What Graphics Tablet ?

On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 20:50:59 GMT, "Dr Hackenbush" wrote:

Looking to buy a tablet and would like some recommendations. Budget doesnt run to a Wacom, so i was looking at the TRUST 400, Medion, and also saw Aiptek.
The Trust is looking good at the moment, can get a new one del. for £44, wonder if you have any views, or suggestions

Thanks

Save up for a Wacom Graphire. All the other will work but have, comparatively, terrible build quality and you’ll find they won’t last too long before you have to buy another one.

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Hecate wrote:

On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 20:50:59 GMT, "Dr Hackenbush" wrote:

Looking to buy a tablet and would like some recommendations. Budget doesnt run to a Wacom, so i was looking at the TRUST 400, Medion, and also saw Aiptek.
The Trust is looking good at the moment, can get a new one del. for £44, wonder if you have any views, or suggestions

Thanks

Save up for a Wacom Graphire. All the other will work but have, comparatively, terrible build quality and you’ll find they won’t last too long before you have to buy another one.

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I have a couple of "Wacom Intuos" (mark 1) tablets and I have NEVER regreted the investment. They are superb. I really want to upgrade to an Intuos 3 soon as I have saved some money!

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Dr Hackenbush wrote:

Looking to buy a tablet and would like some recommendations. Budget doesnt run to a Wacom, so i was looking at the TRUST 400, Medion, and also saw Aiptek.
The Trust is looking good at the moment, can get a new one del. for £44, wonder if you have any views, or suggestions

Thanks

When you buy a pencil, if you buy a cheap one, you can’t get consistent results and your drawings will suffer because the lead often keeps breaking for no reason because it was smaller to make it cheaper.

When you buy a Wacom tablet you get the choice of size to lower the price. There is no lesser quality, just smaller work area. If on the other hand you buy a larger (non Wacom) tablet, you still may not have the functionality of the Wacom and you will have spent some of the money you should be saving until you get enough for the Wacom!

Oh, did I mention you should beg, borrow or steal a Wacom tablet if you can’t buy one? It’s true. Third time lucky. We can’t all be wrong.

Doug

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Looking to buy a tablet and would like some recommendations. Budget doesnt run to a Wacom, so i was looking at the TRUST 400, Medion, and also saw Aiptek.
The Trust is looking good at the moment, can get a new one del. for

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On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 20:50:59 GMT, "Dr Hackenbush" wrote:

Looking to buy a tablet and would like some recommendations. Budget doesnt run to a Wacom, so i was looking at the TRUST 400, Medion, and also saw Aiptek.
The Trust is looking good at the moment, can get a new one del. for

I got a Medion tablet from an ALDI store in the UK for

If I am not in error, you can get a 4×5 Wacom for under $100.00 USD. When I first got mine it was worth giving up the ale/pints. The Wacom permitted me to make more money in the long run so I could get something for my honey who is also my CFO.
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Looking to buy a tablet and would like some recommendations. Budget doesnt run to a Wacom, so i was looking at the TRUST 400,

Medion,

and also saw Aiptek.
The Trust is looking good at the moment, can get a new one del. for

Dr Hackenbush wrote:

Looking to buy a tablet and would like some recommendations. Budget doesnt run to a Wacom, so i was looking at the TRUST 400, Medion, and also saw Aiptek.
The Trust is looking good at the moment, can get a new one del. for £44, wonder if you have any views, or suggestions

Thanks

Not sure of the exchange rates theses days but since if the $ is still worth close to crap, this should be cheap for rich Europeans: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=83 -100-011&depa=0 (newegg is a very reliable company)

Stephan

On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:26:09 GMT, Stephan wrote:

Dr Hackenbush wrote:

Looking to buy a tablet and would like some recommendations. Budget doesnt run to a Wacom, so i was looking at the TRUST 400, Medion, and also saw Aiptek.
The Trust is looking good at the moment, can get a new one del. for £44, wonder if you have any views, or suggestions

Thanks

Not sure of the exchange rates theses days but since if the $ is still worth close to crap, this should be cheap for rich Europeans: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=83 -100-011&depa=0 (newegg is a very reliable company)

The problem with buying from the US, unless you actually go there and buy it, is you pay import duty and VAT which often kills any savings made from buying from the US. I want to buy a Canon 20D, but the only way to avoid the import duty is to actually go to the US and buy it. Then, it makes economic sense and the cost of flying to the US is much less than the saving made by buying the camera.

Yes, it’s crazy 🙂

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Not sure of the exchange rates theses days but since if the $ is still worth close to crap, this should be cheap for rich Europeans: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=83 -100-011&depa=0 (newegg is a very reliable company)

Stephan

That’s what I was gonna suggest.
I don’t know anything about the other tablets mentioned, but…yeah…dat’s da one I got. Works great.
Can’t get any cheaper than that I don’t think. If ya can…it must be a toy. Only thing is mine is a Graphire from a few yrs. ago, and it came in different colors. Do they only come in blue with those sickeningly happy people’s faces on them now…?

