Using Adobe Gamma Utility

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Nov 8, 2004
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Hope someone can assist me with setting up an LCD Monitor using the Adobe Gamma Utility.

Equipment used is;
Hitachi CML 174SXWB LCD Monitor,
Epson R210 (R200) Printer,
Photoshop 7.

When attempting to calibrate the monitor using the Adobe Gamma Utility it asks that the contrast to be set to it’s highest level – then adjust the brightness until the inner square is just noticeable.

If I adjust the contrast to it’s highest level the screen is so bright that even adjusting the brightness level to zero, the screen is still too bright. Can’t even see the inner square in the black square no matter what adjustment I make.

I suspect that LCD monitors are brighter than a normal monitor? If so what is the procedure to take when using the Adobe Gamma Utility on a LCD monitor?

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nomail
Nov 8, 2004
John wrote:

Hope someone can assist me with setting up an LCD Monitor using the Adobe Gamma Utility.

Equipment used is;
Hitachi CML 174SXWB LCD Monitor,
Epson R210 (R200) Printer,
Photoshop 7.

When attempting to calibrate the monitor using the Adobe Gamma Utility it asks that the contrast to be set to it’s highest level – then adjust the brightness until the inner square is just noticeable.
If I adjust the contrast to it’s highest level the screen is so bright that even adjusting the brightness level to zero, the screen is still too bright. Can’t even see the inner square in the black square no matter what adjustment I make.

I suspect that LCD monitors are brighter than a normal monitor? If so what is the procedure to take when using the Adobe Gamma Utility on a LCD monitor?

I don’t think Adobe Gamma can be used with an LCD monitor.


Johan W. Elzenga johan<<at>>johanfoto.nl Editor / Photographer http://www.johanfoto.nl/
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neon
Nov 8, 2004
Johan W. Elzenga wrote:
John wrote:

Hope someone can assist me with setting up an LCD Monitor using the Adobe Gamma Utility.

Equipment used is;
Hitachi CML 174SXWB LCD Monitor,
Epson R210 (R200) Printer,
Photoshop 7.

When attempting to calibrate the monitor using the Adobe Gamma Utility it asks that the contrast to be set to it’s highest level – then adjust the brightness until the inner square is just noticeable.
If I adjust the contrast to it’s highest level the screen is so bright that even adjusting the brightness level to zero, the screen is still too bright. Can’t even see the inner square in the black square no matter what adjustment I make.

I suspect that LCD monitors are brighter than a normal monitor? If so what is the procedure to take when using the Adobe Gamma Utility on a LCD monitor?

I don’t think Adobe Gamma can be used with an LCD monitor.
Adobe Gamma does not support LCD monitors.
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tony
Nov 8, 2004
neon wrote:

Johan W. Elzenga wrote:
John wrote:

Hope someone can assist me with setting up an LCD Monitor using the Adobe Gamma Utility.

Equipment used is;
Hitachi CML 174SXWB LCD Monitor,
Epson R210 (R200) Printer,
Photoshop 7.

When attempting to calibrate the monitor using the Adobe Gamma Utility it asks that the contrast to be set to it’s highest level – then adjust the brightness until the inner square is just noticeable.
If I adjust the contrast to it’s highest level the screen is so bright that even adjusting the brightness level to zero, the screen is still too bright. Can’t even see the inner square in the black square no matter what adjustment I make.

I suspect that LCD monitors are brighter than a normal monitor? If so what is the procedure to take when using the Adobe Gamma Utility on a LCD monitor?

I don’t think Adobe Gamma can be used with an LCD monitor.
Adobe Gamma does not support LCD monitors.

I’m not sure why you say this. I use it with mine quite effectively.

The main problem with LCD Monitors is not so much Brightness but Contrast. They have much higher contrast than CRT displays, and I find I have to reduce contrast significantly to achieve a reasonable match between display and printer.

TH
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Waldo
Nov 8, 2004
I’m not sure why you say this. I use it with mine quite effectively.

I use it too, but a TFT cannot reproduce extremely dark colors very well, (black can’t be reproduced at all…)

Waldo
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John
Nov 8, 2004
On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 16:39:17 GMT, Tony H wrote:

neon wrote:

Johan W. Elzenga wrote:
John wrote:

Hope someone can assist me with setting up an LCD Monitor using the Adobe Gamma Utility.

Equipment used is;
Hitachi CML 174SXWB LCD Monitor,
Epson R210 (R200) Printer,
Photoshop 7.

When attempting to calibrate the monitor using the Adobe Gamma Utility it asks that the contrast to be set to it’s highest level – then adjust the brightness until the inner square is just noticeable.
If I adjust the contrast to it’s highest level the screen is so bright that even adjusting the brightness level to zero, the screen is still too bright. Can’t even see the inner square in the black square no matter what adjustment I make.

I suspect that LCD monitors are brighter than a normal monitor? If so what is the procedure to take when using the Adobe Gamma Utility on a LCD monitor?

I don’t think Adobe Gamma can be used with an LCD monitor.
Adobe Gamma does not support LCD monitors.

I’m not sure why you say this. I use it with mine quite effectively.
The main problem with LCD Monitors is not so much Brightness but Contrast. They have much higher contrast than CRT displays, and I find I have to reduce contrast significantly to achieve a reasonable match between display and printer.

Thanks to those that responded.

I suspected that the difficulty I am having with setting up the monitor using Adobe Gamma Utility was the difference between LCD and CRT monitors. At least now I know it isn’t me:-)

If as you say, the gamma utility can’t be used with a LCD monitor is there another programme that can be used for LCD monitors.

At the moment the colour in the printed prints doesn’t match the colours on the monitor, whites appear slightly pinkish.

