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I am using another application that uses tubes. I don’t remember them from Photoshop or Illustrator but they look much like brushes. Are tubes just brushes by another name or is there more to it than that?

Thanks,
Ron

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I am using another application that uses tubes. I don’t remember them from Photoshop or Illustrator but they look much like brushes. Are tubes just brushes by another name or is there more to it than that?
Thanks,
Ron

Photoshop doesn’t offer tubes. Paint Shop Pro does. They are just full color brushes that can be applied with rotation, resizing, etc. Photoshop only supports grayscale brushes and not full color ones. If it supported full color brushes everything else you need is there. Shame really, it comes in handy for something’s like recreating bushes, trees, grass, etc.

Psygnosis
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ronviers
Oct 8, 2007
On Oct 8, 1:18 pm, "Psygnosis – Silent Running" wrote:
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I am using another application that uses tubes. I don’t remember them from Photoshop or Illustrator but they look much like brushes. Are tubes just brushes by another name or is there more to it than that?

Thanks,
Ron

Photoshop doesn’t offer tubes. Paint Shop Pro does. They are just full color brushes that can be applied with rotation, resizing, etc. Photoshop only supports grayscale brushes and not full color ones. If it supported full color brushes everything else you need is there. Shame really, it comes in handy for something’s like recreating bushes, trees, grass, etc.
Psygnosis

Thanks Psygnosis,

Hmm, that’s interesting. Maybe tubes is one of the main ingredients that separate a good bitmap editor from a paint program. Maybe you can tell me this. From what I can see from using the attribute editor in Maya; a tube appears to be a group of bitmap layers where each layers can be controlled separately but applied as a whole according to presets and stylus orientation and pressure. Does that seem to be the same in PSP or are they something completely different? I wonder if PSP tubes can be imported into Maya.
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On Oct 8, 1:18 pm, "Psygnosis – Silent Running" wrote:
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I am using another application that uses tubes. I don’t remember them from Photoshop or Illustrator but they look much like brushes. Are tubes just brushes by another name or is there more to it than that?

Thanks,
Ron

Photoshop doesn’t offer tubes. Paint Shop Pro does. They are just full color
brushes that can be applied with rotation, resizing, etc. Photoshop only supports grayscale brushes and not full color ones. If it supported full color brushes everything else you need is there. Shame really, it comes in
handy for something’s like recreating bushes, trees, grass, etc.
Psygnosis

Thanks Psygnosis,

Hmm, that’s interesting. Maybe tubes is one of the main ingredients that separate a good bitmap editor from a paint program. Maybe you can tell me this. From what I can see from using the attribute editor in Maya; a tube appears to be a group of bitmap layers where each layers can be controlled separately but applied as a whole according to presets and stylus orientation and pressure. Does that seem to be the same in PSP or are they something completely different? I wonder if PSP tubes can be imported into Maya.

Very different. In something like Paintshop Pro (Corel Painter was the first to have tubes but they called the feature Image Hose) it takes little full color images, for example butterflies (different butterflies) and allows you to spray them all over the place with rotation, size and other attribute being different.

Psygnosis
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jones
Oct 9, 2007
I think in Photoshop they are called "stamps" ?

Katherine

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I am using another application that uses tubes. I don’t remember them from Photoshop or Illustrator but they look much like brushes. Are tubes just brushes by another name or is there more to it than that?
Thanks,
Ron
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Dave
Oct 9, 2007
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I am using another application that uses tubes. I don’t remember them from Photoshop or Illustrator but they look much like brushes. Are tubes just brushes by another name or is there more to it than that?
Thanks,
Ron

On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 13:32:13 +1000, "jones" wrote:

I think in Photoshop they are called "stamps" ?
Katherine

The highest eagle on this graphic was done with a PS Brush. This image is 100MB (A2 size & 300 ppi ) but reduced for this. Not printed yet but still working on it.

http://dave.photos.gb.net/p45740170.html

Dave
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ronviers
Oct 9, 2007
On Oct 8, 9:05 pm, "Psygnosis – Silent Running" wrote:
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On Oct 8, 1:18 pm, "Psygnosis – Silent Running" wrote:
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I am using another application that uses tubes. I don’t remember them from Photoshop or Illustrator but they look much like brushes. Are tubes just brushes by another name or is there more to it than that?

Thanks,
Ron

Photoshop doesn’t offer tubes. Paint Shop Pro does. They are just full color
brushes that can be applied with rotation, resizing, etc. Photoshop only supports grayscale brushes and not full color ones. If it supported full color brushes everything else you need is there. Shame really, it comes in
handy for something’s like recreating bushes, trees, grass, etc.

Psygnosis

Thanks Psygnosis,

Hmm, that’s interesting. Maybe tubes is one of the main ingredients that separate a good bitmap editor from a paint program. Maybe you can tell me this. From what I can see from using the attribute editor in Maya; a tube appears to be a group of bitmap layers where each layers can be controlled separately but applied as a whole according to presets and stylus orientation and pressure. Does that seem to be the same in PSP or are they something completely different? I wonder if PSP tubes can be imported into Maya.

Very different. In something like Paintshop Pro (Corel Painter was the first to have tubes but they called the feature Image Hose) it takes little full color images, for example butterflies (different butterflies) and allows you to spray them all over the place with rotation, size and other attribute being different.