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In article <R%cKd.2883$

says…

Not sure of the exchange rates theses days but since if the $ is still worth close to crap, this should be cheap for rich Europeans:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=83 -100-011&depa=0

(newegg is a very reliable company)

Stephan

That’s what I was gonna suggest.
I don’t know anything about the other tablets mentioned,

but…yeah…dat’s da one I got.

Works great.
Can’t get any cheaper than that I don’t think. If ya can…it must be a

toy.

Only thing is mine is a Graphire from a few yrs. ago, and it came in

different colors.

Do they only come in blue with those sickeningly happy people’s faces on

them now…?

Graphire3 4" x 5" currently retailing on special until Jan 31 at Office Works in Oz for $AUS99. That’s about $US76 and

Hunt wrote:

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On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 20:50:59 GMT, "Dr Hackenbush" wrote:

Looking to buy a tablet and would like some recommendations. Budget doesnt run to a Wacom, so i was looking at the TRUST 400, Medion, and also saw Aiptek.
The Trust is looking good at the moment, can get a new one del. for £44, wonder if you have any views, or suggestions

Thanks

Save up for a Wacom Graphire. All the other will work but have, comparatively, terrible build quality and you’ll find they won’t last too long before you have to buy another one.

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Though someone recently posted a positive review of their Aiptek, most users of "other" tablets either quit using them, or finally go to Wacom. Have you looked at the Wacom "refurb" tablets on www.wacom.com? I agree with Hecate, that the Wacom is the way to go. Why not buy your last tablet first? I understand budgets, but is it good fiscal practice to buy up to what you " really" need?

Hunt

I support Hunt’s view

If you can go wacom even if it takes a while longer before owning it go wacom

On some things buying budget merely defers (IMHO) buying good kit

You may be able to optimise your spend – say wacom and apps depending on what offers are on at the time

Hint: academic

Aerticeus

Hecate wrote:

The problem with buying from the US, unless you actually go there and buy it, is you pay import duty and VAT which often kills any savings made from buying from the US. I want to buy a Canon 20D, but the only way to avoid the import duty is to actually go to the US and buy it. Then, it makes economic sense and the cost of flying to the US is much less than the saving made by buying the camera.

Yes, it’s crazy 🙂

Hey Hecate…
I just bought some gear in the US. I had a friend buy it and post it to me as a ‘present’. Sure I’m in Australia but the saving was about 20% in including the saving of 10% on GST. What about the VAT? Can you avoid it for a gift? I can buy a 20D in Australia for $2460 AUD. Do your sums, if you can see buying it here and getting it as a gift, is cheaper than buying it in the UK… My company has the facilities to buy one for you and ‘give’ it to you.

Doug

Hey Hecate…
I just bought some gear in the US. I had a friend buy it and post it to me as a ‘present’. Sure I’m in Australia but the saving was about 20% in including the saving of 10% on GST. What about the VAT? Can you avoid it for a gift? I can buy a 20D in Australia for $2460 AUD. Do your sums, if you can see buying it here and getting it as a gift, is cheaper than buying it in the UK… My company has the facilities to buy one for you and ‘give’ it to you.

Doug

Hey Hecate…
It is very obvious that your post does not past via the South African postal ‘services’. You would have bought the ‘present’ for a postal worker if that was the case:-(((
(not saying that he would have known wat it is)

Dave

The problem with buying from the US, unless you actually go there and buy it, is you pay import duty and VAT which often kills any savings made from buying from the US. I want to buy a Canon 20D, but the only way to avoid the import duty is to actually go to the US and buy it. Then, it makes economic sense and the cost of flying to the US is much less than the saving made by buying the camera.

Don’t you have family or friends in the US?
The way to go is to have the body alone sent to you and the accessories and documents in a separate package.This way it doesn’t appear like it is brand new, coming right out of the store.

Stephan

On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 20:06:25 +1000, Ryadia wrote:

Hecate wrote:

The problem with buying from the US, unless you actually go there and buy it, is you pay import duty and VAT which often kills any savings made from buying from the US. I want to buy a Canon 20D, but the only way to avoid the import duty is to actually go to the US and buy it. Then, it makes economic sense and the cost of flying to the US is much less than the saving made by buying the camera.

Yes, it’s crazy 🙂

Hey Hecate…
I just bought some gear in the US. I had a friend buy it and post it to me as a ‘present’. Sure I’m in Australia but the saving was about 20% in including the saving of 10% on GST. What about the VAT? Can you avoid it for a gift? I can buy a 20D in Australia for $2460 AUD. Do your sums, if you can see buying it here and getting it as a gift, is cheaper than buying it in the UK… My company has the facilities to buy one for you and ‘give’ it to you.

LOL! The problem is the VAT at 17.5%. It can’t be avoided and is charged on all goods entering the EU.

