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Kokoro
Jan 10, 2005
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For Photoshop work, but the machine does play games and dvds ^_^. People keep saying get an LCD, and I’d like to, but price to perforamce, its not worth it in my opinion.

Price is a factor. Ive been looking at getting a Iiyama VM Pro 454. But

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Donald Link
Jan 11, 2005
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:46:21 GMT, Kokoro
wrote:

For Photoshop work, but the machine does play games and dvds ^_^. People keep saying get an LCD, and I’d like to, but price to perforamce, its not worth it in my opinion.

Price is a factor. Ive been looking at getting a Iiyama VM Pro 454. But £245 is the apsolute maximum I can fork out at the moment. Iiyama also have a VM Pro 455 which is also 19" and cheaper but I cant find any information that it uses the same internals as the 455, according to the Iiyama website both monitors are different and the 454 is the better. The 454 also comes with built-in speakers and a usb hub which I’d find useless.
Are there any other monitors worth looking at in this price range? However, when ive asked questions like this before, people tend to jump in saying their monitor is better or you should buy this name brand. Can you please answer with facts why a particular monitor is a better bet than, say a Iiyama VM Pro 454. Chances are, because of the price, I’ll have to buy a 455 though.

Thanks, I look forward to your suggestions

Kokoro
I agree with your decision to buy the CRT instead of the LCD. At the present time, even though LCDs are getting bigger, better, and cheaper they do not come close to a good true flat screen monitor, most oftern a Sony tube. I think a good name brand monitor 21 inch of recent vintage, even used, are are the better buy by a long shot. I see you are not in the USA so I am not sure about customs and shipping, but every monitor I have purchased has been thru Ebay and I make sure of a local pickup from a reputable seller. If you look around where you are located you will find some really outstanding big monitors that are very economical since so many people are going to the LCDs.

One monitor you should not exclude is a monitor made for the PC by SUN Microsystem. I have 2 21 inch monitors and they have all the bells and whistles you could imagine. They are very flat screen and the high resolutions and refresh rates you will not believe. Then again I also have a Compaq that is also outstanding.
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Hecate
Jan 11, 2005
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:46:21 GMT, Kokoro
wrote:

For Photoshop work, but the machine does play games and dvds ^_^. People keep saying get an LCD, and I’d like to, but price to perforamce, its not worth it in my opinion.

Price is a factor. Ive been looking at getting a Iiyama VM Pro 454. But £245 is the apsolute maximum I can fork out at the moment. Iiyama also have a VM Pro 455 which is also 19" and cheaper but I cant find any information that it uses the same internals as the 455, according to the Iiyama website both monitors are different and the 454 is the better. The 454 also comes with built-in speakers and a usb hub which I’d find useless.
Are there any other monitors worth looking at in this price range? However, when ive asked questions like this before, people tend to jump in saying their monitor is better or you should buy this name brand. Can you please answer with facts why a particular monitor is a better bet than, say a Iiyama VM Pro 454. Chances are, because of the price, I’ll have to buy a 455 though.

Thanks, I look forward to your suggestions
The Iiyama is an excellent monitor. I’m using one myself. You say you can afford a max of £245. Well, I don’t know where you’ve been looking but you can get one for £243.98 inc VAT from www.dabs.com or £229 inc VAT from www.simply.co.uk

Hope that helps



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mono
Jan 11, 2005
The Iiyama is an excellent monitor. I’m using one myself. You say you can afford a max of £245. Well, I don’t know where you’ve been
looking
but you can get one for £243.98 inc VAT from www.dabs.com or £229
inc
VAT from www.simply.co.uk

Hope that helps



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Any insight on why the 455 wouldn’t be a better buy for someone not needing/wanting the speakers and USB hub? At £150 it’s on my shortlist for a second monitor.

Brian
(the other one)
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Hecate
Jan 13, 2005
On 11 Jan 2005 15:08:33 -0800, "mono" wrote:

The Iiyama is an excellent monitor. I’m using one myself. You say you can afford a max of £245. Well, I don’t know where you’ve been
looking
but you can get one for £243.98 inc VAT from www.dabs.com or £229
inc
VAT from www.simply.co.uk

Hope that helps



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Any insight on why the 455 wouldn’t be a better buy for someone not needing/wanting the speakers and USB hub? At £150 it’s on my shortlist for a second monitor.
The monitor quality is excellent for the 454. The monitor quality is average for the 455. You’re not paying for the extras, you’re paying for the display quality.



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Dadio
Jan 16, 2005
I have used the Iiyama monitors for many years. It is essential to go for models with Diamondtron tubes (Pro). The guarantee is excellent and their after sales on-site swap out service really does work, all credit to them (in Stevenage, Herts.).

But….

There are issues, with colour calibrating Iiyama monitors with Gretag Macbeth Eye One spectrophotometer which I don’t think have been resolved. After finding it impossible to get a "perfect" monitor to print match using Monaco then DDI and then finally Eye One monitor and finally finally Eye One Photo it transpired that there was "something" about the Iiyama monitors that was causing the problem (profiled too red).

Now I use a Lacie 19" IV and the problem has gone away. My understanding is that the monitor to go for should be using a Mitsubishi Diamondtron tube. Certainly The Iiyama 455 around
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Hecate
Jan 16, 2005
On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:25:55 GMT, "Dadio" wrote:

I have used the Iiyama monitors for many years. It is essential to go for models with Diamondtron tubes (Pro). The guarantee is excellent and their after sales on-site swap out service really does work, all credit to them (in Stevenage, Herts.).

But….

There are issues, with colour calibrating Iiyama monitors with Gretag Macbeth Eye One spectrophotometer which I don’t think have been resolved. After finding it impossible to get a "perfect" monitor to print match using Monaco then DDI and then finally Eye One monitor and finally finally Eye One Photo it transpired that there was "something" about the Iiyama monitors that was causing the problem (profiled too red).
Interestingly enough, I haven’t had a problem with EyeOne and a VM Pro 454.



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Graeme Cogger
Jan 16, 2005
There was a problem using the GretagMacbeth products (i1 Match as part of i1 Display, i1 Photo etc.) with certain monitors, that caused them to profile too red. I had this on my Iiyama screen a while ago. That problem has been fixed – if the version you tried was using full screen mode for the final profiling, then that was certainly the issue. The ‘fixed’ version has a step to find where on the screen the puck has been placed, and then uses small colour patches for the profiling. (The monitor behaved differently in full-screen mode than it normally would).

HTH
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Hecate
Jan 18, 2005
On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:34:45 -0000, Graeme Cogger
wrote:

There was a problem using the GretagMacbeth products (i1 Match as part of i1 Display, i1 Photo etc.) with certain monitors, that caused them to profile too red. I had this on my Iiyama screen a while ago. That problem has been fixed – if the version you tried was using full screen mode for the final profiling, then that was certainly the issue. The ‘fixed’ version has a step to find where on the screen the puck has been placed, and then uses small colour patches for the profiling. (The monitor behaved differently in full-screen mode than it normally would).

HTH

Thanks. That explains it. 🙂



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