B&W Photos

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Deadlegs
Feb 17, 2005
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A couple of questions about B&W. Dan Margulis has a chapter in his book about converting colour to b&w but says nothing about how to handle straight b&w prints. The obvious thing to do is to scan them in greyscale and adjust the tonal range and print. However, is it better to scan as rgb and use the DM techniques to obtain a better result?

The second question relates to an rgb file in which I wish to use the green channel as my b&w final image. DM suggests discarding the other channels. How do you do this? Just drag them into the garbage can or is there a more refined method? Then, in what format should I store the result? Any advice will be appreciated.

Thanks,
Peter

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Camera
Feb 17, 2005
An UK magazine called MONO issue 42 had a very detail description of scanning B&W and in issue 43 they were talking baout fine-tuning using Photogshop.

If you are interested, you may buy the issues from them
www.arempublishing.co.uk.

If you just want the articles, I am happy to scan them and email to you.

A couple of questions about B&W. Dan Margulis has a chapter in his book about converting colour to b&w but says nothing about how to handle
straight
b&w prints. The obvious thing to do is to scan them in greyscale and
adjust
the tonal range and print. However, is it better to scan as rgb and use
the
DM techniques to obtain a better result?

The second question relates to an rgb file in which I wish to use the
green
channel as my b&w final image. DM suggests discarding the other channels. How do you do this? Just drag them into the garbage can or is there a
more
refined method? Then, in what format should I store the result? Any advice will be appreciated.

Thanks,
Peter

RF
Robert Feinman
Feb 17, 2005
In article <M%ZQd.164428$>,
says…
A couple of questions about B&W. Dan Margulis has a chapter in his book about converting colour to b&w but says nothing about how to handle straight b&w prints. The obvious thing to do is to scan them in greyscale and adjust the tonal range and print. However, is it better to scan as rgb and use the DM techniques to obtain a better result?

The second question relates to an rgb file in which I wish to use the green channel as my b&w final image. DM suggests discarding the other channels. How do you do this? Just drag them into the garbage can or is there a more refined method? Then, in what format should I store the result? Any advice will be appreciated.

Thanks,
Peter
Sometimes scanning a b&w original in color can produce better results. If the picture has any stains or discoloration one channel may be cleaner than the others. Also the noise level in one channel may be lower if the scanner has some problems.
For converting color to gray, you can just discard the other channels to the trash.
You can store a single channel image as gray scale in .PSD or .TIF format.


Robert D Feinman
Landscapes, Cityscapes and Panoramic Photographs
http://robertdfeinman.com
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Deadlegs
Feb 17, 2005
Robert,

I was "thrown" a bit by the image changing mode when I trashed the channels. This helps thanks.

"Robert Feinman" wrote in message
In article <M%ZQd.164428$>,
says…
A couple of questions about B&W. Dan Margulis has a chapter in his book about converting colour to b&w but says nothing about how to handle straight
b&w prints. The obvious thing to do is to scan them in greyscale and adjust
the tonal range and print. However, is it better to scan as rgb and use the
DM techniques to obtain a better result?

The second question relates to an rgb file in which I wish to use the green
channel as my b&w final image. DM suggests discarding the other channels.
How do you do this? Just drag them into the garbage can or is there a more
refined method? Then, in what format should I store the result? Any advice will be appreciated.

Thanks,
Peter
Sometimes scanning a b&w original in color can produce better results. If the picture has any stains or discoloration one channel may be cleaner than the others. Also the noise level in one channel may be lower if the scanner has some problems.
For converting color to gray, you can just discard the other channels to the trash.
You can store a single channel image as gray scale in .PSD or .TIF format.


Robert D Feinman
Landscapes, Cityscapes and Panoramic Photographs
http://robertdfeinman.com
mail:
D
Deadlegs
Feb 19, 2005
Cheers, I will see if I can get a copy.
"Camera" wrote in message
An UK magazine called MONO issue 42 had a very detail description of scanning B&W and in issue 43 they were talking baout fine-tuning using Photogshop.

If you are interested, you may buy the issues from them
www.arempublishing.co.uk.

If you just want the articles, I am happy to scan them and email to you.
A couple of questions about B&W. Dan Margulis has a chapter in his book about converting colour to b&w but says nothing about how to handle
straight
b&w prints. The obvious thing to do is to scan them in greyscale and
adjust
the tonal range and print. However, is it better to scan as rgb and use
the
DM techniques to obtain a better result?

The second question relates to an rgb file in which I wish to use the
green
channel as my b&w final image. DM suggests discarding the other channels.
How do you do this? Just drag them into the garbage can or is there a
more
refined method? Then, in what format should I store the result? Any advice will be appreciated.

Thanks,
Peter

C
Camera
Feb 19, 2005
Hi Peter, is it okay for me to send them to ?

"Deadlegs"
C
Camera
Feb 19, 2005
Sorry, I mean if you can’t get a copy from them then I will send them to you in pdf.

"Camera"
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Deadlegs
Feb 20, 2005
sure thing
"Camera" wrote in message
Hi Peter, is it okay for me to send them to ?

"Deadlegs"
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Deadlegs
Feb 20, 2005
yes pls send it to my e-mail address, I could not see a way to order back copies
"Camera" wrote in message
Sorry, I mean if you can’t get a copy from them then I will send them to you
in pdf.

"Camera"
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Deadlegs
Feb 20, 2005
Robert if you still see this. It seems when you trash a channel the image changees to a multi channel image, so I get left with a cyan and magenta image instead of one with a red channel and green channel. How do I preserve the rgb format so that I can isolate the green?

"Deadlegs" wrote in message
Robert,

I was "thrown" a bit by the image changing mode when I trashed the channels. This helps thanks.

"Robert Feinman" wrote in message
In article <M%ZQd.164428$>,
says…
A couple of questions about B&W. Dan Margulis has a chapter in his book about converting colour to b&w but says nothing about how to handle straight
b&w prints. The obvious thing to do is to scan them in greyscale and adjust
the tonal range and print. However, is it better to scan as rgb and use the
DM techniques to obtain a better result?

The second question relates to an rgb file in which I wish to use the green
channel as my b&w final image. DM suggests discarding the other channels.
How do you do this? Just drag them into the garbage can or is there a more
refined method? Then, in what format should I store the result? Any advice will be appreciated.

Thanks,
Peter
Sometimes scanning a b&w original in color can produce better results. If the picture has any stains or discoloration one channel may be cleaner than the others. Also the noise level in one channel may be lower if the scanner has some problems.
For converting color to gray, you can just discard the other channels to the trash.
You can store a single channel image as gray scale in .PSD or .TIF format.


Robert D Feinman
Landscapes, Cityscapes and Panoramic Photographs
http://robertdfeinman.com
mail:

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