through, but rather would like one with a good index so when I want to do
a
particular thing I can go right to it and focus on the matter at hand.
I’m strictly an amateur; don’t hope to exhibit anything but know and want good quality output. I come from decades of using 35mm Olympus
gear-bodies
and lenses; have had a wet b/w darkroom for decades; shoot scenics,
animals
(when I can find "em), birds, people (especially grandkids); don’t do any studio work; work only in RGB space; not into graphics, just photos; have cheap, 8.5 x 11, 4 color epson printer with separate Durabrite pigment ink tanks; looking to move to the epson 2200 or the new canon 9900 (I think that’s the number); have a canon G3 4MP point and shoot digital camera; looking to buy the canon 20D, 8 MP DSLR; recently bought the Minolta 5400 dpi dedicated 35mm film scanner.

OK-that’s enough about me. All of the foregoing should have been in my original post. I’m hoping that some of you will see this new post and
weigh
in again.

A refresher from my original post: I have the PS CS Bible, paperback version. I’m going to order PS CS Book for Digital Photographers-that’s definite. I want to buy 1 or 2 others, and my list contained the
following:
Adobe PS CS Artistry
Real World Adobe PS CS by Fraser etc
PS Restoration and Retouching by Eismann
PS Color Correction by Kieran
PS CS Bible, hard cover ed.

OK-so what say you now?

Jim

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Hecate
Sep 15, 2004
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 19:20:39 GMT, "outtasight" wrote:

OK-so what say you now?

Jim
The same thing I said before:

Adobe PS CS Artistry

Very good teaching book

Real World Adobe PS CS by Fraser etc

Good

PS Restoration and Retouching by Eismann

Absolutely excellent

PS Color Correction by Kieran

Never heard of it

PS CS Bible, hard cover ed.

The Adobe manual rewritten in colour



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Peter May
Sep 15, 2004
outtasight wrote:
Hello to the group. I want to thank all of you for your thoughtful responses to my initial post regarding the books I was going to choose among for purchase. I have garnered some good info on the books I listed and a couple of new book choices. It occured to me that perhaps I hadn’t said enough about what level of photographer I am and what I shoot so this would make it tougher for you to know what to recommend. That is why I’m posting this new query which is on the same topic but with the following info on me.
I find I am not particularly intuitive about some of the PS concepts; the ones that are simple tools where you apply them and see what they do with the preview button I understand, such as applying the warming filters, gaussian blur, unsharp mask, dodge and burn, etc. However, although I understand the basic concept of layers I don’t work with them because I am not sure about how to work with them, although I have learned adjustment layers, but again that’s simpler to me than the overall layer use. So I’m looking for books that will be very clear and also detailed (i.e. not too much presuming) about the steps to take to use the more sophisticated tools and layer use. I probably don’t want to sit down and read a book straight through, but rather would like one with a good index so when I want to do a particular thing I can go right to it and focus on the matter at hand.
I’m strictly an amateur; don’t hope to exhibit anything but know and want good quality output. I come from decades of using 35mm Olympus gear-bodies and lenses; have had a wet b/w darkroom for decades; shoot scenics, animals (when I can find "em), birds, people (especially grandkids); don’t do any studio work; work only in RGB space; not into graphics, just photos; have cheap, 8.5 x 11, 4 color epson printer with separate Durabrite pigment ink tanks; looking to move to the epson 2200 or the new canon 9900 (I think that’s the number); have a canon G3 4MP point and shoot digital camera; looking to buy the canon 20D, 8 MP DSLR; recently bought the Minolta 5400 dpi dedicated 35mm film scanner.

OK-that’s enough about me. All of the foregoing should have been in my original post. I’m hoping that some of you will see this new post and weigh in again.

A refresher from my original post: I have the PS CS Bible, paperback version. I’m going to order PS CS Book for Digital Photographers-that’s definite. I want to buy 1 or 2 others, and my list contained the following:
Adobe PS CS Artistry
Real World Adobe PS CS by Fraser etc
PS Restoration and Retouching by Eismann
PS Color Correction by Kieran
PS CS Bible, hard cover ed.

OK-so what say you now?

Jim
You may also wish to consider "The Photoshop Book for Digital Photographer" by Scott Kelby (Published by New Riders) @ $39.99 but I bought on Amazon for about half of that price!

It is particularly useful insofar as the chapter headings describe what it is you may wish to do i.e. "Instant red-eye removal", "Extracting people from their background", "Whitening teeth" etc., etc.

Whichever you buy, good luck!

Peter May
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outtasight
Sep 16, 2004
thanks Peter, I agree, but you must not have seen my reference just before the book list, the par. that starts with "A refresher …"-in there I say that I am going to buy that book for sure.

