Photoshop7 vs Photoshop CS

Can anyone give me advice on the comparison of Photoshop 7 vs CS.
I’m a Photoshop user for many years, except having problems with PS7, it always crashes. Is CS alot more stable?

Thanks
Olga

Both versions are ‘stable’. Each progressive version generally requires more computing power.

Olga Chranowsky wrote:

Can anyone give me advice on the comparison of Photoshop 7 vs CS.
I’m a Photoshop user for many years, except having problems with PS7, it always crashes. Is CS alot more stable?

Thanks
Olga
olgac at videotron dot ca

I have never, to this day, had a single PhotoShop CS crash under Windows XP. If you have plenty of RAM and a fairly fast CPU it runs like a dream. I never really had issues with earlier versions either. Perhaps your machine is just a bit out of date? Bad video drivers can cause problems too.

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I have never, to this day, had a single PhotoShop CS crash under Windows XP. If you have plenty of RAM and a fairly fast CPU it runs like a dream. I never really had issues with earlier versions either. Perhaps your machine is just a bit out of date? Bad video drivers can cause problems too.

I had a crash with XP/CS the first time I used it. I found that turning off the welcome screen cured it – it was simply that I was trying to give it input before it ready and the poor thing got confused <g>

No trouble since, and never had any problems at all with 7.

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I use PS7 with a p4 2.0 MHz and 653 meg of ram on W2000 (which I think sucks).
I push ps7 ridiculously and have never had it even blink. On top of that I’ll have ps7, corel 9 and AI10 open at the same time and it still chugs along. I heard it does work even better with XP, but I haven’t had the chance to switch yet.
I’ve never used CS but I bet it would work just as well.

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Olga Chranowsky wrote:

Can anyone give me advice on the comparison of Photoshop 7 vs CS.
I’m a Photoshop user for many years, except having problems with PS7, it always crashes. Is CS alot more stable?

Thanks
Olga
olgac at videotron dot ca

I have never, to this day, had a single PhotoShop CS crash under Windows XP. If you have plenty of RAM and a fairly fast CPU it runs like a dream. I never really had issues with earlier versions either. Perhaps your machine is just a bit out of date? Bad video drivers can cause problems too.

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Thx arrooke

Olga

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Can anyone give me advice on the comparison of Photoshop 7 vs CS.
I’m a Photoshop user for many years, except having problems with PS7, it always crashes. Is CS alot more stable?

Thanks
Olga

Both versions are ‘stable’. Each progressive version generally requires more
computing power.

Thx SpaceGirl,

I’m running a Pentium 3 500, on WindowsXP.
I know my video drivers r fine, but I will check for latest updates, thx for advice.

Olga

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Olga Chranowsky wrote:

Can anyone give me advice on the comparison of Photoshop 7 vs CS.
I’m a Photoshop user for many years, except having problems with PS7, it always crashes. Is CS alot more stable?

Thanks
Olga
olgac at videotron dot ca

I have never, to this day, had a single PhotoShop CS crash under Windows XP. If you have plenty of RAM and a fairly fast CPU it runs like a dream. I never really had issues with earlier versions either. Perhaps your machine is just a bit out of date? Bad video drivers can cause problems too.

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Thx Hecate,
I’ll look into turning off the welcome screen, see if this will work for me aswell.

Do u prefer working with CS? Are there any extra features compared to PS7? My system is a Pentium3 500, running WindowsXP.

Thanks
Olga

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On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:21:12 +0000, SpaceGirl
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I have never, to this day, had a single PhotoShop CS crash under Windows XP. If you have plenty of RAM and a fairly fast CPU it runs like a dream. I never really had issues with earlier versions either. Perhaps your machine is just a bit out of date? Bad video drivers can cause problems too.

I had a crash with XP/CS the first time I used it. I found that turning off the welcome screen cured it – it was simply that I was trying to give it input before it ready and the poor thing got confused <g>

No trouble since, and never had any problems at all with 7.
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You have a relatively slow processor by PS7 standards which could be part of the problem if you are working on large files. If you also do not have enough memory Photoshop can crash doing even basic operations on large files. You also do not say how your scratch discs are set up or if you have more than one hard drive in the computer. On underpowered computers a large file might be only 10mbs.