Thank you very much for your kind offer though. I’ll take it under consideration, but I think I’d likely get descended upon by our Customs who are very keen on squeezing every last penny out of law-abiding citizens whilst not having the time to check out the latest terrorist arrvig9ing through the airport with a bag load of Semtex. 🙂

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On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 20:28:39 +0200, Dave wrote:

Hey Hecate…
I just bought some gear in the US. I had a friend buy it and post it to me as a ‘present’. Sure I’m in Australia but the saving was about 20% in including the saving of 10% on GST. What about the VAT? Can you avoid it for a gift? I can buy a 20D in Australia for $2460 AUD. Do your sums, if you can see buying it here and getting it as a gift, is cheaper than buying it in the UK… My company has the facilities to buy one for you and ‘give’ it to you.

Doug

Hey Hecate…
It is very obvious that your post does not past via the South African postal ‘services’. You would have bought the ‘present’ for a postal worker if that was the case:-(((
(not saying that he would have known wat it is)

LOL! Our Customs is basically a money-making exercise for whomever are the current idiots in power. 🙂

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On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:04:34 GMT, Stephan wrote:

The problem with buying from the US, unless you actually go there and buy it, is you pay import duty and VAT which often kills any savings made from buying from the US. I want to buy a Canon 20D, but the only way to avoid the import duty is to actually go to the US and buy it. Then, it makes economic sense and the cost of flying to the US is much less than the saving made by buying the camera.

Don’t you have family or friends in the US?
The way to go is to have the body alone sent to you and the accessories and documents in a separate package.This way it doesn’t appear like it is brand new, coming right out of the store.

Hmmm. Now I hadn’t thought it quite through. We do have a friend in the US, living in Boston.

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Hecate wrote:

Thank you very much for your kind offer though. I’ll take it under consideration, but I think I’d likely get descended upon by our Customs who are very keen on squeezing every last penny out of law-abiding citizens whilst not having the time to check out the latest terrorist arrvig9ing through the airport with a bag load of Semtex. 🙂

So if I understand you correctly, they should be allowed to take their Semtex into the country as long as they pay VAT and import duty on it? 😉

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Hecate wrote:

On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:04:34 GMT, Stephan wrote:

The problem with buying from the US, unless you actually go there and buy it, is you pay import duty and VAT which often kills any savings made from buying from the US. I want to buy a Canon 20D, but the only way to avoid the import duty is to actually go to the US and buy it. Then, it makes economic sense and the cost of flying to the US is much less than the saving made by buying the camera.

Don’t you have family or friends in the US?
The way to go is to have the body alone sent to you and the accessories and documents in a separate package.This way it doesn’t appear like it is brand new, coming right out of the store.

Hmmm. Now I hadn’t thought it quite through. We do have a friend in the US, living in Boston.

You have a friend in Hawaii also but it’s much further than Boston! Stephan

Stephan wrote:

Hecate wrote:

On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:04:34 GMT, Stephan wrote:

The problem with buying from the US, unless you actually go there and buy it, is you pay import duty and VAT which often kills any savings made from buying from the US. I want to buy a Canon 20D, but the only way to avoid the import duty is to actually go to the US and buy it. Then, it makes economic sense and the cost of flying to the US is much less than the saving made by buying the camera.

Don’t you have family or friends in the US?
The way to go is to have the body alone sent to you and the accessories and documents in a separate package.This way it doesn’t appear like it is brand new, coming right out of the store.

Hmmm. Now I hadn’t thought it quite through. We do have a friend in the US, living in Boston.

You have a friend in Hawaii also but it’s much further than Boston! Stephan

Me too, here in California. Hecate has a chain of friends in the US. —

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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 11:08:36 +0100, (Johan W.
Elzenga) wrote:

Hecate wrote:

Thank you very much for your kind offer though. I’ll take it under consideration, but I think I’d likely get descended upon by our Customs who are very keen on squeezing every last penny out of law-abiding citizens whilst not having the time to check out the latest terrorist arrvig9ing through the airport with a bag load of Semtex. 🙂

So if I understand you correctly, they should be allowed to take their Semtex into the country as long as they pay VAT and import duty on it? 😉

Absolutely 😉

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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 20:49:21 GMT, Stephan wrote:

Hecate wrote:

On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:04:34 GMT, Stephan wrote:

The problem with buying from the US, unless you actually go there and buy it, is you pay import duty and VAT which often kills any savings made from buying from the US. I want to buy a Canon 20D, but the only way to avoid the import duty is to actually go to the US and buy it. Then, it makes economic sense and the cost of flying to the US is much less than the saving made by buying the camera.

Don’t you have family or friends in the US?
The way to go is to have the body alone sent to you and the accessories and documents in a separate package.This way it doesn’t appear like it is brand new, coming right out of the store.

Hmmm. Now I hadn’t thought it quite through. We do have a friend in the US, living in Boston.

