White Dots!!! AGH!!!

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Jo-B Sebastian
Jul 9, 2003
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Hi, im still REALLY REALLY new to Adobe and Whenever I use something like use the bucket tool or a brush or a filter there are these white dots that apear!!! Its ruining my pictures!!! Help!! Ive tried reinstalling and everything but nothing’s working!!! Help!!!

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BLUDVLZ
Jul 9, 2003
Jo-B

Check to make sure that you’re using the latest drivers for your video card. Also make sure that you’re running at 24- or 32-bit color.

Do the white dots change location if you move around the image, or are they stationary? When you save the file, do they still appear in the same place when the file is reopened? Can you edit/clone/paint them out or do the just stay there no matter what you try?
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Phosphor
Jul 9, 2003
It sounds like you may have your settings in the "disolve" mode. This can result in the effect of little white dots, sort of like a shotgun effect. But maybe not.
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Jo-B Sebastian
Jul 10, 2003
It moves around when I do things like use a brush or something… IU dunno wat to do… It wasnt like that before!!! 🙁 I cant edit them on Photoshop, I have to save them and then paint over them in another editor… what do I do?
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YrbkMgr
Jul 10, 2003
Click on your brush tool. Look at the options bar at the top. What does the MODE say?
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Jo-B Sebastian
Jul 10, 2003
um… stroke thumbnail?
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Jo-B Sebastian
Jul 10, 2003
how do I turn it off?
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Jo-B Sebastian
Jul 10, 2003
But its not on Dissolve, its on Normal!!! The dots move when I do something, anything like using a brush or a filter etc… Its exactly as BLUDVLZ sed!!! Please help!!
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YrbkMgr
Jul 10, 2003
Jo-B,

Here’s the situation. There is a lot of help here but we cannot understand what you are saying so we are guessing. That means that you will probably have to dig your heels in and try describing the situation in terms that we can understand. After you use image editing programs for a while a certain "language" becomes second nature.

Being new, you are not, of course, expected to have a great language set, but if you want us to be able to help you, you *will* have to get a little more descriptive with the issue.

Peace,
Tony
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dave milbut
Jul 10, 2003
The dots move when I do something, anything like using a brush or a filter etc…

from chris:

Chris Cox – 01:17pm Feb 7, 2003 Pacific (#7 of 15)

If you zoom in and they go away, it’s probably the video card.

If you zoom in and out and they change, it’s probably bad RAM.

If the image looks fine, you save it, then reload it and it’s corrupted – then it’s probably the hard disk.
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Jo-B Sebastian
Jul 11, 2003
oh heehee sorry… ill try be more descriptive… can I post a picture on here?
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Jo-B Sebastian
Jul 11, 2003
but when I open a file I already saved and work on it, the dots dont appear… only when I make a new image and work on it do the dots appear…
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Jo-B Sebastian
Jul 11, 2003
help me please!! 🙁
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Colin Walls
Jul 11, 2003
Jo-B:
I have been following this thread and I can see that you have a genuine need for help, but I’m afraid you’re not helping yourself. Please do 2 things:

1) Take us through, step-by-step what you do to end up with a doc containing these dots. [Preferably after resetting your PS prefs – see FAQ.]

2) Post a PSD file [not JPEG!] which exhibits the problem.
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Pierre Courtejoie
Jul 11, 2003
Jo-B… you said the white points are moving… if you start with a white image, are they black points?

For me , your description looks like the way the selections are showned in Photoshop… could it be possible that it is just the "marching ants"?
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Jo-B Sebastian
Jul 11, 2003
yes, if i start with a white image they are black… ok i’ll start step by step. firstly, i open ps .
then i ususally fill in the picture with a colour and thats when the spotes appear. next i tried to cover them up with a brush.
3rd, they dont get covered up but they move whenever I use the brush or use a filter etc. Then I save it and when I view it its still spotty…
next i open up that saved image again in Photoshop and then the spots just go awasy when I brush over them or paint bucket over them…
But one thing I noticed was that my brushes (the thimbnails) have dots on them aswell!! ??

heres an example.. in PSD format this time…

<http://www.boomspeed.com/sclubparty13/piccy.psd>
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Colin Walls
Jul 11, 2003
How do you mean "brush over them or paint bucket over them"? "Brush" I understand, but the paint bucket only fills contiguous areas.

