Printing from PS CS3

Net Doe wrote:

I calibrated my monitor and printer. I still have non-close-matching image and prints. So I have a couple of quenstions.

– When printing from PS, I choose "manage by photoshop"; do I use the Printer Profile as "Working profile" (monitor profile) or the ICC profile for the pinter/paper I use? I used the latter. I used the other settings recommended by my PS reference books. – I set the printer color mgmt to "Managed by appl"; do I set the paper type to "Automatic" or the paper I use (HP Photo Premium, for example).

Did your copy of PS come with a second disc? If so, there’s a video on it explaining printing from PS.

Andrew

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Net Doe wrote:

I calibrated my monitor and printer. I still have non-close-matching image and prints. So I have a couple of quenstions.

– When printing from PS, I choose "manage by photoshop"; do I use the Printer Profile as "Working profile" (monitor profile) or the ICC profile for the pinter/paper I use? I used the latter. I used the other settings recommended by my PS reference books. – I set the printer color mgmt to "Managed by appl"; do I set the paper type to "Automatic" or the paper I use (HP Photo Premium, for example).

Did your copy of PS come with a second disc? If so, there’s a video on it explaining printing from PS.

Andrew

Thanks, but I bought it online. I’ll look for the videos.

Net Doe wrote:

I calibrated my monitor and printer. I still have non-close-matching image and prints. So I have a couple of quenstions.

– When printing from PS, I choose "manage by photoshop"; do I use the Printer Profile as "Working profile" (monitor profile) or the ICC profile for the pinter/paper I use? I used the latter. I used the other settings recommended by my PS reference books.
– I set the printer color mgmt to "Managed by appl"; do I set the paper type to "Automatic" or the paper I use (HP Photo Premium, for example).
Thanks!

Try setting it to the specific paper you use. ICC profile for the printer/paper and printer for the paper you use.

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JD..

"Net Doe" wrote in message

I calibrated my monitor and printer. I still have non-close-matching image and prints. So I have a couple of quenstions.

– When printing from PS, I choose "manage by photoshop"; do I use the Printer Profile as "Working profile" (monitor profile) or the ICC profile for the pinter/paper I use? I used the latter. I used the other settings recommended by my PS reference books.
– I set the printer color mgmt to "Managed by appl"; do I set the paper type to "Automatic" or the paper I use (HP Photo Premium, for example).
Thanks!

No, you don’t use the Printer Profile as the Working (Space) Profile, nor do you use it for the Monitor Profile.

The Working Space Profile should be one of the available Working Space Profiles – sRGB, Adobe RGB, Pro Photo RGB, etc.

Yes, you do still set the paper type in the printer driver, even though you have told the printer not to Colour Manage. You should also have done exactly the same when you were printing your test patches for Calibrating. If you didn’t that could be the cause of your mismatches.

BUT no matter how careful you are there will almost always be a slight mismatch due to the fact that the on-screen display uses transmitted light, and prints use reflected light.

Roy G

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"Net Doe" wrote in message

I calibrated my monitor and printer. I still have non-close-matching image and prints. So I have a couple of quenstions.

– When printing from PS, I choose "manage by photoshop"; do I use the Printer Profile as "Working profile" (monitor profile) or the ICC profile for the pinter/paper I use? I used the latter. I used the other settings recommended by my PS reference books.
– I set the printer color mgmt to "Managed by appl"; do I set the paper type to "Automatic" or the paper I use (HP Photo Premium, for example).
Thanks!

No, you don’t use the Printer Profile as the Working (Space) Profile, nor do you use it for the Monitor Profile.

The Working Space Profile should be one of the available Working Space Profiles – sRGB, Adobe RGB, Pro Photo RGB, etc.

Yes, you do still set the paper type in the printer driver, even though you have told the printer not to Colour Manage. You should also have done exactly the same when you were printing your test patches for Calibrating. If you didn’t that could be the cause of your mismatches.
BUT no matter how careful you are there will almost always be a slight mismatch due to the fact that the on-screen display uses transmitted light, and prints use reflected light.