Psygnosis

Thanks again Psygnosis,
As it turns out my earlier description of tubes only applies to 2D tubes. There are also 3D tubes where the brush is used to apply geometry objects to a scene in the form of nodes (transform, shape, etc. attached to a NURBS curve) that can then be acted upon by fields or other dynamics or even animated. The 2D tubes can be blended with other tubes for example a feather could be blended with a flame tube. I wish I had access to one of the high-end paint programs just to have a look around.

Ron
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ronviers
Oct 9, 2007
On Oct 8, 10:32 pm, "jones" wrote:
I think in Photoshop they are called "stamps" ?
Katherine

Thanks Katherine
There is something else called tags but I have not figured out what they are either – tags may be closer to stamps than tubes.

Ron
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ronviers
Oct 9, 2007
On Oct 9, 5:11 am, Dave wrote:
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I am using another application that uses tubes. I don’t remember them from Photoshop or Illustrator but they look much like brushes. Are tubes just brushes by another name or is there more to it than that?

Thanks,
Ron

On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 13:32:13 +1000, "jones" wrote:
I think in Photoshop they are called "stamps" ?

Katherine

The highest eagle on this graphic was done with a PS Brush. This image is 100MB (A2 size & 300 ppi ) but reduced for this. Not printed yet but still working on it.

http://dave.photos.gb.net/p45740170.html

Dave

Nice work Dave – I would like to see the full res version.
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jones
Oct 9, 2007
Not sure what tags are in Photoshop, but tags in scrapbooking are like luggage labels and you can decorate them how you wish.

Katherine

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On Oct 8, 10:32 pm, "jones" wrote:
I think in Photoshop they are called "stamps" ?
Katherine

Thanks Katherine
There is something else called tags but I have not figured out what they are either – tags may be closer to stamps than tubes.
Ron

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Dave
Oct 9, 2007
On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:25:19 -0000, ""
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On Oct 9, 5:11 am, Dave wrote:
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I am using another application that uses tubes. I don’t remember them from Photoshop or Illustrator but they look much like brushes. Are tubes just brushes by another name or is there more to it than that?

Thanks,
Ron

On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 13:32:13 +1000, "jones" wrote:
I think in Photoshop they are called "stamps" ?

Katherine

The highest eagle on this graphic was done with a PS Brush. This image is 100MB (A2 size & 300 ppi ) but reduced for this. Not printed yet but still working on it.

http://dave.photos.gb.net/p45740170.html

Dave

Nice work Dave – I would like to see the full res version.

Thanx for the compliment, Ron…
will post it again when finnished.

Dave
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Joe
Oct 9, 2007
"Psygnosis – Silent Running" wrote:

<snip>
Very different. In something like Paintshop Pro (Corel Painter was the first to have tubes but they called the feature Image Hose) it takes little full color images, for example butterflies (different butterflies) and allows you to spray them all over the place with rotation, size and other attribute being different.

Psygnosis

Argggg. now I think I know what "tube" is (I hope). If it just SPRAY the image to canvas then YES Photoshop has always had the option (and kinda more than just spraying), as well as Plug-in if you need pre-made icon. I believe HumanSoft is the one has the plug-in and several volumes of image for you to spray.

Photoshop? you can create your own pattern (?) then you can spray as much as you want, if you don’t care about colorful spray then you can customize your own brush (with many different options for your liking). I only tried Pattern few times way back to version 5 or so, and brush then I use now and then to either (1) adding my signature (2) copyright watermark (3) fixing some hair problem, (4) or creating digital backdrop etc..
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ronviers
Oct 9, 2007
On Oct 9, 7:45 am, "jones" wrote:
Not sure what tags are in Photoshop, but tags in scrapbooking are like luggage labels and you can decorate them how you wish.

Katherine

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On Oct 8, 10:32 pm, "jones" wrote:
I think in Photoshop they are called "stamps" ?

Katherine

Thanks Katherine
There is something else called tags but I have not figured out what they are either – tags may be closer to stamps than tubes.

Ron

Thanks again Katherine,
Come to think of it, I think it was a scrapbooking thread I was reading when I came across tags. I’m still not clear what they are though. Would a button with the background knocked out be a tag? What about something like a little ‘Hello Kitty’ would that be a tag? Are there a tag communities like there are smiley communities? Does tag have a format (file extension) associated with it?
TC
tony cooper
Oct 9, 2007
On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 16:25:44 -0000, ""
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On Oct 9, 7:45 am, "jones" wrote:
Not sure what tags are in Photoshop, but tags in scrapbooking are like luggage labels and you can decorate them how you wish.

Katherine

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On Oct 8, 10:32 pm, "jones" wrote:
I think in Photoshop they are called "stamps" ?

Katherine

Thanks Katherine
There is something else called tags but I have not figured out what they are either – tags may be closer to stamps than tubes.

Ron

Thanks again Katherine,
Come to think of it, I think it was a scrapbooking thread I was reading when I came across tags. I’m still not clear what they are though. Would a button with the background knocked out be a tag? What about something like a little ‘Hello Kitty’ would that be a tag? Are there a tag communities like there are smiley communities? Does tag have a format (file extension) associated with it?