You have a friend in Hawaii also but it’s much further than Boston! Stephan

LOL! Thanks Stephan. I shall have to seriously think about this now. 🙂

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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 00:52:15 GMT, "Mike Russell" wrote:

Stephan wrote:

Hecate wrote:

On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:04:34 GMT, Stephan wrote:

The problem with buying from the US, unless you actually go there and buy it, is you pay import duty and VAT which often kills any savings made from buying from the US. I want to buy a Canon 20D, but the only way to avoid the import duty is to actually go to the US and buy it. Then, it makes economic sense and the cost of flying to the US is much less than the saving made by buying the camera.

Don’t you have family or friends in the US?
The way to go is to have the body alone sent to you and the accessories and documents in a separate package.This way it doesn’t appear like it is brand new, coming right out of the store.

Hmmm. Now I hadn’t thought it quite through. We do have a friend in the US, living in Boston.

You have a friend in Hawaii also but it’s much further than Boston! Stephan

Me too, here in California. Hecate has a chain of friends in the US.

Wow! Thank you too. It’s nice to know who your friends are <g>

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Hecate wrote:

On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:04:34 GMT, Stephan wrote:

The problem with buying from the US, unless you actually go there and buy it, is you pay import duty and VAT which often kills any savings made from buying from the US. I want to buy a Canon 20D, but the only way to avoid the import duty is to actually go to the US and buy it. Then, it makes economic sense and the cost of flying to the US is much less than the saving made by buying the camera.

Don’t you have family or friends in the US?
The way to go is to have the body alone sent to you and the accessories and documents in a separate package.This way it doesn’t appear like it is brand new, coming right out of the store.

Hmmm. Now I hadn’t thought it quite through. We do have a friend in the US, living in Boston.

You have a friend in Hawaii also but it’s much further than Boston! Stephan

hi guys… ;-))))))).

I’m much closer TO Boston.

Whatcha been up to?

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On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 16:03:42 -0500, "Sally Beacham" wrote:

Don’t you have family or friends in the US?
The way to go is to have the body alone sent to you and the accessories and documents in a separate package.This way it doesn’t appear like it is brand new, coming right out of the store.

Hmmm. Now I hadn’t thought it quite through. We do have a friend in the US, living in Boston.

You have a friend in Hawaii also but it’s much further than Boston! Stephan

hi guys… ;-))))))).

I’m much closer TO Boston.

Whatcha been up to?

Hey Sally!

Nice to see you back 🙂

We were just discussing how I can get a cheap Canon 20D given that there’s almost $2 to the £-)

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Sally Beacham wrote:

Whatcha been up to?

Where have you been?
Such a long time!

Stephan

"Hecate" wrote in message

On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 16:03:42 -0500, "Sally Beacham" wrote:

Don’t you have family or friends in the US?
The way to go is to have the body alone sent to you and the

accessories

and documents in a separate package.This way it doesn’t appear like

it

is brand new, coming right out of the store.

Hmmm. Now I hadn’t thought it quite through. We do have a friend in the US, living in Boston.

You have a friend in Hawaii also but it’s much further than Boston! Stephan

hi guys… ;-))))))).

I’m much closer TO Boston.

Whatcha been up to?

Hey Sally!

Nice to see you back 🙂

We were just discussing how I can get a cheap Canon 20D given that there’s almost $2 to the

"Stephan" wrote in message

Sally Beacham wrote:

Whatcha been up to?

Where have you been?
Such a long time!

Stephan

Been writing, and working, and haunting Corel… shhhhhhhhhhhhhh… well you know. Been travelling, I think I dropped a love note to you over Hawaii when I went to NZ/Oz in September.

Remodeling my house now, for months it seems, not living at home so I feel like I’m permanently on the road. This laptop life is no fun, I want my Systemax back!

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Been writing, and working, and haunting Corel… shhhhhhhhhhhhhh… well you know. Been travelling, I think I dropped a love note to you over Hawaii when I went to NZ/Oz in September.

You should have signed it, do you have any idea how many of these I get ?

Hecate wrote:

snip<

Since this thread seems to become our private one:
Did you get the mail I sent you and Mike (Russel)?
Haven’t heard back from any of you so I wonder…

Stephan

On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 22:51:26 -0500, "Sally Beacham" wrote:

hi guys… ;-))))))).

I’m much closer TO Boston.

Whatcha been up to?

Hey Sally!

Nice to see you back 🙂

We were just discussing how I can get a cheap Canon 20D given that there’s almost $2 to the £-)

Sell yourself on the street next to the photography shop?
No, we already tried that. I think we scored a disposable.

I told you that skirt was *way* too long….

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On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 18:52:47 GMT, Stephan wrote:

Hecate wrote:

snip<

Since this thread seems to become our private one:
Did you get the mail I sent you and Mike (Russel)?
Haven’t heard back from any of you so I wonder…

You sent it with a dead address (as above). I replied to you with your rr address, and gave the same addy to Mike. Have you changed your mail addy?