Photoshop is an absolute reason to get a faster processor/more memory: there is an obvious benefit to not having to watch the hourglass as long or even see it. If you cannot upgrade your computer I would not get CS.

In my experience CS is not as stable as Photoshop 7, and I run it on an Athlon3200 with gobs of memory and separate hard drives for scratch discs. It routinely hiccups performing some functions and has actually crashed on occasion for unknown reasons.

However it is worth putting up with CS foibles if you are moving into digital only photography because of the tools CS has for working with raw images. Adobe hypes the other changes but they may or may not be useful to you.

"Olga Chranowsky" wrote in message

Can anyone give me advice on the comparison of Photoshop 7 vs CS.
I’m a Photoshop user for many years, except having problems with PS7, it always crashes. Is CS alot more stable?

Thanks
Olga
olgac at videotron dot ca

I run PS 7 on a 2.8GHz P4 768Mb of ram and provided I don’t ask it to do to much at the same time it’s really stable, even with 300Mb image files but I do have a second 80Gb drive set to be a scratch disk. it *does* crash but not very often and normally only when I’m being silly and try to do something when the computer is flat out doing another operation. I would say if you are running a 500MHz P3 processor you might be better off getting a new PC instead of CS. and as everyone says as much ram as you can afford. I think if you try and run CS on your machine the problem will get worse not better.

On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 20:03:22 -0500, "Olga Chranowsky" wrote:

Thx Hecate,
I’ll look into turning off the welcome screen, see if this will work for me aswell.

Do u prefer working with CS? Are there any extra features compared to PS7? My system is a Pentium3 500, running WindowsXP.

Hi Olga,

Yes, I do. Mainly for the ability to use adjustment layers etc in 16 bit.

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Thx for all the advice bmoag. However I’ve been using PS7 for a long while now, and just lately it started crashing. I also upgraded my video drivers.

I do have 2 separate drives.
I use PS7 for Web Graphics, as well as for digital photos.

One more thing, my computer use to run Quake3 with no prob what so ever, that is why I can’t understand a simple program like PS7 crashing.

I guess I’ll have to reinstall FireWorks again!

Thanks again
Olga

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You have a relatively slow processor by PS7 standards which could be part of the problem if you are working on large files. If you also do not have enough memory Photoshop can crash doing even basic operations on large files. You also do not say how your scratch discs are set up or if you have more than one hard drive in the computer. On underpowered computers a large file might be only 10mbs.

Photoshop is an absolute reason to get a faster processor/more memory: there is an obvious benefit to not having to watch the hourglass as long or even see it. If you cannot upgrade your computer I would not get CS.
In my experience CS is not as stable as Photoshop 7, and I run it on an Athlon3200 with gobs of memory and separate hard drives for scratch discs. It routinely hiccups performing some functions and has actually crashed on occasion for unknown reasons.

However it is worth putting up with CS foibles if you are moving into digital only photography because of the tools CS has for working with raw images. Adobe hypes the other changes but they may or may not be useful to you.

I’ve been using PS7 for a long while, just lately it started crashing.

I do have 2 separate drives, which I do use one drive for scratch disk.

I don’t understand, my computer use to run Quake3 with no prob, was very stable, now a simple program like PS7 giving me problems.

I guess I’ll just reinstall FireWorks for now, while troubleshooting my prob with PS7.

Thx for your help
Olga

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"Olga Chranowsky" wrote in message

Can anyone give me advice on the comparison of Photoshop 7 vs CS.
I’m a Photoshop user for many years, except having problems with PS7, it always crashes. Is CS alot more stable?