Dunno if this is the same "tags", but in Photoshop Elements the user can apply "tags" to images in the Organizer. It provides a way to sort the images by keywords. For example, searching on "Maude" would bring up all images tagged with "Maude" as a means of identifying images with Maude in the picture. Multiple tags are allowed, so "Maude" and "Frank" could used to find images of either or both together. The original file name remains in each case.



Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL
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I am using another application that uses tubes. I don’t remember them from Photoshop or Illustrator but they look much like brushes. Are tubes just brushes by another name or is there more to it than that?
Thanks,
Ron

On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 13:32:13 +1000, "jones" wrote:
I think in Photoshop they are called "stamps" ?
Katherine

The highest eagle on this graphic was done with a PS Brush. This image is 100MB (A2 size & 300 ppi ) but reduced for this. Not printed yet but still working on it.

http://dave.photos.gb.net/p45740170.html

Dave

Yep black and white and a brush is not an image hose or picture tube. Do you research before you post it will keep from looking foolish.

Psygnosis
"jones" wrote in message
I think in Photoshop they are called "stamps" ?
Katherine

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I am using another application that uses tubes. I don’t remember them from Photoshop or Illustrator but they look much like brushes. Are tubes just brushes by another name or is there more to it than that?
Thanks,
Ron

Stamps now what hole did you pull this out of? Photoshop has nothing called a stamp.
TC
tony cooper
Oct 9, 2007
On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 14:36:25 -0700, "Psygnosis – Silent Running" wrote:

"jones" wrote in message
I think in Photoshop they are called "stamps" ?
Katherine

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I am using another application that uses tubes. I don’t remember them from Photoshop or Illustrator but they look much like brushes. Are tubes just brushes by another name or is there more to it than that?

Stamps now what hole did you pull this out of? Photoshop has nothing called a stamp.

Really? What’s the Pattern Stamp Tool and the Clone Stamp Tool doing on my PS7 toolbar? The icon for both is a rubber stamp.



Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL
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Joe
Oct 9, 2007
"Psygnosis – Silent Running" wrote:

"jones" wrote in message
I think in Photoshop they are called "stamps" ?
Katherine

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I am using another application that uses tubes. I don’t remember them from Photoshop or Illustrator but they look much like brushes. Are tubes just brushes by another name or is there more to it than that?
Thanks,
Ron

Stamps now what hole did you pull this out of? Photoshop has nothing called a stamp.

Yes, Photoshop does have "Stamp" (next and same group with CLONE tool) but I don’t know if it’s the right tool (I believe I have tried this at least once but many moons ago to remember exactly what it does.
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Dave
Oct 9, 2007
On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 14:35:47 -0700, "Psygnosis – Silent Running" wrote:

"Dave" wrote in message
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I am using another application that uses tubes. I don’t remember them from Photoshop or Illustrator but they look much like brushes. Are tubes just brushes by another name or is there more to it than that?
Thanks,
Ron

On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 13:32:13 +1000, "jones" wrote:
I think in Photoshop they are called "stamps" ?
Katherine

The highest eagle on this graphic was done with a PS Brush. This image is 100MB (A2 size & 300 ppi ) but reduced for this. Not printed yet but still working on it.

http://dave.photos.gb.net/p45740170.html

Dave

Yep black and white and a brush is not an image hose or picture tube. Do you research before you post it will keep from looking foolish.
Psygnosis

Obvious, you do not realize the applicability of what you said on your own postings. I work mainly in Corel Painter, and Paintshop is on my wife’s PC. And I, nearly always, use Photoshop and Painter on the same images. So, I should know what the difference between all of them is. Keep yourself from looking foolish.

Dave
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Dave
Oct 9, 2007
, "Psygnosis

Stamps now what hole did you pull this out of? Photoshop has nothing called a stamp.

tony cooper
Really? What’s the Pattern Stamp Tool and the Clone Stamp Tool doing on my PS7 toolbar? The icon for both is a rubber stamp.

Psygnosis
Do you research before you post it will keep from looking foolish.

Dave
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ronviers
Oct 9, 2007
On Oct 9, 3:23 pm, tony cooper wrote:
On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 16:25:44 -0000, ""

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On Oct 9, 7:45 am, "jones" wrote:
Not sure what tags are in Photoshop, but tags in scrapbooking are like luggage labels and you can decorate them how you wish.

Katherine

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On Oct 8, 10:32 pm, "jones" wrote:
I think in Photoshop they are called "stamps" ?

Katherine

Thanks Katherine
There is something else called tags but I have not figured out what they are either – tags may be closer to stamps than tubes.

Ron

Thanks again Katherine,
Come to think of it, I think it was a scrapbooking thread I was reading when I came across tags. I’m still not clear what they are though. Would a button with the background knocked out be a tag? What about something like a little ‘Hello Kitty’ would that be a tag? Are there a tag communities like there are smiley communities? Does tag have a format (file extension) associated with it?

Dunno if this is the same "tags", but in Photoshop Elements the user can apply "tags" to images in the Organizer. It provides a way to sort the images by keywords. For example, searching on "Maude" would bring up all images tagged with "Maude" as a means of identifying images with Maude in the picture. Multiple tags are allowed, so "Maude" and "Frank" could used to find images of either or both together. The original file name remains in each case.



Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL

Hi Tony,
I am familiar with tags in the context you mentioned. Unfortunately I have never got them to work for me. I am not comfortable with Adobe’s search and sort methods yet. I am sure their approach is very sophisticated and effective because it is used successfully by so many professionals but I have opted for my own system for now. I also read a reference to tag wars recently too but I have no idea what that could be about – maybe a scrapbooking thing.
Thanks,
Ron
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jones
Oct 10, 2007
C’m Dave, play nice. We are all here to learn from each other.

Katherine

Obvious, you do not realize the applicability of what you said on your own postings. I work mainly in Corel Painter, and Paintshop is on my wife’s PC. And I, nearly always, use Photoshop and Painter on the same images. So, I should know what the difference between all of them is. Keep yourself from looking foolish.

Dave
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jones
Oct 10, 2007
Ok Psygnosis,

As you can see I am only a beginner on Photoshop. I am more familiar on PSP, although I like PS too.

In scrapbooking circles Stamps were similar to Tubes in some programmes.

Katherine

I think in Photoshop they are called "stamps" ?
Katherine

Stamps now what hole did you pull this out of? Photoshop has nothing called a stamp.
J
jones
Oct 10, 2007
Looking through Google, seems the word Tag can mean a lot of things.

Tag in scrapbooking is like a baggage/luggage tag or gift tag/swing tag. Usually made of cardboard and you put your name and address on it and attach to luggage.

Gift tags, same sort of thing i.e. To and From…..

When used in scrapbooking or page layout as an element/embellishment, you can decorate it how you want to, size what you want.

Rectangle (or even round these days) with eyelet hole, then you can add ribbon, rope, string or whatever as another embellishment.

Is that any clearer Ron? Also I don’t know why the word "tubes" is used at all in progs, bec it is confusing.

Katherine

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On Oct 8, 10:32 pm, "jones" wrote:
I think in Photoshop they are called "stamps" ?

Katherine

Thanks Katherine
There is something else called tags but I have not figured out what they are either – tags may be closer to stamps than tubes.

Hi Tony,
I am familiar with tags in the context you mentioned. Unfortunately I have never got them to work for me. I am not comfortable with Adobe’s search and sort methods yet. I am sure their approach is very sophisticated and effective because it is used successfully by so many professionals but I have opted for my own system for now. I also read a reference to tag wars recently too but I have no idea what that could be about – maybe a scrapbooking thing.
Thanks,
Ron
TC
tony cooper
Oct 10, 2007
On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 22:45:26 -0000, ""
wrote:

I am familiar with tags in the context you mentioned. Unfortunately I have never got them to work for me. I am not comfortable with Adobe’s search and sort methods yet. I am sure their approach is very sophisticated and effective because it is used successfully by so many professionals but I have opted for my own system for now. I also read a reference to tag wars recently too but I have no idea what that could be about – maybe a scrapbooking thing.
Thanks,

I know about tags in Elements, but I’ve never used them. I don’t have any idea how effective they are. I use PS 7.0, but have Elements 5.0 because my daughter bought it not too long ago and I bought it just be able to answer her questions using the same tools she’s using. I’ve never used the Organizer module.



Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL
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Dave
Oct 10, 2007
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:56:27 +1000, "jones" wrote:

C’m Dave, play nice. We are all here to learn from each other.
Katherine

Yep black and white and a brush is not an image hose or picture tube. Do you research before you post it will keep from looking foolish.
Psygnosis

Obvious, you do not realize the applicability of what you said on your own postings. I work mainly in Corel Painter, and Paintshop is on my wife’s PC. And I, nearly always, use Photoshop and Painter on the same images. So, I should know what the difference between all of them is. Keep yourself from looking foolish.

Dave

I do play nice Katherine. In fact, I am a perfect gentleman.. until an idiot like psygnosis change my attitude. But his kind do not last long on this (or any other group).

Dave
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KatWoman
Oct 12, 2007
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On Oct 8, 1:18 pm, "Psygnosis – Silent Running" wrote:
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I am using another application that uses tubes. I don’t remember them from Photoshop or Illustrator but they look much like brushes. Are tubes just brushes by another name or is there more to it than that?

Thanks,
Ron

Photoshop doesn’t offer tubes. Paint Shop Pro does. They are just full color
brushes that can be applied with rotation, resizing, etc. Photoshop only supports grayscale brushes and not full color ones. If it supported full color brushes everything else you need is there. Shame really, it comes in
handy for something’s like recreating bushes, trees, grass, etc.
Psygnosis

Thanks Psygnosis,

Hmm, that’s interesting. Maybe tubes is one of the main ingredients that separate a good bitmap editor from a paint program. Maybe you can tell me this. From what I can see from using the attribute editor in Maya; a tube appears to be a group of bitmap layers where each layers can be controlled separately but applied as a whole according to presets and stylus orientation and pressure. Does that seem to be the same in PSP or are they something completely different? I wonder if PSP tubes can be imported into Maya.

Very different. In something like Paintshop Pro (Corel Painter was the first to have tubes but they called the feature Image Hose) it takes little full color images, for example butterflies (different butterflies) and allows you to spray them all over the place with rotation, size and other attribute being different.

Psygnosis

you can customize the brushes in PS to do that too
Ihave one of butterflies you describe
downloaded it from Adobe Exchange

K
KatWoman
Oct 12, 2007
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On Oct 8, 1:18 pm, "Psygnosis – Silent Running" wrote:
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I am using another application that uses tubes. I don’t remember them from Photoshop or Illustrator but they look much like brushes. Are tubes just brushes by another name or is there more to it than that?