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On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 18:50:45 GMT, Stephan wrote:

Been writing, and working, and haunting Corel… shhhhhhhhhhhhhh… well you know. Been travelling, I think I dropped a love note to you over Hawaii when I went to NZ/Oz in September.

You should have signed it, do you have any idea how many of these I get ?

Stephan, those mails concerning penis size aren’t love letters…

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"Stephan" wrote in message

Been writing, and working, and haunting Corel… shhhhhhhhhhhhhh… well

you

know. Been travelling, I think I dropped a love note to you over Hawaii when I went to NZ/Oz in September.

You should have signed it, do you have any idea how many of these I get ?

Yeah, but you should have recognized my lipstick.

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"Hecate" wrote in message

On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 18:50:45 GMT, Stephan wrote:

Been writing, and working, and haunting Corel… shhhhhhhhhhhhhh…

well you

know. Been travelling, I think I dropped a love note to you over

Hawaii

when I went to NZ/Oz in September.

You should have signed it, do you have any idea how many of these I get ?

Stephan, those mails concerning penis size aren’t love letters…

YEAH, they are!

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www.dizteq.com / www.lvsonline.com
Paint Shop Pro, Digital Scrapbooking
http://register.lvsonline.com/index.php?cPath=4

"Hecate" wrote in message

On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 22:51:26 -0500, "Sally Beacham" wrote:

hi guys… ;-))))))).

I’m much closer TO Boston.

Whatcha been up to?

Hey Sally!

Nice to see you back 🙂

We were just discussing how I can get a cheap Canon 20D given that there’s almost $2 to the

Sally Beacham wrote:

"Hecate" wrote in message

On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 18:50:45 GMT, Stephan wrote:

Been writing, and working, and haunting Corel… shhhhhhhhhhhhhh…

well you

know. Been travelling, I think I dropped a love note to you over

Hawaii

when I went to NZ/Oz in September.

You should have signed it, do you have any idea how many of these I get ?

Stephan, those mails concerning penis size aren’t love letters…

YEAH, they are!

You’re right, they are!

Hecate wrote:

On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 18:52:47 GMT, Stephan wrote:

Hecate wrote:

snip<

Since this thread seems to become our private one:
Did you get the mail I sent you and Mike (Russel)?
Haven’t heard back from any of you so I wonder…

You sent it with a dead address (as above). I replied to you with your rr address, and gave the same addy to Mike. Have you changed your mail addy?

I’ll mail you with an OK addy so you have the latest one.

Sally Beacham wrote:

"Stephan" wrote in message

Been writing, and working, and haunting Corel… shhhhhhhhhhhhhh… well

you

know. Been travelling, I think I dropped a love note to you over Hawaii when I went to NZ/Oz in September.

You should have signed it, do you have any idea how many of these I get ?

Yeah, but you should have recognized my lipstick.

Ah, yes…the lipstick…souvenirs….

Sally Beacham wrote:

"Stephan" wrote in message

Hecate wrote:

On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:04:34 GMT, Stephan wrote:

The problem with buying from the US, unless you actually go there and buy it, is you pay import duty and VAT which often kills any savings made from buying from the US. I want to buy a Canon 20D, but the only way to avoid the import duty is to actually go to the US and buy it. Then, it makes economic sense and the cost of flying to the US is much less than the saving made by buying the camera.

Don’t you have family or friends in the US?
The way to go is to have the body alone sent to you and the accessories and documents in a separate package.This way it doesn’t appear like it is brand new, coming right out of the store.

Hmmm. Now I hadn’t thought it quite through. We do have a friend in the US, living in Boston.

You have a friend in Hawaii also but it’s much further than Boston! Stephan

hi guys… ;-))))))).

I’m much closer TO Boston.

Whatcha been up to?

Hi Sally. Nice to hear from another human in this virtual mud wrestling match of a Usenet. Thge temp is in the 70’s and 80’s here in Berkeley. I’ve been writing code, teaching the curves class, photographing birds, and trying to email Stephan to tell him about some great photos he’s done. —

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On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 21:24:49 -0500, "Sally Beacham" wrote:

Sell yourself on the street next to the photography shop?
No, we already tried that. I think we scored a disposable.

I told you that skirt was *way* too long….

What do you think I’d have to wear to get a 20D? I mean, besides somebody ELSE’S body?

I’m sure your body’s fine.

How a bout some Victoria’s Secret under a trench coat (with the buttons conveniently undone)? 😉

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Mike Russell wrote:

Hi Sally. Nice to hear from another human in this virtual mud wrestling match of a Usenet. Thge temp is in the 70’s and 80’s here in Berkeley. I’ve been writing code, teaching the curves class, photographing birds, and trying to email Stephan to tell him about some great photos he’s done.

Human? Sally?
I sent you a "stephan in Hawaii" mail through your website.

Stephan

"Hecate" wrote in message

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 21:24:49 -0500, "Sally Beacham" wrote:

Sell yourself on the street next to the photography shop?
No, we already tried that. I think we scored a disposable.