Thanks
Olga
olgac at videotron dot ca

I run PS 7 on a 2.8GHz P4 768Mb of ram and provided I don’t ask it to do to much at the same time it’s really stable, even with 300Mb image files but I do have a second 80Gb drive set to be a scratch disk. it *does* crash but not very often and normally only when I’m being silly and try to do something when the computer is flat out doing another operation. I would say if you are running a 500MHz P3 processor you might be better off getting a new PC instead of CS. and as everyone says as much ram as you can afford. I think if you try and run CS on your machine the problem will get worse not better.

I have WindowsXP, it’s just lately PS7 started crashing. I’ve been using PS7 for a long time. I don’t understand. I guess I’ll have to keep toubleshooting so more, will use FireWorks for now.

Thx
Olga

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I use PS7 with a p4 2.0 MHz and 653 meg of ram on W2000 (which I think sucks).
I push ps7 ridiculously and have never had it even blink. On top of that I’ll have ps7, corel 9 and AI10 open at the same time and it
still chugs along. I heard it does work even better with XP, but I haven’t had the chance to switch yet.
I’ve never used CS but I bet it would work just as well.
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Olga Chranowsky wrote:

Can anyone give me advice on the comparison of Photoshop 7 vs CS.
I’m a Photoshop user for many years, except having problems with PS7, it
always crashes. Is CS alot more stable?

Thanks
Olga
olgac at videotron dot ca

I have never, to this day, had a single PhotoShop CS crash under Windows XP. If you have plenty of RAM and a fairly fast CPU it runs like a dream. I never really had issues with earlier versions either. Perhaps your machine is just a bit out of date? Bad video drivers can cause problems too.

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Hi Hecate,
So the adjustment layers r even better in CS, that’s great to know.

Once I figure out my problem as to why PS7 started crashing on me, I can then consider CS.
I guess meanwhile I’ll use FireWorks. Have u ever tried this program?

Olga
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On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 20:03:22 -0500, "Olga Chranowsky" wrote:

Thx Hecate,
I’ll look into turning off the welcome screen, see if this will work for me
aswell.

Do u prefer working with CS? Are there any extra features compared to PS7? My system is a Pentium3 500, running WindowsXP.

Hi Olga,

Yes, I do. Mainly for the ability to use adjustment layers etc in 16 bit.

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On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 21:26:45 -0500, "Olga Chranowsky" wrote:

Hi Hecate,
So the adjustment layers r even better in CS, that’s great to know.
Once I figure out my problem as to why PS7 started crashing on me, I can then consider CS.
I guess meanwhile I’ll use FireWorks. Have u ever tried this program?

Use it all the time for web work. The included Image Ready that Adobe pretend is a useful program just isn’t good enough.

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On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 21:20:39 -0500, "Olga Chranowsky" wrote:

I have WindowsXP, it’s just lately PS7 started crashing. I’ve been using PS7 for a long time. I don’t understand. I guess I’ll have to keep toubleshooting so more, will use FireWorks for now.

That really suggests it’s something you have changed on your system recently.

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I have to agree with you about Image Ready. If u need to make rollovers just use Java or even still CSS is great for the web along with FireWorks.

Olga
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 21:26:45 -0500, "Olga Chranowsky" wrote:

I guess meanwhile I’ll use FireWorks. Have u ever tried this program?

Use it all the time for web work. The included Image Ready that Adobe pretend is a useful program just isn’t good enough.

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Olga Chranowsky wrote:

Thx arrooke

Olga

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Can anyone give me advice on the comparison of Photoshop 7 vs CS.
I’m a Photoshop user for many years, except having problems with PS7, it always crashes. Is CS alot more stable?

Thanks
Olga

Have you ever tried Photopaint 12? (A part of the CorelDraw 12 Graphics Suite). It is a fantastic programme, has the manipulation features of Photoshop plus more besides and is quicker to use. CorelDraw, the vector illustration programme is also great and also acts as a mulri-page DTP programme too (to a certain extent).

Just some food for thought.

Brian.

Thx Brian for the info.

However I’ll be using FireWorks for now, once again! Along with using FW, I’ll use CSS which is great for the web and DreamWeaver.

Have u ever tried FireWorks?