Roy G

No, I set my PS working space to my monitor custom profile, which I calibrated, yes?

I’m talking about the settings in the Print dialog box.

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"Net Doe" wrote in message

I calibrated my monitor and printer. I still have non-close-matching image and prints. So I have a couple of quenstions.

– When printing from PS, I choose "manage by photoshop"; do I use the Printer Profile as "Working profile" (monitor profile) or the ICC profile for the pinter/paper I use? I used the latter. I used the other
settings recommended by my PS reference books.
– I set the printer color mgmt to "Managed by appl"; do I set the paper type to "Automatic" or the paper I use (HP Photo Premium, for example).
Thanks!

No, you don’t use the Printer Profile as the Working (Space) Profile, nor do you use it for the Monitor Profile.

The Working Space Profile should be one of the available Working Space Profiles – sRGB, Adobe RGB, Pro Photo RGB, etc.

Yes, you do still set the paper type in the printer driver, even though you have told the printer not to Colour Manage. You should also have done exactly the same when you were printing your test patches for Calibrating. If you didn’t that could be the cause of your mismatches.
BUT no matter how careful you are there will almost always be a slight mismatch due to the fact that the on-screen display uses transmitted light, and prints use reflected light.

Roy G

No, I set my PS working space to my monitor custom profile, which I calibrated, yes?

I’m talking about the settings in the Print dialog box.

NO!!!!!

The Working Space Profile is the Working Space Profile, and was "tagged" onto the Image File when that was last saved. It will most probably be sRGB or Adobe RGB.

The Monitor Profile is what Photoshop uses to give an accurate display on screeen, and has NOTHING to do with Printing.

Have another read up on Colour Management. You will find a range of Workflows on

http://tech.epson.com.au/downloads/

which you should be able to use, (with slight adjustments), even for your printer.

Roy G

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"Net Doe" wrote in message

I calibrated my monitor and printer. I still have non-close-matching image and prints. So I have a couple of quenstions.

– When printing from PS, I choose "manage by photoshop"; do I use the Printer Profile as "Working profile" (monitor profile) or the ICC profile for the pinter/paper I use? I used the latter. I used the other
settings recommended by my PS reference books.
– I set the printer color mgmt to "Managed by appl"; do I set the paper type to "Automatic" or the paper I use (HP Photo Premium, for example).

Thanks!

No, you don’t use the Printer Profile as the Working (Space) Profile, nor do you use it for the Monitor Profile.

The Working Space Profile should be one of the available Working Space Profiles – sRGB, Adobe RGB, Pro Photo RGB, etc.

Yes, you do still set the paper type in the printer driver, even though you have told the printer not to Colour Manage. You should also have done exactly the same when you were printing your test patches for Calibrating. If you didn’t that could be the cause of your mismatches.
BUT no matter how careful you are there will almost always be a slight mismatch due to the fact that the on-screen display uses transmitted light, and prints use reflected light.

Roy G

No, I set my PS working space to my monitor custom profile, which I calibrated, yes?

I’m talking about the settings in the Print dialog box.

NO!!!!!

The Working Space Profile is the Working Space Profile, and was "tagged" onto the Image File when that was last saved. It will most probably be sRGB or Adobe RGB.

The Monitor Profile is what Photoshop uses to give an accurate display on screeen, and has NOTHING to do with Printing.

Have another read up on Colour Management. You will find a range of Workflows on

http://tech.epson.com.au/downloads/

which you should be able to use, (with slight adjustments), even for your printer.

Roy G

Ah thanks, that was very helpful. So I need to be aware of 3 profiles – Embedded profile embedded onto the pic, which in my case are AdobeRGB now, and sRGB for older pics (I shoot n RAW) – Monitor or display profile, which are my h/w calibration settings; PS loads these automagically, or I can load them from the Edit-> color settings menu
– Printer/paper profile(s) for my printer/paper combo, which I use when printing

When I open a pic in PS and get a dialog box that says "Embedded profile (AdobeRGB) does not match working profile (Monitor Profile)", I choose to use the embedded profile, correct?