I told you that skirt was *way* too long….

What do you think I’d have to wear to get a 20D? I mean, besides

somebody

ELSE’S body?

I’m sure your body’s fine.

You missed your play… you were supposed to say "38 D’s get 20D’s."

hehehehehehehehhe…

How a bout some Victoria’s Secret under a trench coat (with the buttons conveniently undone)? 😉

How ’bout Walmart Big Butt panties under a ratty old bathrobe? That doesn’t work?

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Sally Beacham
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"Mike Russell" wrote in message

Sally Beacham wrote:

"Stephan" wrote in message

Hecate wrote:

On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:04:34 GMT, Stephan wrote:

The problem with buying from the US, unless you actually go there and buy it, is you pay import duty and VAT which often kills any savings made from buying from the US. I want to buy a Canon 20D, but the only way to avoid the import duty is to actually go to the US and buy it. Then, it makes economic sense and the cost of flying to the US is much less than the saving made by buying the camera.

Don’t you have family or friends in the US?
The way to go is to have the body alone sent to you and the accessories and documents in a separate package.This way it doesn’t appear like it is brand new, coming right out of the store.

Hmmm. Now I hadn’t thought it quite through. We do have a friend in the US, living in Boston.

You have a friend in Hawaii also but it’s much further than Boston! Stephan

hi guys… ;-))))))).

I’m much closer TO Boston.

Whatcha been up to?

Hi Sally. Nice to hear from another human in this virtual mud wrestling match of a Usenet. Thge temp is in the 70’s and 80’s here in Berkeley. I’ve been writing code, teaching the curves class, photographing birds,

and

trying to email Stephan to tell him about some great photos he’s done.

Oh my lord… well it’s been 40 here the last two days in Maine and unseasonably warm and sunny. I don’t have time (nor the talent) to take great photos, but I did get kind of a cool shot of a sundog a month or so ago. Too bad no binaries here.

GO PATS!

Sorry, I’m in football mode today.

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Mike Russell
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"Stephan" wrote in message

Mike Russell wrote:

Hi Sally. Nice to hear from another human in this virtual mud wrestling match of a Usenet. Thge temp is in the 70’s and 80’s here in Berkeley. I’ve been writing code, teaching the curves class, photographing birds,

and

trying to email Stephan to tell him about some great photos he’s done.

Human? Sally?

/me raises an eyebrow at The French Guy. Remember who loves ya, baby. Je suis un pussycat.

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Sally Beacham
www.dizteq.com / www.lvsonline.com
Paint Shop Pro, Digital Scrapbooking
http://register.lvsonline.com/index.php?cPath=4

On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 16:32:09 -0500, "Sally Beacham" wrote:

I’m sure your body’s fine.

You missed your play… you were supposed to say "38 D’s get 20D’s."
hehehehehehehehhe…

Damn! If I had a brain, I’d be dangerous…

How a bout some Victoria’s Secret under a trench coat (with the buttons conveniently undone)? 😉

How ’bout Walmart Big Butt panties under a ratty old bathrobe? That doesn’t work?

I’m sure you’d get the redneck community anyway…

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On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 23:08:52 GMT, Stephan wrote:

Hecate wrote:

On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 18:52:47 GMT, Stephan wrote:

Hecate wrote:

snip<

Since this thread seems to become our private one:
Did you get the mail I sent you and Mike (Russel)?
Haven’t heard back from any of you so I wonder…

You sent it with a dead address (as above). I replied to you with your rr address, and gave the same addy to Mike. Have you changed your mail addy?

I’ll mail you with an OK addy so you have the latest one.

Thankeee. Don’t forget Mike. 🙂

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On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 23:48:16 GMT, "Mike Russell" wrote:

Whatcha been up to?

Hi Sally. Nice to hear from another human in this virtual mud wrestling match of a Usenet. Thge temp is in the 70’s and 80’s here in Berkeley. I’ve been writing code, teaching the curves class, photographing birds,

With or without clothes?

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On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 16:34:33 -0500, "Sally Beacham" wrote:

Oh my lord… well it’s been 40 here the last two days in Maine and unseasonably warm and sunny. I don’t have time (nor the talent) to take great photos, but I did get kind of a cool shot of a sundog a month or so ago. Too bad no binaries here.

GO PATS!

Sorry, I’m in football mode today.

Oh, you’re in Maine? I thought all they did there was fish for lobster….Finest Kind…

GO Eagles!!!

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"Hecate" wrote in message

On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 16:34:33 -0500, "Sally Beacham" wrote:

Oh my lord… well it’s been 40 here the last two days in Maine and unseasonably warm and sunny. I don’t have time (nor the talent) to take great photos, but I did get kind of a cool shot of a sundog a month or so ago. Too bad no binaries here.

GO PATS!

Sorry, I’m in football mode today.

Oh, you’re in Maine? I thought all they did there was fish for lobster….Finest Kind…

Well, we do a couple things, but mostly we make fun of outa-staters. But we like their money, so we mostly do it behind their backs.