"Peter May" wrote in message
outtasight wrote:
Hello to the group. I want to thank all of you for your thoughtful responses to my initial post regarding the books I was going to choose
among
for purchase. I have garnered some good info on the books I listed and
a
couple of new book choices. It occured to me that perhaps I hadn’t said enough about what level of photographer I am and what I shoot so this
would
make it tougher for you to know what to recommend. That is why I’m
posting
this new query which is on the same topic but with the following info on
me.
I find I am not particularly intuitive about some of the PS concepts;
the
ones that are simple tools where you apply them and see what they do
with
the preview button I understand, such as applying the warming filters, gaussian blur, unsharp mask, dodge and burn, etc. However, although I understand the basic concept of layers I don’t work with them because I
am
not sure about how to work with them, although I have learned adjustment layers, but again that’s simpler to me than the overall layer use. So
I’m
looking for books that will be very clear and also detailed (i.e. not
too
much presuming) about the steps to take to use the more sophisticated
tools
and layer use. I probably don’t want to sit down and read a book
straight
through, but rather would like one with a good index so when I want to
do a
particular thing I can go right to it and focus on the matter at hand.
I’m strictly an amateur; don’t hope to exhibit anything but know and
want
good quality output. I come from decades of using 35mm Olympus
gear-bodies
and lenses; have had a wet b/w darkroom for decades; shoot scenics,
animals
(when I can find "em), birds, people (especially grandkids); don’t do
any
studio work; work only in RGB space; not into graphics, just photos;
have
cheap, 8.5 x 11, 4 color epson printer with separate Durabrite pigment
ink
tanks; looking to move to the epson 2200 or the new canon 9900 (I think that’s the number); have a canon G3 4MP point and shoot digital camera; looking to buy the canon 20D, 8 MP DSLR; recently bought the Minolta
5400
dpi dedicated 35mm film scanner.

OK-that’s enough about me. All of the foregoing should have been in my original post. I’m hoping that some of you will see this new post and
weigh
in again.

A refresher from my original post: I have the PS CS Bible, paperback version. I’m going to order PS CS Book for Digital Photographers-that’s definite. I want to buy 1 or 2 others, and my list contained the
following:
Adobe PS CS Artistry
Real World Adobe PS CS by Fraser etc
PS Restoration and Retouching by Eismann
PS Color Correction by Kieran
PS CS Bible, hard cover ed.

OK-so what say you now?

Jim
You may also wish to consider "The Photoshop Book for Digital Photographer" by Scott Kelby (Published by New Riders) @ $39.99 but I bought on Amazon for about half of that price!

It is particularly useful insofar as the chapter headings describe what it is you may wish to do i.e. "Instant red-eye removal", "Extracting people from their background", "Whitening teeth" etc., etc.
Whichever you buy, good luck!

Peter May
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outtasight
Sep 16, 2004
Just wanted to thank all of you for giving me great book ideas and comments. I’ve made my decision and am ready to order, thanks to you.

Jim

"outtasight" wrote in message
Hello to the group. I want to thank all of you for your thoughtful responses to my initial post regarding the books I was going to choose
among
for purchase. I have garnered some good info on the books I listed and a couple of new book choices. It occured to me that perhaps I hadn’t said enough about what level of photographer I am and what I shoot so this
would
make it tougher for you to know what to recommend. That is why I’m
posting
this new query which is on the same topic but with the following info on
me.
I find I am not particularly intuitive about some of the PS concepts; the ones that are simple tools where you apply them and see what they do with the preview button I understand, such as applying the warming filters, gaussian blur, unsharp mask, dodge and burn, etc. However, although I understand the basic concept of layers I don’t work with them because I am not sure about how to work with them, although I have learned adjustment layers, but again that’s simpler to me than the overall layer use. So I’m looking for books that will be very clear and also detailed (i.e. not too much presuming) about the steps to take to use the more sophisticated
tools
and layer use. I probably don’t want to sit down and read a book straight through, but rather would like one with a good index so when I want to do
a
particular thing I can go right to it and focus on the matter at hand.
I’m strictly an amateur; don’t hope to exhibit anything but know and want good quality output. I come from decades of using 35mm Olympus
gear-bodies
and lenses; have had a wet b/w darkroom for decades; shoot scenics,
animals
(when I can find "em), birds, people (especially grandkids); don’t do any studio work; work only in RGB space; not into graphics, just photos; have cheap, 8.5 x 11, 4 color epson printer with separate Durabrite pigment ink tanks; looking to move to the epson 2200 or the new canon 9900 (I think that’s the number); have a canon G3 4MP point and shoot digital camera; looking to buy the canon 20D, 8 MP DSLR; recently bought the Minolta 5400 dpi dedicated 35mm film scanner.

OK-that’s enough about me. All of the foregoing should have been in my original post. I’m hoping that some of you will see this new post and
weigh
in again.

A refresher from my original post: I have the PS CS Bible, paperback version. I’m going to order PS CS Book for Digital Photographers-that’s definite. I want to buy 1 or 2 others, and my list contained the
following:
Adobe PS CS Artistry
Real World Adobe PS CS by Fraser etc
PS Restoration and Retouching by Eismann
PS Color Correction by Kieran
PS CS Bible, hard cover ed.

OK-so what say you now?

Jim

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bookworm
Sep 17, 2004
Peter May wrote:

You may also wish to consider "The Photoshop Book for Digital Photographer" by Scott Kelby (Published by New Riders) @ $39.99 but I bought on Amazon for about half of that price!

It is particularly useful insofar as the chapter headings describe what it is you may wish to do i.e. "Instant red-eye removal", "Extracting people from their background", "Whitening teeth" etc., etc.
Whichever you buy, good luck!

Kelby’s book(s) does not even come close to the other recommendations. Don’t waste your money.

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