Extract Command

I never use extract
In PS 4 was a selection tutorial and I learned from that

do you have magnetic lasso in version 7?

I use a combination of tools and also depends upon the photo background If there are large similar color background like a cyc I use Select>color range (then inverse)
also the magic wand at various tolerances can be used to clean up messy areas
I also like the magnetic lasso for that, as it hugs to edges as you go around

many people like the pen tool (I don’t)

another completely different method is using channels
it seems complex but if you follow along the steps it is not bad

http://av.adobe.com/russellbrown/AdvancedMasking.mov (long load time-wait)

"Bob Williams" wrote in message

Do any of you routinely do selections of images with detailed outlines using the Filter > Extract Command?
I am using PS 7.0 and for me, it is pretty tedious.
Do you have a better, simpler and quicker way to do the selection?
There used to be a PS plug-in called "Knockout". I never used it but I suspect the program is still available somewhere. Anybody use it?
Is it significantly different from EXTRACT?
Bob Williams

On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 03:14:00 -0700, Bob Williams
wrote:

Do any of you routinely do selections of images with detailed outlines using the Filter > Extract Command?
I am using PS 7.0 and for me, it is pretty tedious.
Do you have a better, simpler and quicker way to do the selection?
There used to be a PS plug-in called "Knockout". I never used it but I suspect the program is still available somewhere. Anybody use it?
Is it significantly different from EXTRACT?
Bob Williams

Once you learn how to use the Layer Mask function of Photoshop, you’ll never miss Extract. (Which has been dropped in later versions) Also good for extractions is Quick Mask. I do use a Wacom Bamboo tablet for the close work.

However, if you want KnockOut, it’s now a product of Corel. KnockOut2 sells for $99. They don’t seem to have a trial version. http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite/us/en/Product/1152105 061771#tabview=tab0

A Wacom Bamboo tablet is also $99 (or less if you catch a special offer), and money better spent (imo) than $99 for KnockOut2.

—
Tony Cooper – Orlando, Florida

Yes! I have the Magnetic Lasso in PS 7.0
I sometimes use it for selecting detail but selecting stuff like hair, fur, feathers, etc., drives me nuts.
I’ve been considering a Wacom tablet but haven’t taken the "plunge" yet. Bob

Kabuki wrote:

I never use extract
In PS 4 was a selection tutorial and I learned from that
do you have magnetic lasso in version 7?

I use a combination of tools and also depends upon the photo background If there are large similar color background like a cyc I use Select>color range (then inverse)
also the magic wand at various tolerances can be used to clean up messy areas
I also like the magnetic lasso for that, as it hugs to edges as you go around

many people like the pen tool (I don’t)

another completely different method is using channels
it seems complex but if you follow along the steps it is not bad
http://av.adobe.com/russellbrown/AdvancedMasking.mov (long load time-wait)

"Bob Williams" wrote in message

Do any of you routinely do selections of images with detailed outlines using the Filter > Extract Command?
I am using PS 7.0 and for me, it is pretty tedious.
Do you have a better, simpler and quicker way to do the selection?
There used to be a PS plug-in called "Knockout". I never used it but I suspect the program is still available somewhere. Anybody use it?
Is it significantly different from EXTRACT?
Bob Williams

Kabuki wrote:

I never use extract
In PS 4 was a selection tutorial and I learned from that
do you have magnetic lasso in version 7?

I use a combination of tools and also depends upon the photo background If there are large similar color background like a cyc I use Select>color range (then inverse)
also the magic wand at various tolerances can be used to clean up messy areas
I also like the magnetic lasso for that, as it hugs to edges as you go around

many people like the pen tool (I don’t)

another completely different method is using channels
it seems complex but if you follow along the steps it is not bad
http://av.adobe.com/russellbrown/AdvancedMasking.mov (long load time-wait)

"Bob Williams" wrote in message

Do any of you routinely do selections of images with detailed outlines using the Filter > Extract Command?
I am using PS 7.0 and for me, it is pretty tedious.
Do you have a better, simpler and quicker way to do the selection?
There used to be a PS plug-in called "Knockout". I never used it but I suspect the program is still available somewhere. Anybody use it?
Is it significantly different from EXTRACT?
Bob Williams

"Bob Williams" wrote in message

Yes! I have the Magnetic Lasso in PS 7.0
I sometimes use it for selecting detail but selecting stuff like hair, fur, feathers, etc., drives me nuts.
I’ve been considering a Wacom tablet but haven’t taken the "plunge" yet. Bob