GO Eagles!!!

Nice try. Denied.

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Sally Beacham
www.dizteq.com / www.lvsonline.com
Paint Shop Pro, Digital Scrapbooking
http://register.lvsonline.com/index.php?cPath=4

Sally Beacham wrote:

How a bout some Victoria’s Secret under a trench coat (with the buttons conveniently undone)? 😉

How ’bout Walmart Big Butt panties under a ratty old bathrobe? That doesn’t work?

You’ll score a 1.3MP coolpix at best
Stephan

Sally Beacham wrote:

Human? Sally?

/me raises an eyebrow at The French Guy. Remember who loves ya, baby. Je suis un pussycat.

ahem… I meant divine of course, baby

Stephan

"Stephan" wrote in message

Sally Beacham wrote:

How a bout some Victoria’s Secret under a trench coat (with the buttons conveniently undone)? 😉

How ’bout Walmart Big Butt panties under a ratty old bathrobe? That

doesn’t

work?

You’ll score a 1.3MP coolpix at best
Stephan

;-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))….. well I’m already in better shape than that. Photographically speaking, of course.

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Sally Beacham
www.dizteq.com / www.lvsonline.com
Paint Shop Pro, Digital Scrapbooking
http://register.lvsonline.com/index.php?cPath=4

"Stephan" wrote in message

Sally Beacham wrote:

Human? Sally?

/me raises an eyebrow at The French Guy. Remember who loves ya, baby.

Je

suis un pussycat.

ahem… I meant divine of course, baby

Stephan

;-)))))))))))))))))) but of course.

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Sally Beacham
www.dizteq.com / www.lvsonline.com
Paint Shop Pro, Digital Scrapbooking
http://register.lvsonline.com/index.php?cPath=4

On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 23:07:35 -0500, "Sally Beacham" wrote:

GO PATS!

Sorry, I’m in football mode today.

Oh, you’re in Maine? I thought all they did there was fish for lobster….Finest Kind…

Well, we do a couple things, but mostly we make fun of outa-staters. But we like their money, so we mostly do it behind their backs.

GO Eagles!!!

Nice try. Denied.

LOL! I always go for the underdog. 🙂 Actually, I’m a Cheesehead <g>

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Hecate wrote:

On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 23:07:35 -0500, "Sally Beacham" wrote:

GO PATS!

Sorry, I’m in football mode today.

Oh, you’re in Maine? I thought all they did there was fish for lobster….Finest Kind…

Well, we do a couple things, but mostly we make fun of outa-staters. But we like their money, so we mostly do it behind their backs.

GO Eagles!!!

Nice try. Denied.

LOL! I always go for the underdog. 🙂 Actually, I’m a Cheesehead <g>

You lost me girls, are you talking about cake recipes or needle work here?

Stephan

On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 10:10:36 GMT, Stephan wrote:

Well, we do a couple things, but mostly we make fun of outa-staters. But we like their money, so we mostly do it behind their backs.

GO Eagles!!!

Nice try. Denied.

LOL! I always go for the underdog. 🙂 Actually, I’m a Cheesehead <g>

You lost me girls, are you talking about cake recipes or needle work here?

No, regulated violence 🙂

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"Stephan" wrote in message

Hecate wrote:

On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 23:07:35 -0500, "Sally Beacham" wrote:

GO PATS!

Sorry, I’m in football mode today.

Oh, you’re in Maine? I thought all they did there was fish for lobster….Finest Kind…

Well, we do a couple things, but mostly we make fun of outa-staters.

But we

like their money, so we mostly do it behind their backs.

GO Eagles!!!

Nice try. Denied.

LOL! I always go for the underdog. 🙂 Actually, I’m a Cheesehead <g>

You lost me girls, are you talking about cake recipes or needle work here?

No, muscular men in tight pants.

No, not ballet! The pants are similar but the padding’s in different places.

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Sally Beacham
www.dizteq.com / www.lvsonline.com
Paint Shop Pro, Digital Scrapbooking
http://register.lvsonline.com/index.php?cPath=4

Stephan

Hecate wrote:

No, regulated violence 🙂

You mean rugby?

Sally Beacham wrote:

No, muscular men in tight pants.

No, not ballet! The pants are similar but the padding’s in different places.

You mean American football right? The boring, mellowed down, rugby played by guys wearing ballet tights and who love to hug and pile up. Sad…

Stephan

On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 19:45:22 GMT, Stephan wrote:

Sally Beacham wrote:

No, muscular men in tight pants.

No, not ballet! The pants are similar but the padding’s in different places.

You mean American football right? The boring, mellowed down, rugby played by guys wearing ballet tights and who love to hug and pile up. Sad…

Not at all. Whereas rugby is marginally more interesting than watching paint dry, gridiron is like chess played with people. Except for the added violence of course… 😉

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"Stephan" wrote in message

Hecate wrote:

No, regulated violence 🙂

You mean rugby?