Tony, would you be kind enough to elaborate on how you set up your LCD monitor using the gamma utility? If you prefer to contact me direct my address is:

anyoneATparadiseDOTnetDOTnz
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Fuzzy Wuzzy
Nov 8, 2004
If as you say, the gamma utility can’t be used with a LCD monitor is there another programme that can be used for LCD monitors.

I use Colorific (http://www.colorwizzard.com/)
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Fuzzy Wuzzy
Nov 8, 2004
If as you say, the gamma utility can’t be used with a LCD monitor is there another programme that can be used for LCD monitors.

I use Colorific (http://www.colorwizzard.com/)
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Husky
Nov 8, 2004
On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 16:39:17 GMT, (Tony H) wrote:

I would wonder why anyone uses anything other than the adjustments that come with the video card ? Or is ATI unique in that it has a ton of knobs and dials for video display ?
I’ve had to actually remove the adobe gamma loader cause it fought against the ATI adjustments.

neon wrote:

Johan W. Elzenga wrote:
John wrote:

Hope someone can assist me with setting up an LCD Monitor using the Adobe Gamma Utility.

Equipment used is;
Hitachi CML 174SXWB LCD Monitor,
Epson R210 (R200) Printer,
Photoshop 7.

When attempting to calibrate the monitor using the Adobe Gamma Utility it asks that the contrast to be set to it’s highest level – then adjust the brightness until the inner square is just noticeable.
If I adjust the contrast to it’s highest level the screen is so bright that even adjusting the brightness level to zero, the screen is still too bright. Can’t even see the inner square in the black square no matter what adjustment I make.

I suspect that LCD monitors are brighter than a normal monitor? If so what is the procedure to take when using the Adobe Gamma Utility on a LCD monitor?

I don’t think Adobe Gamma can be used with an LCD monitor.
Adobe Gamma does not support LCD monitors.

I’m not sure why you say this. I use it with mine quite effectively.
The main problem with LCD Monitors is not so much Brightness but Contrast. They have much higher contrast than CRT displays, and I find I have to reduce contrast significantly to achieve a reasonable match between display and printer.

TH


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Hecate
Nov 9, 2004
On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 16:39:17 GMT, (Tony H)
wrote:

Adobe Gamma does not support LCD monitors.

I’m not sure why you say this. I use it with mine quite effectively.
Because Adobe specifically says it isn’t for use with LCD monitors. So, if you do use it you won’t get a very good profile.



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Hecate
Nov 9, 2004
On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 10:00:18 +1300, John wrote:

If as you say, the gamma utility can’t be used with a LCD monitor is there another programme that can be used for LCD monitors.
Lots. The best one, IHMO, is made by Gretag Macbeth i.e. a proper combination of software and hardware.



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Hecate
Nov 9, 2004
On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 16:55:14 -0500, Husky wrote:

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 16:39:17 GMT, (Tony H) wrote:

I would wonder why anyone uses anything other than the adjustments that come with the video card ? Or is ATI unique in that it has a ton of knobs and dials for video display ?
I’ve had to actually remove the adobe gamma loader cause it fought against the ATI adjustments.
Because nothing you do with a card will be as good as buying even the cheapest solution, such as the EyeOne from Gretag Macbeth.



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Stephan
Nov 9, 2004
Husky wrote:
On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 16:39:17 GMT, (Tony H) wrote:

I would wonder why anyone uses anything other than the adjustments that come with the video card ? Or is ATI unique in that it has a ton of knobs and dials for video display ?
I’ve had to actually remove the adobe gamma loader cause it fought against the ATI adjustments.

You video card controls do not create a color profile, Adobe gamma does.

Stephan
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neon
Nov 9, 2004
John wrote:
Hope someone can assist me with setting up an LCD Monitor using the Adobe Gamma Utility.

Equipment used is;
Hitachi CML 174SXWB LCD Monitor,
Epson R210 (R200) Printer,
Photoshop 7.

When attempting to calibrate the monitor using the Adobe Gamma Utility it asks that the contrast to be set to it’s highest level – then adjust the brightness until the inner square is just noticeable.
If I adjust the contrast to it’s highest level the screen is so bright that even adjusting the brightness level to zero, the screen is still too bright. Can’t even see the inner square in the black square no matter what adjustment I make.

I suspect that LCD monitors are brighter than a normal monitor? If so what is the procedure to take when using the Adobe Gamma Utility on a LCD monitor?
sorry, i misspoke. i should have said adobe specifically states that adobe gamma is not for use with lcd monitors. i guess in some small minds that’s not the same as saying it’s not supported. you can use gamma for lcd monitors but the profile will be crappy.
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tony
Nov 9, 2004
John wrote:

Tony, would you be kind enough to elaborate on how you set up your LCD monitor using the gamma utility? If you prefer to contact me direct my address is:

anyoneATparadiseDOTnetDOTnz
Ok
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Husky
Nov 9, 2004
On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 05:13:44 GMT, Stephan wrote:

wrong. When I said a ton of dials and knobs, I wasn’t exaggerating, there’s 12 pages for video adjustment with a profile section. And that profile loads with every boot.

Husky wrote:
On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 16:39:17 GMT, (Tony H) wrote:

I would wonder why anyone uses anything other than the adjustments that come with the video card ? Or is ATI unique in that it has a ton of knobs and dials for video display ?
I’ve had to actually remove the adobe gamma loader cause it fought against the ATI adjustments.

You video card controls do not create a color profile, Adobe gamma does.
Stephan


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Stephan
Nov 9, 2004
Husky wrote:
On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 05:13:44 GMT, Stephan wrote:

wrong. When I said a ton of dials and knobs, I wasn’t exaggerating, there’s 12 pages for video adjustment with a profile section. And that profile loads with every boot.

Great! Use it instead of Adobe Gamma if you feel it works better for you. Stephan

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