DID you try the video method I posted- it is specifically about doing blowing hair!! the most accurate way I have seen so far

Please for sake of continuity do not top post but reply below

Bob Williams wrote:

Do any of you routinely do selections of images with detailed outlines using the Filter > Extract Command?
I am using PS 7.0 and for me, it is pretty tedious.
Do you have a better, simpler and quicker way to do the selection?
There used to be a PS plug-in called "Knockout". I never used it but I suspect the program is still available somewhere. Anybody use it?
Is it significantly different from EXTRACT?
Bob Williams

Extract Com

Bob Williams wrote:

Do any of you routinely do selections of images with detailed outlines using the Filter > Extract Command?
I am using PS 7.0 and for me, it is pretty tedious.
Do you have a better, simpler and quicker way to do the selection?
There used to be a PS plug-in called "Knockout". I never used it but I suspect the program is still available somewhere. Anybody use it?
Is it significantly different from EXTRACT?
Bob Williams

Extract Command isn’t worth the trouble, and KnockOut isn’t worth the $$$. Neither one of them is worth to try as they are horrible,

If you really want to then pick your choice

– Learning to use Mask Command, if you mastered the skill then it’s the best choice.

– If you really want some plug-in to work with your Masking skill, then you may want to take a look at Fluid Mask and EZ-Mask both has some good/bad point between them two.

But you still need the Masking skill to finish the job.

I don’t remember if Photoshop v7 has the Quick Mask command or not, but Quick Mask command the [o] Command which I use on almost all my works.

"Kabuki" wrote:

Yes! I have the Magnetic Lasso in PS 7.0
I sometimes use it for selecting detail but selecting stuff like hair, fur, feathers, etc., drives me nuts.
I’ve been considering a Wacom tablet but haven’t taken the "plunge" yet. Bob

DID you try the video method I posted- it is specifically about doing blowing hair!! the most accurate way I have seen so far

Please for sake of continuity do not top post but reply below

I don’t like responsing the top-poster so I quote yours instead.

– For hair, EZ-Mask is very good on hair.

I have seen quite afew using Channel to deal with hair or edge and most of them turn out horrible. I know it helps if using combination with some Blending Mode’s but I am not good with the Blending Modes (too many and complex for me to remember)

– Me? I don’t do flying hair. But if I have to deal with some hair then I use the combination of Quick Mask and Hair Brush to create some fake hair to hide some bad spot. Of course with the combination of Masking, Layer, Blending (not blending mode but how to blend background and foreground)

Kabuki wrote:

Kabuki wrote:

I never use extract
In PS 4 was a selection tutorial and I learned from that
do you have magnetic lasso in version 7?

I use a combination of tools and also depends upon the photo background If there are large similar color background like a cyc I use Select>color range (then inverse)
also the magic wand at various tolerances can be used to clean up messy areas
I also like the magnetic lasso for that, as it hugs to edges as you go around

many people like the pen tool (I don’t)

another completely different method is using channels
it seems complex but if you follow along the steps it is not bad
http://av.adobe.com/russellbrown/AdvancedMasking.mov (long load time-wait)

"Bob Williams" wrote in message

Do any of you routinely do selections of images with detailed outlines using the Filter > Extract Command?
I am using PS 7.0 and for me, it is pretty tedious.
Do you have a better, simpler and quicker way to do the selection?
There used to be a PS plug-in called "Knockout". I never used it but I suspect the program is still available somewhere. Anybody use it?
Is it significantly different from EXTRACT?
Bob Williams

"Bob Williams" wrote in message

Yes! I have the Magnetic Lasso in PS 7.0
I sometimes use it for selecting detail but selecting stuff like hair, fur, feathers, etc., drives me nuts.
I’ve been considering a Wacom tablet but haven’t taken the "plunge" yet. Bob

DID you try the video method I posted- it is specifically about doing blowing hair!! the most accurate way I have seen so far

Please for sake of continuity do not top post but reply below

Yep! I just visited the site and it was very interesting. The tutor is really good and funny too.
The procedure worked quite well.
It does look quite complicated at first but if I watch the video a few times and make notes as I go along, I think I can pull it off OK. After I do it a bunch of times, it may become second nature. Thanks for the tip.
Bob