Thanks,
Ron

Photoshop doesn’t offer tubes. Paint Shop Pro does. They are just full color
brushes that can be applied with rotation, resizing, etc. Photoshop only
supports grayscale brushes and not full color ones. If it supported full
color brushes everything else you need is there. Shame really, it comes in
handy for something’s like recreating bushes, trees, grass, etc.
Psygnosis

Thanks Psygnosis,

Hmm, that’s interesting. Maybe tubes is one of the main ingredients that separate a good bitmap editor from a paint program. Maybe you can tell me this. From what I can see from using the attribute editor in Maya; a tube appears to be a group of bitmap layers where each layers can be controlled separately but applied as a whole according to presets and stylus orientation and pressure. Does that seem to be the same in PSP or are they something completely different? I wonder if PSP tubes can be imported into Maya.

Very different. In something like Paintshop Pro (Corel Painter was the first to have tubes but they called the feature Image Hose) it takes little full color images, for example butterflies (different butterflies) and allows you to spray them all over the place with rotation, size and other attribute being different.

Psygnosis

you can customize the brushes in PS to do that too
Ihave one of butterflies you describe
downloaded it from Adobe Exchange

brush set is called flower scans
make sure to turn on color dynamics
even the kids art programs have these colorful object brushes and they asked me why PS my fancy program could not and it does!! now when they come over they use PS (ages 8 and 10)
I got some Disney character brushes too Vargas girls
Greek columns>>> good stuff on there
K
KatWoman
Oct 12, 2007
"Dave" wrote in message
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:56:27 +1000, "jones" wrote:
C’m Dave, play nice. We are all here to learn from each other.
Katherine

Yep black and white and a brush is not an image hose or picture tube. Do you
research before you post it will keep from looking foolish.
Psygnosis

Obvious, you do not realize the applicability of what you said on your own postings. I work mainly in Corel Painter, and Paintshop is on my wife’s PC. And I, nearly always, use Photoshop and Painter on the same images. So, I should know what the difference between all of them is. Keep yourself from looking foolish.

Dave

I do play nice Katherine. In fact, I am a perfect gentleman.. until an idiot like psygnosis change my attitude. But his kind do not last long on this (or any other group).

Dave

especially since he is wrong
multi color brushes is part of PS CS
IF YOU KNOW how to use the tools and not act like a tool download flowerscan brush set
put on color dynamics
J
Joe
Oct 12, 2007
"KatWoman" wrote:

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Very different. In something like Paintshop Pro (Corel Painter was the first to have tubes but they called the feature Image Hose) it takes little full color images, for example butterflies (different butterflies) and allows you to spray them all over the place with rotation, size and other attribute being different.

Psygnosis

you can customize the brushes in PS to do that too
Ihave one of butterflies you describe
downloaded it from Adobe Exchange

Brush only do single color, when something like Pattern (I am not sure if it’s the right name) which does exactly what Brush does *except* in full color of the original.

This I tried on very early version of Photoshop (somehwere around v5 or so?)
K
KatWoman
Oct 12, 2007
"Joe" wrote in message
"KatWoman" wrote:

<snip>
Very different. In something like Paintshop Pro (Corel Painter was the first to have tubes but they called the feature Image Hose) it takes little full color images, for example butterflies (different butterflies)
and allows you to spray them all over the place with rotation, size and other attribute being different.

Psygnosis

you can customize the brushes in PS to do that too
Ihave one of butterflies you describe
downloaded it from Adobe Exchange

Brush only do single color, when something like Pattern (I am not sure if it’s the right name) which does exactly what Brush does *except* in full color of the original.

This I tried on very early version of Photoshop (somehwere around v5 or so?)

not true
I got multi color brushes

an example is here>>> screenshot
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kw-retouch/1554073856/
J
Joe
Oct 12, 2007
"KatWoman" wrote:

"Joe" wrote in message
"KatWoman" wrote:

<snip>
Very different. In something like Paintshop Pro (Corel Painter was the first to have tubes but they called the feature Image Hose) it takes little full color images, for example butterflies (different butterflies)
and allows you to spray them all over the place with rotation, size and other attribute being different.

Psygnosis

you can customize the brushes in PS to do that too
Ihave one of butterflies you describe
downloaded it from Adobe Exchange

Brush only do single color, when something like Pattern (I am not sure if it’s the right name) which does exactly what Brush does *except* in full color of the original.

This I tried on very early version of Photoshop (somehwere around v5 or so?)

not true
I got multi color brushes

an example is here>>> screenshot
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kw-retouch/1554073856/

Do you have to change the color manually or Photoshop itself paints multiple colors in single brush stroke? I am just guessing base on my own experience

I know you can chance to just about any color you want, but by default it only do single color. And by looking at the sample you have on your web, I see only single color (even that I see different flowers in different colors, but each flower is single-color).

Yup! I look at those flowers again and it seems like it’s from same brush (single flower brush) and you chance the SIZE and COLOR.
K
KatWoman
Oct 12, 2007
"Joe" wrote in message
"KatWoman" wrote:

"Joe" wrote in message
"KatWoman" wrote:

<snip>
Very different. In something like Paintshop Pro (Corel Painter was the
first to have tubes but they called the feature Image Hose) it takes little full color images, for example butterflies (different butterflies)
and allows you to spray them all over the place with rotation, size and
other attribute being different.