They don’t wear tight pants, they wear very short shorts. I know this. For sure.

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Sally Beacham
www.dizteq.com / www.lvsonline.com
Paint Shop Pro, Digital Scrapbooking
http://register.lvsonline.com/index.php?cPath=4

"Stephan" wrote in message

Sally Beacham wrote:

No, muscular men in tight pants.

No, not ballet! The pants are similar but the padding’s in different places.

You mean American football right? The boring, mellowed down, rugby played by guys wearing ballet tights and who love to hug and pile up.

Sad…

Stephan

/me points to Maine on the map.
/me points to Boston directly below Maine.
/me points to Gillette Stadium right outside Boston.

What, did I hear THREE TIME SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS, did I hear that? Did I hear, Adam Vinatieri’s foot should be bronzed? Did I hear, Tedy Bruschi is coming to Portland to wine and dine me and let me pat his trophy?

I can dream, can’t I?

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Sally Beacham
www.dizteq.com / www.lvsonline.com
Paint Shop Pro, Digital Scrapbooking
http://register.lvsonline.com/index.php?cPath=4

"Hecate" wrote in message

On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 19:45:22 GMT, Stephan wrote:

Sally Beacham wrote:

No, muscular men in tight pants.

No, not ballet! The pants are similar but the padding’s in different places.

You mean American football right? The boring, mellowed down, rugby played by guys wearing ballet tights and who love to hug and pile up.

Sad…

Not at all. Whereas rugby is marginally more interesting than watching paint dry, gridiron is like chess played with people. Except for the added violence of course… 😉

No, rugby IS fun, cricket is marginally more interesting than watching paint dry. It’s right up there with Bass Masters and golf on tv.

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Sally Beacham
www.dizteq.com / www.lvsonline.com
Paint Shop Pro, Digital Scrapbooking
http://register.lvsonline.com/index.php?cPath=4

Sally Beacham wrote:

Stephan

/me points to Maine on the map.
/me points to Boston directly below Maine.
/me points to Gillette Stadium right outside Boston.

What, did I hear THREE TIME SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS, did I hear that? Did I hear, Adam Vinatieri’s foot should be bronzed? Did I hear, Tedy Bruschi is coming to Portland to wine and dine me and let me pat his trophy?
I can dream, can’t I?

Now I know where you’ve been all this time we didn’t hear from you. By the sound of it we are going to miss you soon again.
Sad they don’t have internet access in psych units 😉

Stephan

On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 17:36:24 -0500, "Sally Beacham" wrote:

You mean American football right? The boring, mellowed down, rugby played by guys wearing ballet tights and who love to hug and pile up.

Sad…

Not at all. Whereas rugby is marginally more interesting than watching paint dry, gridiron is like chess played with people. Except for the added violence of course… 😉

No, rugby IS fun, cricket is marginally more interesting than watching paint dry. It’s right up there with Bass Masters and golf on tv.

No, no. Cricket is fun. It’s intelligent. It’s just that Americans don’t have the attention span…

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On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 17:35:21 -0500, "Sally Beacham" wrote:

"Stephan" wrote in message

Sally Beacham wrote:

No, muscular men in tight pants.

No, not ballet! The pants are similar but the padding’s in different places.

You mean American football right? The boring, mellowed down, rugby played by guys wearing ballet tights and who love to hug and pile up.

Sad…

Stephan

/me points to Maine on the map.
/me points to Boston directly below Maine.
/me points to Gillette Stadium right outside Boston.

What, did I hear THREE TIME SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS, did I hear that? Did I hear, Adam Vinatieri’s foot should be bronzed? Did I hear, Tedy Bruschi is coming to Portland to wine and dine me and let me pat his trophy?

Call me when they break the Packers record and win it a fourth time 😉

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The Magician wrote:

In article <R%cKd.2883$>,

says…

Not sure of the exchange rates theses days but since if the $ is

still

worth close to crap, this should be cheap for rich Europeans:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=83 -100-011&depa=0

(newegg is a very reliable company)

Stephan

That’s what I was gonna suggest.
I don’t know anything about the other tablets mentioned,

but…yeah…dat’s da one I got.

Works great.
Can’t get any cheaper than that I don’t think. If ya can…it must be

a toy.

Only thing is mine is a Graphire from a few yrs. ago, and it came in

different colors.

Do they only come in blue with those sickeningly happy people’s faces

on them now…?

The Wacom Graphire3 is available in blue, grey and white. (see www.graphire3.com) The standard underlay (with the happy people) can be changed to anything you want. The tablets comes with sample images and templates to print your own underlays.

-TG

"Stephan" wrote in message

Sally Beacham wrote:

No, muscular men in tight pants.

No, not ballet! The pants are similar but the padding’s in different places.

You mean American football right? The boring, mellowed down, rugby played by guys wearing ballet tights and who love to hug and pile up.

Sad…

Stephan

Rugby is as complicated a game as ball & jacks.