Also, do I understand right: If you create a new doc and immediately save/close it, you are OK when you open it again?
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Cheesefood
Jul 11, 2003
The "dots" are actually holes in the layer. Very curious. If you make a selection and clear, then use the paint buckt to fill, what happens?
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Jo-B Sebastian
Jul 11, 2003
yes, if i start with a white image i get black dots.
step by step:

1)I open Photoshop, make a new project.
2)I fill the picture in with a colour.
3)then the white dots appear!
4)I try to cover them up with a brush but it doesnt work and the dots move around and multipy or decrease…
5) I save the image as a JPEG and view it in a image viewer and its still the same!
6)I open it again in Photoshop and im able to cover the spots up with a brush… but ive noticed that the brush thumbnails have dots on them aswell… ?
heres a example that i made:
<http://www.boomspeed.com/sclubparty13/piccy.psd>
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dougleax
Jul 11, 2003
Check to see if you have texture selected in brush presets. Also check if you have pattern selected with Fill.
I can create your problem with a similar texture selected.
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Bill Lamp
Jul 11, 2003
What happens at your step 3) when you add step 1A?

1)I open Photoshop, make a new project.

1A.) Flatten image

2)I fill the picture in with a colour.
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Jo-B Sebastian
Jul 11, 2003
no textures are selected and still i get thos dots…
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Jo-B Sebastian
Jul 11, 2003
oh, i can cover them when i flatten them but there are still dots when i fill it with colour. I can cover them now though! Thanks for all your help guys!!! i wonder whats up with my photoshop? 🙂 but a question: when i flatten it, it becomes white, not transparent like i want it to…
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YrbkMgr
Jul 11, 2003
Something else is going on too…

Take his image and open the levels dialog. Set the middle input box (gamma) to 2.8. There’s a pattern that looks like the Clouds filter (or something). My point is, that the fill is not uniform as one would expect, aside from the white dots.

Peace,
Tony
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Phosphor
Jul 11, 2003
I noticed you wrote that you tried uninstalling and reinstalling, but what happens when you try deleting your preferences file as well? It doesn’t necessarily get deleted with an uninstall.

Don’t know if that will help, but can’t hurt. (Except for the pain of losing your preferred setup, of course)
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Bill Lamp
Jul 11, 2003
Jo-B,

It is supposed to turn white. The reason I asked you to flatten it was to see if this was a problem restricted to a non-background layer and bring things down to the simplest situation. That might make it possible to rule some possibilities out. It did make a difference in what you found. That might help the real experts figure it out. I’m just a hacker/duffer/novice/but LEGAL something or other in Photoshop compared with the others here. and to avoid re-opening THAT can of worms..

Here "hacker" is being UNofficially used as someone who sometimes just plays around to see what happens when I do this… in Photoshop and not THAT other meaning. <grin>

What you said happens when the file is flattened before doing ANYTHING with a FILE/NEW/SIZE seems to rule out an erase or selection somehow being applied without your knowledge.

I don’t know what the problem is or how to cure it. But it is beginning to look like somehow a faint pattern or texture or effect is being combined with fill. I think that would show up with what Yrbk uncovered.

An odd thought as it just might have something to do with it, are you defining your empty, new file as INDEXED color before you fill it? With you mentioning transparency…

Question to the rest, as I haven’t had the need to do a patern or texture fill (I think you can do it but haven’t even tried it) is there someway, after using a pattern/texture/effect to force a clear? Could Jo-B have done used a texture in the past and it "hung" or somehow got set as a default? Just an idea to throw out.

As for the need for transparency… Again the main problem is getting things going right (NO dots/spots/hidden effects/textures/patterns/whatever. Only THEN getting transparency where you want it comes into play. A one step at a time to avoid possibly two things working against each other on your machine. We’re not ignoreing your need for transparency, just putting it on the back burner for a bit while the stove gets turned on.

Bill
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Andrew Bokelman
Jul 11, 2003
I gave up on using the paint bucket a long time
ago because it never seemed to do a good job of
filling. And what I do now is use the Fill command
from the menu.

So what I want to know is, have you tried the Fill
command with normal settings, and do you still
have a problem using this?
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YrbkMgr
Jul 11, 2003
Bill,

Could Jo-B have done used a texture in the past and it "hung" or somehow got set as a default?

Yes, I thought of that too. The thing is, the Brush – if he’s using version 7, he may have inadvertantly used a pattern for the paintbrush, and that may come into play, but what troubles me is that the FILL is one pattern (when you bend the histogram), and the dots are something else. So… two patterns?

<shrug>
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Colin Walls
Jul 11, 2003
Not ctrl-alt-del! ctrl-alt-space isn’t it?
CW
Colin Walls
Jul 11, 2003
No, ctrl-alt-shift.
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Bill Lamp
Jul 11, 2003
At least CTRL+ALT+DEL isn’t as bad as

f????? C:\ U

command name hidden for safety reasons.

Bill
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dave milbut
Jul 12, 2003
lol

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