Psygnosis

you can customize the brushes in PS to do that too
Ihave one of butterflies you describe
downloaded it from Adobe Exchange

Brush only do single color, when something like Pattern (I am not sure if
it’s the right name) which does exactly what Brush does *except* in full
color of the original.

This I tried on very early version of Photoshop (somehwere around v5 or so?)

not true
I got multi color brushes

an example is here>>> screenshot
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kw-retouch/1554073856/

Do you have to change the color manually or Photoshop itself paints multiple colors in single brush stroke? I am just guessing base on my own experience

I know you can chance to just about any color you want, but by default it only do single color. And by looking at the sample you have on your web, I
see only single color (even that I see different flowers in different colors, but each flower is single-color).

Yup! I look at those flowers again and it seems like it’s from same brush (single flower brush) and you chance the SIZE and COLOR.

no read the description
tick color dynamics and try it
K
KatWoman
Oct 12, 2007
"Joe" wrote in message
"KatWoman" wrote:

"Joe" wrote in message
"KatWoman" wrote:

<snip>
Very different. In something like Paintshop Pro (Corel Painter was the
first to have tubes but they called the feature Image Hose) it takes little full color images, for example butterflies (different butterflies)
and allows you to spray them all over the place with rotation, size and
other attribute being different.

Psygnosis

you can customize the brushes in PS to do that too
Ihave one of butterflies you describe
downloaded it from Adobe Exchange

Brush only do single color, when something like Pattern (I am not sure if
it’s the right name) which does exactly what Brush does *except* in full
color of the original.

This I tried on very early version of Photoshop (somehwere around v5 or so?)

not true
I got multi color brushes

an example is here>>> screenshot
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kw-retouch/1554073856/

Do you have to change the color manually or Photoshop itself paints multiple colors in single brush stroke? I am just guessing base on my own experience

I know you can chance to just about any color you want, but by default it only do single color. And by looking at the sample you have on your web, I
see only single color (even that I see different flowers in different colors, but each flower is single-color).

Yup! I look at those flowers again and it seems like it’s from same brush (single flower brush) and you chance the SIZE and COLOR.

it is spraying multi colors not changing one each spot
brush tool options very useful maybe try it before you say it doesn’t work
J
Joe
Oct 12, 2007
"KatWoman" wrote:

<snip>
Do you have to change the color manually or Photoshop itself paints multiple colors in single brush stroke? I am just guessing base on my own experience

I know you can chance to just about any color you want, but by default it only do single color. And by looking at the sample you have on your web, I
see only single color (even that I see different flowers in different colors, but each flower is single-color).

Yup! I look at those flowers again and it seems like it’s from same brush (single flower brush) and you chance the SIZE and COLOR.

it is spraying multi colors not changing one each spot
brush tool options very useful maybe try it before you say it doesn’t work

Brush Tool, I do know it and I do use it to touch-up grass as well as hair, beard etc. and I do know it can do different randomize, shape (tilting), and multiple SOLID colors. So, you are right that it does kinda auto, but you still won’t agree it only do single-color (well, the tool change to different single-color’s but still single color).

IOW, the *solid* red, black, white, blue, yellow flower etc. are single-color flowers.
K
KatWoman
Oct 12, 2007
"KatWoman" wrote in message
"Dave" wrote in message
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:56:27 +1000, "jones" wrote:
C’m Dave, play nice. We are all here to learn from each other.
Katherine

Yep black and white and a brush is not an image hose or picture tube. Do you
research before you post it will keep from looking foolish.
Psygnosis

Obvious, you do not realize the applicability of what you said on your own postings. I work mainly in Corel Painter, and Paintshop is on my wife’s PC. And I, nearly always, use Photoshop and Painter on the same images. So, I should know what the difference between all of them is. Keep yourself from looking foolish.

Dave

I do play nice Katherine. In fact, I am a perfect gentleman.. until an idiot like psygnosis change my attitude. But his kind do not last long on this (or any other group).

Dave

especially since he is wrong
multi color brushes is part of PS CS
IF YOU KNOW how to use the tools and not act like a tool download flowerscan brush set
put on color dynamics

since some of you still not getting it and telling people it can’t be done why wouldn’t you expect PS to have as good or better brush options than PSP????

http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1555427759&size= o
K
KatWoman
Oct 12, 2007
"Joe" wrote in message
"KatWoman" wrote:

"Joe" wrote in message
"KatWoman" wrote:

<snip>
Very different. In something like Paintshop Pro (Corel Painter was the
first to have tubes but they called the feature Image Hose) it takes little full color images, for example butterflies (different butterflies)
and allows you to spray them all over the place with rotation, size and
other attribute being different.

Psygnosis

you can customize the brushes in PS to do that too
Ihave one of butterflies you describe
downloaded it from Adobe Exchange

Brush only do single color, when something like Pattern (I am not sure if
it’s the right name) which does exactly what Brush does *except* in full
color of the original.

This I tried on very early version of Photoshop (somehwere around v5 or so?)

not true
I got multi color brushes

an example is here>>> screenshot
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kw-retouch/1554073856/

Do you have to change the color manually or Photoshop itself paints multiple colors in single brush stroke? I am just guessing base on my own experience

I know you can chance to just about any color you want, but by default it only do single color. And by looking at the sample you have on your web, I
see only single color (even that I see different flowers in different colors, but each flower is single-color).

