Photoshop Released Question

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Christine_Krof_Shock
Apr 15, 2004
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O.k. who set that to archive so quickly!! Where can I get permission to reprint the P.E.I. article! It’s great and I would love to be able to pass a copy to my students in PS I and II!!

Thanks
Christine Shock
Instructor, MGD
Front Range Community College-Boulder County Campus

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Phosphor
Apr 15, 2004
Right here, Christine:

<http://www.schewephoto.com/pei/pshistory.pdf>

I suggest contacting Jeff and/or the editors of P.E.I. to make sure you have permission to redistribute the article.
CK
Christine_Krof_Shock
Apr 15, 2004
Thanks–didn’t scroll far enough!!
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graffiti
Apr 15, 2004
Do you have to check first before you redistribute an article for educational purposes Phoz?
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Phosphor
Apr 15, 2004
Umm…wouldn’t hurt, Graff.

Best to keep out in front of any possible problems, IMNSHO.

Jeff and/or the editors of P.E.I. will probably say "SURE! No Problem! Go right ahead!" But if it was me, I’d make sure I had express written permission from Major League Baseb…

D’OH!
CK
Christine_Krof_Shock
Apr 15, 2004
It’s a requirement at our campus to have at least an email, if not a letter stating we have the right to reprint for our classes
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Phosphor
Apr 15, 2004
Good on ya’…and the college…Christine.

Getting permission should be fairly painless.

Just make sure you choose carefully your compelling words in the "Subject" field of your inquiry email so that Jeff or P.E.I will actually respond in good time and not take a pass on reading it.
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graffiti
Apr 15, 2004
I was mostly curious.

Back in the day, I worked in a reprographics shop and we were always reproducing stuff like this for the local state college. They informed us that it was allowed by copyright law.

I of course believe that the author should be contacted regardless but was wondering whether it was a legal responsibility.

We made them sign a release form just the same.
CK
Christine_Krof_Shock
Apr 15, 2004
kinko’s won’t copy anything anymore without a written release or they make you do it on a self-serve. Everybody’s gotten a lot stricter on this since the kinko’s suit!

We even have the copyright law posted on every printer on campus!
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Terrat
Apr 15, 2004
Christine,
What was and what happened with the Kinko’s suit? Could you state briefly for me?
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ID._Awe
Apr 15, 2004
Try this: Follow the link, remove the end on the link to enter Jeff’s site and look around. Use the back icon to get back here and voila, your font preference should change temporarily.
CK
Christine_Krof_Shock
Apr 15, 2004
Kinko’s got sued for copyright enfringement because they were copying material for college professors to use in "packets" that the professors were reselling at college bookstores. Several authors sued and won…court decision was to narrow the "fair use" doctorine. The courts decided that the old policy of "fair use" wasn’t fair to the original creators of the documents and that they should be receiving some sort of payment for the reprinting of their work. That’s why Kinko’s won’t copy anything out of a magazine, book, etc. for you they will make you use self serve so that they are not liable for copyright infringement.
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dave_milbut
Apr 16, 2004
I doubt they would’ve won if the professors weren’t selling the info. Fair educational use implies only for education, not for profit.
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JasonSmith
Apr 16, 2004
Wha?

The professors should have been sued – not the person printing them.
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Don_McCahill
Apr 16, 2004
Jason

Copyright and libel laws both state that anyone participating in breaking the law can be sued. If a newspaper prints a libel, the kid delivery the paper can be sued, legally (although it would be stupid to do so). Copyright is the same. The printer and the professor can be sued, but by hitting Kinkos, they get the effect they want without suing a thousand professors across the country to get the same result.

Dave

The profs were probably not selling in a profit sense, but just to cover the costs. Either way the authors have rights. If you wrote a textbook, expecting to sell hundreds to schools, and they only bought one, and copied it instead, would you feel this is "fair use".

There are educational exemptions, but only for very limited amounts of material. Chapters and sections are not considered fair use.
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dave_milbut
Apr 16, 2004
The professors should have been sued – not the person printing them.

I just assumed they were included. My bad. (nya!@phosphor! <g>)

Either way the authors have rights. If you wrote a textbook, expecting to sell hundreds to schools, and they only bought one, and copied it instead, would you feel this is "fair use".

no… i also believe there’s something about using a reasonable sized portion of a copyrighted piece, not the entire thing. bottom line is get permission when in doubt.
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John_R_Nielsen
Apr 18, 2004
From the PEI site (http://www.peimag.com/pressroom.htm)

email:
phone: 651.582.3800 (CT).

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