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"Net Doe" wrote in message

I calibrated my monitor and printer. I still have non-close-matching image and prints. So I have a couple of quenstions.

– When printing from PS, I choose "manage by photoshop"; do I use the Printer Profile as "Working profile" (monitor profile) or the ICC
profile for the pinter/paper I use? I used the latter. I used the other
settings recommended by my PS reference books.
– I set the printer color mgmt to "Managed by appl"; do I set the paper
type to "Automatic" or the paper I use (HP Photo Premium, for example).

Thanks!

No, you don’t use the Printer Profile as the Working (Space) Profile, nor do you use it for the Monitor Profile.

The Working Space Profile should be one of the available Working Space Profiles – sRGB, Adobe RGB, Pro Photo RGB, etc.

Yes, you do still set the paper type in the printer driver, even though you have told the printer not to Colour Manage. You should also have done exactly the same when you were printing your test patches for Calibrating. If you didn’t that could be the cause of your mismatches.
BUT no matter how careful you are there will almost always be a slight mismatch due to the fact that the on-screen display uses transmitted light, and prints use reflected light.

Roy G

No, I set my PS working space to my monitor custom profile, which I calibrated, yes?

I’m talking about the settings in the Print dialog box.

NO!!!!!

The Working Space Profile is the Working Space Profile, and was "tagged" onto the Image File when that was last saved. It will most probably be sRGB or Adobe RGB.

The Monitor Profile is what Photoshop uses to give an accurate display on screeen, and has NOTHING to do with Printing.

Have another read up on Colour Management. You will find a range of Workflows on

http://tech.epson.com.au/downloads/

which you should be able to use, (with slight adjustments), even for your printer.

Roy G

Ah thanks, that was very helpful. So I need to be aware of 3 profiles – Embedded profile embedded onto the pic, which in my case are AdobeRGB now, and sRGB for older pics (I shoot n RAW) – Monitor or display profile, which are my h/w calibration settings; PS loads these automagically, or I can load them from the Edit-> color settings menu
– Printer/paper profile(s) for my printer/paper combo, which I use when printing

When I open a pic in PS and get a dialog box that says "Embedded profile (AdobeRGB) does not match working profile (Monitor Profile)", I choose to use the embedded profile, correct?

As I said you do need to read up a bit more on CM.

You have obviously got PS set up incorrectly if its Working Space Profile shows as the Monitor Profile, in the Image Missmatch Profile Dialogue.

You need to select a sensible RGB Working Space Profile, sRGB, Adobe RGB, or Pro Photo RGB, (depending upon the gamut of your inks), in the "Colour Settings" Dialogue.

Roy G

I have a dual boot XP Pro/Vista Ultimate 64 bit with an epson 3800 printer, 4GB of Ram, Nec 2690 and run photoshop CS2 on Xp Pro and CS3 on windows Vita Ultimate.

I have no color management problems when printing with my Xp Pro partition with CS2. As for printing accurately on my Windows Vista 64 bit Ultimate it is absolutely hopeless – IMHO photoshop CS3 on Windows Vista 64 is a dog, a waste of time and money!!

Yes, I know all about colour management etc.

I will format my windows vista 64 bit – as its wasting disk space.

There are some people whom have had printing problems on CS3 also….search the adobe threads for them.

Cheers

Ron

"Net Doe" wrote in message

I calibrated my monitor and printer. I still have non-close-matching image and prints. So I have a couple of quenstions.

– When printing from PS, I choose "manage by photoshop"; do I use the Printer Profile as "Working profile" (monitor profile) or the ICC profile for the pinter/paper I use? I used the latter. I used the other settings recommended by my PS reference books.
– I set the printer color mgmt to "Managed by appl"; do I set the paper type to "Automatic" or the paper I use (HP Photo Premium, for example).
Thanks!