Yup! I look at those flowers again and it seems like it’s from same brush (single flower brush) and you chance the SIZE and COLOR.

why wouldn’t you expect PS to have as good or better brush options than PSP????
since some of you still not getting it and telling people it can’t be done

http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1555427759&size= o another demo
with explanations
K
KatWoman
Oct 12, 2007
"Joe" wrote in message
"KatWoman" wrote:

<snip>
Do you have to change the color manually or Photoshop itself paints multiple colors in single brush stroke? I am just guessing base on my own
experience

I know you can chance to just about any color you want, but by default it
only do single color. And by looking at the sample you have on your web,
I
see only single color (even that I see different flowers in different colors, but each flower is single-color).

Yup! I look at those flowers again and it seems like it’s from same brush
(single flower brush) and you chance the SIZE and COLOR.

it is spraying multi colors not changing one each spot
brush tool options very useful maybe try it before you say it doesn’t work

Brush Tool, I do know it and I do use it to touch-up grass as well as hair, beard etc. and I do know it can do different randomize, shape (tilting), and multiple SOLID colors. So, you are right that it does kinda
auto, but you still won’t agree it only do single-color (well, the tool change to different single-color’s but still single color).
IOW, the *solid* red, black, white, blue, yellow flower etc. are single-color flowers.

why do you keep insisting on being wrong??
if you don’t know the answer
keep your mouth shut long enough to open PS and try and learn a new trick

the flowerscan shot is 5 squirts of multi color flowers GET IT????? color dynamics
scatter
on
J
Joe
Oct 13, 2007
"KatWoman" wrote:

<snip>
Brush Tool, I do know it and I do use it to touch-up grass as well as hair, beard etc. and I do know it can do different randomize, shape (tilting), and multiple SOLID colors. So, you are right that it does kinda
auto, but you still won’t agree it only do single-color (well, the tool change to different single-color’s but still single color).
IOW, the *solid* red, black, white, blue, yellow flower etc. are single-color flowers.

why do you keep insisting on being wrong??
if you don’t know the answer
keep your mouth shut long enough to open PS and try and learn a new trick
the flowerscan shot is 5 squirts of multi color flowers GET IT????? color dynamics
scatter
on

Hmmm I think you may shut your mouth to lets your brain do some thinking, because it squits 5 solid single color flowers. And multiple-colors is completely different than 5 flowers each has different COLOR (and I don’t say COLORS).
S
scooter
Oct 14, 2007
On Oct 13, 11:14 am, Joe wrote:
"KatWoman" wrote:

<snip>

Brush Tool, I do know it and I do use it to touch-up grass as well as hair, beard etc. and I do know it can do different randomize, shape (tilting), and multiple SOLID colors. So, you are right that it does kinda
auto, but you still won’t agree it only do single-color (well, the tool change to different single-color’s but still single color).

IOW, the *solid* red, black, white, blue, yellow flower etc. are single-color flowers.

why do you keep insisting on being wrong??
if you don’t know the answer
keep your mouth shut long enough to open PS and try and learn a new trick

the flowerscan shot is 5 squirts of multi color flowers GET IT????? color dynamics
scatter
on

Hmmm I think you may shut your mouth to lets your brain do some thinking, because it squits 5 solid single color flowers. And multiple-colors is completely different than 5 flowers each has different COLOR (and I don’t say COLORS).

Good Afternoon Group,

I am a long time user of Paint Shop Pro (PSP) and a newbie to Photo Shop (PS).
I have been trying for weeks to duplicate the PSP TUBE feature in PS.

I’ve been reading this thread with interest. I’m not used to the layout of this Usenet group, so apologies.
Joe is correct. Brushes with dynamic colors are NOT TUBES.

Tubes are full colored "stamps" of any subject/object matter. Pink flowers with green leaves and stems; a tree with its differing colored brown bark and green leaves;
in short a picture of anything (like a GIF or PNG image) and of any size you wish, which can be resized to fit your scenery or frame.

My quest for this ONE feature goes on. Cut and Paste will have to suffice in the meantime.

Take Care Scooter
J
Joe
Oct 14, 2007
wrote:

<snip>
the flowerscan shot is 5 squirts of multi color flowers GET IT????? color dynamics
scatter
on

Hmmm I think you may shut your mouth to lets your brain do some thinking, because it squits 5 solid single color flowers. And multiple-colors is completely different than 5 flowers each has different COLOR (and I don’t say COLORS).

Good Afternoon Group,

I am a long time user of Paint Shop Pro (PSP) and a newbie to Photo Shop (PS).
I have been trying for weeks to duplicate the PSP TUBE feature in PS.
I’ve been reading this thread with interest. I’m not used to the layout of this Usenet group, so apologies.
Joe is correct. Brushes with dynamic colors are NOT TUBES.
Tubes are full colored "stamps" of any subject/object matter. Pink flowers with green leaves and stems; a tree with its differing colored brown bark and green leaves;
in short a picture of anything (like a GIF or PNG image) and of any size you wish, which can be resized to fit your scenery or frame.
My quest for this ONE feature goes on. Cut and Paste will have to suffice in the meantime.