Olga

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Have you ever tried Photopaint 12? (A part of the CorelDraw 12 Graphics Suite). It is a fantastic programme, has the manipulation features of Photoshop plus more besides and is quicker to use. CorelDraw, the vector illustration programme is also great and also acts as a mulri-page DTP programme too (to a certain extent).

Just some food for thought.

Brian.

On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 18:00:03 +1100, Brian
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Olga Chranowsky wrote:

Thx arrooke

Olga

"_arrooke" wrote in message

Can anyone give me advice on the comparison of Photoshop 7 vs CS.
I’m a Photoshop user for many years, except having problems with PS7, it always crashes. Is CS alot more stable?

Thanks
Olga

Have you ever tried Photopaint 12? (A part of the CorelDraw 12 Graphics Suite). It is a fantastic programme, has the manipulation features of Photoshop plus more besides and is quicker to use. CorelDraw, the vector illustration programme is also great and also acts as a mulri-page DTP programme too (to a certain extent).

Just some food for thought.

Brian, you know the one thing that would improve it? If it wouldn’t crash every time I have more than 9 images open. 😉

(Not big ones ether, no more than 10Mb – that’s always been Corel’s problem – lack of stability – it was about the major reason I gave up on them).

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On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 18:00:03 +1100, Brian
wrote:

Olga Chranowsky wrote:

Thx arrooke

Olga

"_arrooke" wrote in message

Can anyone give me advice on the comparison of Photoshop 7 vs CS.
I’m a Photoshop user for many years, except having problems with PS7, it always crashes. Is CS alot more stable?

Thanks
Olga

Have you ever tried Photopaint 12? (A part of the CorelDraw 12 Graphics Suite). It is a fantastic programme, has the manipulation features of Photoshop plus more besides and is quicker to use. CorelDraw, the vector illustration programme is also great and also acts as a mulri-page DTP programme too (to a certain extent).

Just some food for thought.

Brian.

Hey brain dead! The poster asked about upgrading to CS and you go off on some rant abut Corel Draw. Plus, if his machine is crashing on Photoshop 7 then it will probably to the same with CS. It sounds like a hardware issue or conflicting software. Personally, I find that backing up critical data, reformating the hard drive and reinstalling the necessary applications one at a time after gettin a stable install of the operating system with all updates.

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On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 18:00:03 +1100, Brian
wrote:

Olga Chranowsky wrote:

Thx arrooke

Olga

"_arrooke" wrote in message

Can anyone give me advice on the comparison of Photoshop 7 vs CS.
I’m a Photoshop user for many years, except having problems with PS7, it always crashes. Is CS alot more stable?

Thanks
Olga

Have you ever tried Photopaint 12? (A part of the CorelDraw 12 Graphics Suite). It is a fantastic programme, has the manipulation features of Photoshop plus more besides and is quicker to use. CorelDraw, the vector illustration programme is also great and also acts as a mulri-page DTP programme too (to a certain extent).

Just some food for thought.

Brian.

Hey brain dead! The poster asked about upgrading to CS and you go off on some rant abut Corel Draw. Plus, if his machine is crashing on Photoshop 7 then it will probably to the same with CS. It sounds like a hardware issue or conflicting software. Personally, I find that backing up critical data, reformating the hard drive and reinstalling the necessary applications one at a time after gettin a stable install of the operating system with all updates.

Hey Donald, no need for insults, I have no idea how that message arrived in this thread? I actually posted it to another thread where someone asked if there was a less expensive software alternative to PS. It went to that thread too!!! No idea how it arrived in this thread.

Just for the record, I probably have a far better brain than you could only dream of having!

Brian.

Brian, you know the one thing that would improve it? If it wouldn’t crash every time I have more than 9 images open. 😉

(Not big ones ether, no more than 10Mb – that’s always been Corel’s problem – lack of stability – it was about the major reason I gave up on them).

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I won’t get into any debates, as this is a PS discussion and that message was not meant to come here! I have not had any great instability in my experiences though, admittedly I don’t tend to open 9 images at once! One image at a time, or 2 or 3, is fine.

All the best, Brian.

