Photoshop or polarizer

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Ken Palmateer
Feb 16, 2005
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Is there any advantage to actually putting a polarizing filter on the camera lens when you can get the same results in Photoshop. One exception I can think of would be in getting rid of glare, but to intensify a blue sky, say, why bother with the filter? Ken

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John Doe
Feb 16, 2005
You can’t duplicate the effects of a polarizer in Photoshop. If you have a polarizer for your camera I suggest take the same picture with and without it and see what you can do in Photoshop. Polarizer do much more than just blue-ify skies and reduce glare, they also help a bit with haze.

John

"Ken Palmateer" wrote in message
Is there any advantage to actually putting a polarizing filter on the camera lens when you can get the same results in Photoshop. One exception I can think of would be in getting rid of glare, but to intensify a blue sky, say, why bother with the filter? Ken
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xDsrtRat
Feb 18, 2005
Even if you could duplicate the effect, which takes less time? I’ve always been lazy, so for me, the few seconds to screw in a filter (or hold it over the lens) and rotate it to get the exact effect I want beats messing with effects in the darkroom, digital or otherwise.

Yes, I do use PhotoShop to enhance photos, but the result is always easier and better if you start with a good negative (digital capture). This is a lesson sadly missing in many non-silver based photographers’ training. With digital cameras it’s all to easy to snap a whole bunch and tell yourself "I can always enhance this later or throw it away". If you want top quality results, think like a 4×5 photographer: "I have one sheet of film and only one chance to do this".

OK, I’m done ranting and I’m slinking back to my cave with the other dinosaurs to commune with the spirits of Ansel Adams, Minor White, Margaret Bourke White and the other greats who helped shape the art of photography. As a recovering silver based photographer, I just can’t help myself :-{)} —
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"Ken Palmateer" wrote in message
Is there any advantage to actually putting a polarizing filter on the camera lens when you can get the same results in Photoshop. One exception I can think of would be in getting rid of glare, but to intensify a blue sky, say, why bother with the filter? Ken
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Ken Palmateer
Feb 18, 2005
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 06:52:59 -0500, "xDsrtRat" wrote:

Even if you could duplicate the effect, which takes less time? I’ve always been lazy, so for me, the few seconds to screw in a filter (or hold it over the lens) and rotate it to get the exact effect I want beats messing with effects in the darkroom, digital or otherwise.

Yes, I do use PhotoShop to enhance photos, but the result is always easier and better if you start with a good negative (digital capture). This is a lesson sadly missing in many non-silver based photographers’ training. With digital cameras it’s all to easy to snap a whole bunch and tell yourself "I can always enhance this later or throw it away". If you want top quality results, think like a 4×5 photographer: "I have one sheet of film and only one chance to do this".

OK, I’m done ranting and I’m slinking back to my cave with the other dinosaurs to commune with the spirits of Ansel Adams, Minor White, Margaret Bourke White and the other greats who helped shape the art of photography. As a recovering silver based photographer, I just can’t help myself :-{)}

Yeah, it’s easy to assume Photoshop can be a "fix-all". As an aside, being a "silver based photographer" myself for many a decade (two and a half, app.) I do miss the Zen-like calm of spending time in the dark room (pollution and carcinogenic effects aside), shuffling from the enlarger to the trays with that always eager expectation as the image slowly forms. Those days are just about gone. kp
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Hecate
Feb 19, 2005
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 06:52:59 -0500, "xDsrtRat" wrote:

Even if you could duplicate the effect, which takes less time? I’ve always been lazy, so for me, the few seconds to screw in a filter (or hold it over the lens) and rotate it to get the exact effect I want beats messing with effects in the darkroom, digital or otherwise.

Yes, I do use PhotoShop to enhance photos, but the result is always easier and better if you start with a good negative (digital capture). This is a lesson sadly missing in many non-silver based photographers’ training. With digital cameras it’s all to easy to snap a whole bunch and tell yourself "I can always enhance this later or throw it away". If you want top quality results, think like a 4×5 photographer: "I have one sheet of film and only one chance to do this".

OK, I’m done ranting and I’m slinking back to my cave with the other dinosaurs to commune with the spirits of Ansel Adams, Minor White, Margaret Bourke White and the other greats who helped shape the art of photography. As a recovering silver based photographer, I just can’t help myself :-{)}

You’re absolutely right. You should always work from the best possible neg/tranny whether that is digital or film. That’s why I still use a polarizer, and why, although I’d junked a lot of my colour filters, I still have my NDs and ND grads.



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jeecee
Apr 2, 2005
In article , Hecate
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On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 06:52:59 -0500, "xDsrtRat" wrote:

You’re absolutely right. You should always work from the best possible neg/tranny whether that is digital or film. That’s why I still use a polarizer, and why, although I’d junked a lot of my colour filters, I still have my NDs and ND grads.

Hecate – The Real One

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You bet he’s right! Do yourself a favor: use a Dslr or a regular SLR (preferably with slide film) and use the polarizer even under a cloudy sky and look carefully when you’re rotating the filter. You will see the wonder of a polarizing filter. Aside from blue sky, there is many other reflections polluting the color rendition or altering the range of color reproduction. After a while you will be amazed about the versatility of such a filter and no, PhotoShop can’t duplicate the removal of atmospherical reflections.

As a lecturer and workshop leader in photography, I’ve always showed a lot of slides, side to side (a at my own expense I should say- always taking two or three slides instead of one) for comparison; people were surprized to see so many ‘new" colors in the pictures.

Have fun with the filter

Jeecee

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