Take Care Scooter

It’s hard to get some expert to be able to understand the difference between "multiple colors FLOWER" (no S) with "5 flowerS in 5 different single-solid color"

As I have mentioned Photoshop has an option to turn any part of the image into "pattern" (or something I am not 100% sure) with the exact color/shape/size of the original (meaning you can have a true color flower with many different shades/colors). The only disadvantage that it won’t radomize like Brush (with extra options from the Tool’s setting), but if you use with the combination of Transparent, Layer, Free Transform (to rotate, scale etc..), Duplicate etc.. then you may be able to get some interesting look (not pretty complicate).
S
scooter
Oct 15, 2007
On Oct 14, 6:47 pm, Joe wrote:
<snip>

As I have mentioned Photoshop has an option to turn any part of the image into "pattern" (or something I am not 100% sure) with the exact color/shape/size of the original (meaning you can have a true color flower with many different shades/colors). The only disadvantage that it won’t radomize like Brush (with extra options from the Tool’s setting), but if you use with the combination of Transparent, Layer, Free Transform (to rotate, scale etc..), Duplicate etc.. then you may be able to get some interesting look (not pretty complicate).

Thank you.
I was going to "try-it-out" next.
But thought I’d see if there were other people asking the same question.

TakeCare — Scooter
J
Joe
Oct 16, 2007
ScooterC wrote:

On Oct 14, 6:47 pm, Joe wrote:
<snip>

As I have mentioned Photoshop has an option to turn any part of the image into "pattern" (or something I am not 100% sure) with the exact color/shape/size of the original (meaning you can have a true color flower with many different shades/colors). The only disadvantage that it won’t radomize like Brush (with extra options from the Tool’s setting), but if you use with the combination of Transparent, Layer, Free Transform (to rotate, scale etc..), Duplicate etc.. then you may be able to get some interesting look (not pretty complicate).

Thank you.
I was going to "try-it-out" next.
But thought I’d see if there were other people asking the same question.

And it was way way back to version 5 or so when I tried the option, so I have no idea if it’s still available on current or any improvement or not.

TakeCare — Scooter
R
ronviers
Oct 16, 2007
On Oct 14, 1:32 pm, wrote:
On Oct 13, 11:14 am, Joe wrote:

"KatWoman" wrote:

<snip>

Brush Tool, I do know it and I do use it to touch-up grass as well as hair, beard etc. and I do know it can do different randomize, shape (tilting), and multiple SOLID colors. So, you are right that it does kinda
auto, but you still won’t agree it only do single-color (well, the tool change to different single-color’s but still single color).

IOW, the *solid* red, black, white, blue, yellow flower etc. are single-color flowers.

why do you keep insisting on being wrong??
if you don’t know the answer
keep your mouth shut long enough to open PS and try and learn a new trick

the flowerscan shot is 5 squirts of multi color flowers GET IT????? color dynamics
scatter
on

Hmmm I think you may shut your mouth to lets your brain do some thinking, because it squits 5 solid single color flowers. And multiple-colors is completely different than 5 flowers each has different COLOR (and I don’t say COLORS).

Good Afternoon Group,

I am a long time user of Paint Shop Pro (PSP) and a newbie to Photo Shop (PS).
I have been trying for weeks to duplicate the PSP TUBE feature in PS.
I’ve been reading this thread with interest. I’m not used to the layout of this Usenet group, so apologies.
Joe is correct. Brushes with dynamic colors are NOT TUBES.
Tubes are full colored "stamps" of any subject/object matter. Pink flowers with green leaves and stems; a tree with its differing colored brown bark and green leaves;
in short a picture of anything (like a GIF or PNG image) and of any size you wish, which can be resized to fit your scenery or frame.
My quest for this ONE feature goes on. Cut and Paste will have to suffice in the meantime.

Take Care Scooter

Here an article that I found very helpful.
http://www.designer-info.com/Writing/photoshop_patterns.htm

Good luck,
Ron
S
scooter
Oct 18, 2007
On Oct 15, 9:34 pm, "" wrote:

Here an article that I found very helpful.http://www.designer-info.com/Writing/photoshop_patte rns.htm

Good luck,
Ron

Thanks Ron,

It is indeed informative, however it deals with FILL Patterns and not single "stamped" pictures that are called Tubes in PSP. I can achieve something similar with Copy-Paste & Layers, but it is extremely time consuming.
It is the ONE feature in PSP that has no similar feature in PhotoShop, which I find very discomforting.

Take Care, Scooter
J
Joe
Oct 18, 2007
ScooterC wrote:

On Oct 15, 9:34 pm, "" wrote:

Here an article that I found very helpful.http://www.designer-info.com/Writing/photoshop_patte rns.htm

Good luck,
Ron

Thanks Ron,

It is indeed informative, however it deals with FILL Patterns and not single "stamped" pictures that are called Tubes in PSP. I can achieve something similar with Copy-Paste & Layers, but it is extremely time consuming.
It is the ONE feature in PSP that has no similar feature in PhotoShop, which I find very discomforting.

Copy & Paste is different than brushing/painting (especially with multiple options from the tool), but not quite handy as regular paint brush.

Or, I don’t know what Tube does (I have some idea but I may be wrong), but I can tell you that Pattern is much difference than Copy & Paste, and sometime Duplicate is also more useful than Copy & Paste. Photoshop is rich of features/options to almost unlimited *if* you know how to dig for those features/options.

Take Care, Scooter

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