take the white out (kinda white)

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Jun 24, 2003
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we have a hand drawn site plan (architectural work)
and scanned that image in to photoshop

the white paper…is now "smudgy" gray…almost white

is there a quick/easy way to get rid of that?

levels?
channels?

i dont know

any help is greatly appreciated

thanks
-G

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Don
Jun 24, 2003
Assuming it’s in B&W, not color, you can achieve this by manipiulating the brightness of the image, and perhaps the contrast as needed. On the menu bar go to Image>Adjustments>Brightness/Contrast and in the panel that pops up increase the brightness in units of 10 or so until the background is white enough. If you can’t get the background white without the foreground fading too much, increase the contrast also.

If you don’t need shades of gray, after you get a good balance go to Image>Mode and click on Bitmap. That will change it to pure black on a pure white background. The result will be a smaller file, and the printer will not try to put in shades of gray.

Don

"M. Jarviss" wrote in message
when we insert this image into a brochure…we want the white to be white (or invisible) when printed on a
white page…

right now..you can see the darkness where it used to be white

(is there a term for this?)
or should i keep saying "where it should be white, its gray…and we want that gone

anyway

yep…new guy here

-G

J
jrzyguy
Jun 25, 2003
i personaly never never ever ever touch the brightess/contrast tool….but rather use levels or curves. One has much more control ove the image….therefore making dingy grey backgrounds very white…while also using the tools to enhance the clarity of text etc. I have found that using the brightness/constrast tool one ends up making the ENTIRE image either more contrasted or brighter….where in either levels or curves you can make the lights ligher and the darks darker with much more precission.

It takes some practice…but its worth the effort.

anoyone correct me if i am wrong

jj

"Don" wrote in message
Assuming it’s in B&W, not color, you can achieve this by manipiulating the brightness of the image, and perhaps the contrast as needed. On the menu bar go to Image>Adjustments>Brightness/Contrast and in the panel that pops up increase the brightness in units of 10 or so until the background is white enough. If you can’t get the background white without the
foreground
fading too much, increase the contrast also.

If you don’t need shades of gray, after you get a good balance go to Image>Mode and click on Bitmap. That will change it to pure black on a pure white background. The result will be a smaller file, and the printer will not try to put in shades of gray.

Don

"M. Jarviss" wrote in message
when we insert this image into a brochure…we want the white to be
white
(or invisible) when printed on a
white page…

right now..you can see the darkness where it used to be white

(is there a term for this?)
or should i keep saying "where it should be white, its gray…and we
want
that gone

anyway

yep…new guy here

-G

TK
Ted Kerin
Jun 25, 2003
Great advice from all 3 who have commented so far. But I might suggest one more method:

[First, note that you’ll need a full version of Photoshop for this — I don’t think Elements can do it this way, although maybe I’m mistaken. Also, I think you’ll have to make a new layer that’s a copy of the background, and do the following steps on that new layer, rather than working with the Background itself.]

1) Use "Select>>Color Range". Select the "Image" view, and then click the eyedropper on one of the black (or blue) lines. After you OK on this, you will have an image with all of the lines selected.

2) Then go to "Select>>Inverse", and hit Delete. You will have an image (or actually, a layer) with ONLY the lines. The grey/off-white paper is gone.

3) Then, you can create a new "white" layer and drag it below the layer that’s "lines only". The result will be a layer with "lines only" and, below that, a pure white layer.

4) Delete the original "Background" (the one with the greyish or off-white background). Then you’re ready to "flatten image", and you’re done.

All of this is from memory, since I don’t have full PS (just Elements) on this machine, but I hope you find it helpful and accurate.
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CoolSnake37
Jun 26, 2003
You are absolutely correct. You should only use brightness and contrast unless you are using it to create an effect. To get rid of the paper color in a scan, or the artifacts that are picked up by a scanner you should use levels or curves.

On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 21:23:18 -0400, "jrzyguy" wrote:

i personaly never never ever ever touch the brightess/contrast tool….but rather use levels or curves. One has much more control ove the image….therefore making dingy grey backgrounds very white…while also using the tools to enhance the clarity of text etc. I have found that using the brightness/constrast tool one ends up making the ENTIRE image either more contrasted or brighter….where in either levels or curves you can make the lights ligher and the darks darker with much more precission.
It takes some practice…but its worth the effort.

anoyone correct me if i am wrong

jj

"Don" wrote in message
Assuming it’s in B&W, not color, you can achieve this by manipiulating the brightness of the image, and perhaps the contrast as needed. On the menu bar go to Image>Adjustments>Brightness/Contrast and in the panel that pops up increase the brightness in units of 10 or so until the background is white enough. If you can’t get the background white without the
foreground
fading too much, increase the contrast also.

If you don’t need shades of gray, after you get a good balance go to Image>Mode and click on Bitmap. That will change it to pure black on a pure white background. The result will be a smaller file, and the printer will not try to put in shades of gray.

Don

"M. Jarviss" wrote in message
when we insert this image into a brochure…we want the white to be
white
(or invisible) when printed on a
white page…

right now..you can see the darkness where it used to be white

(is there a term for this?)
or should i keep saying "where it should be white, its gray…and we
want
that gone

anyway

yep…new guy here

-G
J
jrzyguy
Jan 22, 2005
jarvis…if you are scared of the levels tool….just do this. try dragging the sliders at the bottom of the dialogue box (where it runs a gradient from black to white). If you move the sliders to and fro…you will see that you image changes. if you slide frome the right…the brights get brighter…if you slide from the left the darks get more contrast…..and then there is the middle slide tool!!!

also look and see if there are major fluctuations on the visual guide the levels tool gives you……..if you see no info on the right and then a huge upturn of information…just drag your slider to where the information starts to ascend.

Play with this….as i am making no sense

jj
"M. Jarviss" wrote in message
thanks guys

good info
it was more of a color rendering of an arial view

but i’ll learn from all you hvae posted
thanks agian
-G

"Ted Kerin" wrote in message
Great advice from all 3 who have commented so far. But I might suggest
one
more method:

[First, note that you’ll need a full version of Photoshop for this — I don’t think Elements can do it this way, although maybe I’m mistaken.
Also,
I think you’ll have to make a new layer that’s a copy of the background,
and
do the following steps on that new layer, rather than working with the Background itself.]

1) Use "Select>>Color Range". Select the "Image" view, and then click
the
eyedropper on one of the black (or blue) lines. After you OK on this,
you
will have an image with all of the lines selected.

2) Then go to "Select>>Inverse", and hit Delete. You will have an image
(or
actually, a layer) with ONLY the lines. The grey/off-white paper is
gone.
3) Then, you can create a new "white" layer and drag it below the layer that’s "lines only". The result will be a layer with "lines only" and,
below
that, a pure white layer.

4) Delete the original "Background" (the one with the greyish or
off-white
background). Then you’re ready to "flatten image", and you’re done.
All of this is from memory, since I don’t have full PS (just Elements)
on
this machine, but I hope you find it helpful and accurate.

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