Text Is Too Small? *HELP PLEASE*

DD
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Dawn_Devlin
Apr 10, 2004
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Normally, Adobe works fine for me. (Photoshop 7.0) Except for a few occasions, where I would be typing in size 30 font, and then when I went to type again on my banner, the font would either be size 100 or size 10, randomly, getting bigger or smaller. Was wondering what causes that.. but also.. my main question is this;

Lately, when I type text, I have to put the size on the text to the MAXIMUM text which is like 1200 or something. And it’s STILL small! It looks as if the text is size 10 when I put it on 1200! Can someone please help me fix this problem?! 🙁

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Glenn_Gibson
Apr 10, 2004
Check your image size. Font size is relative to physical image size, so a 2" x 2" image at 2000dpi will need a different font size than a 200"x200" image at 20dpi even tho the pixel x pixel dimensions are the same. (4000x4000pixels)
DD
Dawn_Devlin
Apr 10, 2004
The image I’m using is like… width 800 by height 600 and it still does it.. Regardless of the size, I’ve tried smaller images and larger ones, and no matter what the text is still super tiny.
DD
Dawn_Devlin
Apr 10, 2004
Now, the text seems to work fine on every image that I try it out on, except for the one I Need it for! lol

For instance, I opened up a picture of me and was able to type Dawn on it in any font size I want, but when I opened up the banner I was working on, it would do the tiny font thing again.
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larry
Apr 10, 2004
Check your pixels per inch. If the two images are the same PPI, the font size should be identical.

Larry Berman
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dave_milbut
Apr 10, 2004
image> image size> pixels per inch (as larry sez). make sure it’s in the range of 72 (for screen/web) to 300 (for print).
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John_Slate
Apr 10, 2004
Font size in Photoshop relates to PRINT size and therefore directly to file resolution. When you set 12 point type, Photoshop makes it so that when it prints, it will be 12 points high. This is true whether or not your work is destined to ever be actually printed.

And the print size of anything will display on the screen at a variety of sizes depending on what zoom factor you are at.

You could have 5 different 500×500 pixel files open and displaying at 100% (1 file pixel per screen pixel), but have 5 different resolutions in these files, and then type 12 point type and you will see 5 different sizes.

As the files resolution increases, the size of 12 point type (at 100% zoom factor) also increases.

If the file rez is exceedingly low, like if you enter in a low value by mistake, but still have the pixel count you need for a web page, then that 12 point type will be very tiny.

Think about it this way: those 500 pixels viewed at 100% could be about 8 inches wide on your monitor, right?

If the file’s rez is 300ppi then that 8 inch length you are seeing would print out at only 1.667 inches wide, or in other words from a printing perspective, you are seeing a 480% enlargement of the printed image. At this magnified view 12 point will look like 57 point type.

If on the other hand the file’s rez is 72ppi, then those same 500 pixels viewed at 100% displaying at the same 8 inches wide on your monitor, now represent 6.94 inches printed, meaning you are viewing at much closer to printed size… only a 115% enlargement. 12 point type will only look like 13.8 point type.

Now let’s say that when you open up your 500×500 pixel file, you mess up and put in 7 instead of 72 in the resolution field. It can happen. The file opens up at 100% and everything seems normal as you work along until you set some type.

Now, those same 500 pixels viewed at 100% displaying at the same 8 inches wide on your monitor, now represent 71.43 inches printed, meaning you are viewing at a severely reduced size… only about 11% of printed size. 12 point type will only look like a little over 1 point high, and probably won’t even be legible at all even if you zoom on it in Photoshop.

Of course if Dawns file is not real low rez, she should probably reset/delete her preferences.
JS
John_Slate
Apr 10, 2004
If anybody is interested, here is a way to see printing same size in Photoshop:

Open a new file that is 500 pixels wide x 300 high.

It should open at “100%” (check navigator).

Carefully measure the width of the new file on your monitor in inches, and divide 500 by the number you measured. Take this new number and multiply by 100. Call this the monitor factor.

To determine the zoom factor you need to view any given file at printed same size, divide the monitor factor by the file’s resolution in pixels per inch.

Type this number into the navigator and bingo… you have print size. Of course this zoom factor may also induce down sampling errors vis-à-vis jaggies and moirés, so view at this size for reference only.

You can use any unit of measurement really, as long as you are consistent. Measure the screen in mm if you want, but then the file’s resolution in the formula must be in pixels/mm.
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Rene_Walling
Apr 11, 2004
Hum,

So why not use the display print size option in the view menu?
JS
John_Slate
Apr 11, 2004
Sorry, my version at home is too old to have that feature.

thanks for the info.
DM
dave_milbut
Apr 12, 2004
I wonder if dawn will ever be back to let us know what it was/is?

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