Brian, you know the one thing that would improve it? If it wouldn’t crash every time I have more than 9 images open. 😉

(Not big ones ether, no more than 10Mb – that’s always been Corel’s problem – lack of stability – it was about the major reason I gave up on them).

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I won’t get into any debates, as this is a PS discussion and that message was not meant to come here! I have not had any great instability in my experiences though, admittedly I don’t tend to open 9 images at once! One image at a time, or 2 or 3, is fine.

All the best, Brian.

Brian, you know the one thing that would improve it? If it wouldn’t crash every time I have more than 9 images open. 😉

(Not big ones ether, no more than 10Mb – that’s always been Corel’s problem – lack of stability – it was about the major reason I gave up on them).

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I won’t get into any debates, as this is a PS discussion and that message was not meant to come here in the first place! I have not had any great instability in my experiences though, admittedly I don’t tend to open 9 images at once! One image at a time, or 2 or 3, is fine.

All the best, Brian.

Brian wrote:

Brian, you know the one thing that would improve it? If it wouldn’t crash every time I have more than 9 images open. 😉

(Not big ones ether, no more than 10Mb – that’s always been Corel’s problem – lack of stability – it was about the major reason I gave up on them).

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I won’t get into any debates, as this is a PS discussion and that message was not meant to come here in the first place! I have not had any great instability in my experiences though, admittedly I don’t tend to open 9 images at once! One image at a time, or 2 or 3, is fine.
All the best, Brian.

Sorry about the multi-postings of the same message. My newsreader was telling me the message had not gone through (when it had), so I resent it. The same thing happened the 2nd time and I resent again.

🙁

How much RAM are you running? I now have 2 GIGS of RAM running on a pentium 4 3 gig machine and everything’s fine.

When I was running PS with 512 megs of RAM PS would frequently lockup and I’d have to reboot.

I’d think that if you are crashing in PS 7 you wold also be crashing in CS.

davidN

Olga Chranowsky wrote:

Thx SpaceGirl,

I’m running a Pentium 3 500, on WindowsXP.
I know my video drivers r fine, but I will check for latest updates, thx for advice.

Olga

That’s a pretty slow machine for PhotoShop CS on XP. Do you have lots of RAM? On a machine that slow I’d probably suggest you make sure you have all of XP’s "pretty bits" turned off as they eat up lots of CPU time which a P3 500mhz just doesn’t have spare. Also, a P 3 lacks a lot of CPU instructions that PS:CS uses to accelerate it’s behavior.

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Hi Miranda,(SpaceGirl)

I have 384 MB of RAM, it’s more than enough.
As I mentioned in one of my messages, I was using PS7 for a long time with no problems whatsoever. I didn’t use it for a little while, then when I did open it I started with all these problems.

I thank-you very much for all your help and advice.
I have a few graphics to work on and whatever problem PS7 is going through(PMS probably!!!!!!! LOL) I’ll use FireWorks along with CSS, atleast I have stability with these programs.

Olga

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Olga Chranowsky wrote:

Thx SpaceGirl,

I’m running a Pentium 3 500, on WindowsXP.
I know my video drivers r fine, but I will check for latest updates, thx for advice.

Olga

That’s a pretty slow machine for PhotoShop CS on XP. Do you have lots of RAM? On a machine that slow I’d probably suggest you make sure you have all of XP’s "pretty bits" turned off as they eat up lots of CPU time which a P3 500mhz just doesn’t have spare. Also, a P 3 lacks a lot of CPU instructions that PS:CS uses to accelerate it’s behavior.

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On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 18:42:58 +1100, Brian
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I won’t get into any debates, as this is a PS discussion and that message was not meant to come here in the first place! I have not had any great instability in my experiences though, admittedly I don’t tend to open 9 images at once! One image at a time, or 2 or 3, is fine.
All the best, Brian.

Sorry about the multi-postings of the same message. My newsreader was telling me the message had not gone through (when it had), so I resent it. The same thing happened the 2nd time and I resent again.
🙁

LOL! I just thought you were being emphatic <g>

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