Color Matching (monitor to printer (& maybe scanner))

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Oct 12, 2009
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It’s been about five years since I used Photoshop (been sick). Now I’m feeling better and want to get back in the game. I used to have to calibrate my LaCie monitor – then calibrate my printer. Now I have a new Vista (HP laptop) and would like to know what the best way to calibrate colors is? I could still use my LaCie CRT monitor but would rather not because of space limitations. Guess I’m assuming that technology in color matching has progressed in the last five years to the point where it is much simpler to do. Any suggestions are welcome. I’m starting from scratch.

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Bobby77501
Oct 12, 2009
On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:13:13 -0700, Mike Russell
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On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:00:39 -0400, wrote:

It’s been about five years since I used Photoshop (been sick). Now I’m feeling better and want to get back in the game. I used to have to calibrate my LaCie monitor – then calibrate my printer. Now I have a new Vista (HP laptop) and would like to know what the best way to calibrate colors is? I could still use my LaCie CRT monitor but would rather not because of space limitations. Guess I’m assuming that technology in color matching has progressed in the last five years to the point where it is much simpler to do. Any suggestions are welcome. I’m starting from scratch.

Remarkably little has happened in the last 5 years. In fact, this has not been a profitable market. The companies making calibration equipment have been going south, and merging with Gretag Macbeth. I’d recommend getting as good an LCD display as your budget can afford, plus a calibration device such as the Spyder Pro or the i1 display. Calibrating your printer is still cost prohibitive.

What do you mean by ‘cost prohibitive?’ The printed photo should look just like what you see on the monitor. BTW, do you have any recommendations on LCD monitors? Cost won’t be an issue.
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Bobby77501
Oct 12, 2009
On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:13:13 -0700, Mike Russell
wrote:

On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:00:39 -0400, wrote:

It’s been about five years since I used Photoshop (been sick). Now I’m feeling better and want to get back in the game. I used to have to calibrate my LaCie monitor – then calibrate my printer. Now I have a new Vista (HP laptop) and would like to know what the best way to calibrate colors is? I could still use my LaCie CRT monitor but would rather not because of space limitations. Guess I’m assuming that technology in color matching has progressed in the last five years to the point where it is much simpler to do. Any suggestions are welcome. I’m starting from scratch.

Remarkably little has happened in the last 5 years. In fact, this has not been a profitable market. The companies making calibration equipment have been going south, and merging with Gretag Macbeth. I’d recommend getting as good an LCD display as your budget can afford, plus a calibration device such as the Spyder Pro or the i1 display. Calibrating your printer is still cost prohibitive.

Who makes the i1 display?
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jaSPAMc
Oct 12, 2009
found these unused words:

It’s been about five years since I used Photoshop (been sick). Now I’m feeling better and want to get back in the game. I used to have to calibrate my LaCie monitor – then calibrate my printer. Now I have a new Vista (HP laptop) and would like to know what the best way to calibrate colors is? I could still use my LaCie CRT monitor but would rather not because of space limitations. Guess I’m assuming that technology in color matching has progressed in the last five years to the point where it is much simpler to do. Any suggestions are welcome. I’m starting from scratch.

Depends upon how serious you are about the ‘match’.

Still the only correct full procedure is to use an electonic calibrated ‘eye’ for setting the monitor, then use one of the professional ‘charts’ to scan and colour correct the scanner. The print and comapre the result with the ‘chart’ and adjust the printer until they match.

Several ‘kits’ are offered, but they are pricy.

In between, use one of the Kodak chip cards and match by eye with the monitor ‘set’ with Adobe Gamma.
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Mike Russell
Oct 12, 2009
On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:00:39 -0400, wrote:

It’s been about five years since I used Photoshop (been sick). Now I’m feeling better and want to get back in the game. I used to have to calibrate my LaCie monitor – then calibrate my printer. Now I have a new Vista (HP laptop) and would like to know what the best way to calibrate colors is? I could still use my LaCie CRT monitor but would rather not because of space limitations. Guess I’m assuming that technology in color matching has progressed in the last five years to the point where it is much simpler to do. Any suggestions are welcome. I’m starting from scratch.

Remarkably little has happened in the last 5 years. In fact, this has not been a profitable market. The companies making calibration equipment have been going south, and merging with Gretag Macbeth. I’d recommend getting as good an LCD display as your budget can afford, plus a calibration device such as the Spyder Pro or the i1 display. Calibrating your printer is still cost prohibitive.

Mike Russell – http://www.curvemeister.com
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Mike Russell
Oct 13, 2009
On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:36:09 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:13:13 -0700, Mike Russell
wrote:

On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:00:39 -0400, wrote:

It’s been about five years since I used Photoshop (been sick). Now I’m feeling better and want to get back in the game. I used to have to calibrate my LaCie monitor – then calibrate my printer. Now I have a new Vista (HP laptop) and would like to know what the best way to calibrate colors is? I could still use my LaCie CRT monitor but would rather not because of space limitations. Guess I’m assuming that technology in color matching has progressed in the last five years to the point where it is much simpler to do. Any suggestions are welcome. I’m starting from scratch.

Remarkably little has happened in the last 5 years. In fact, this has not been a profitable market. The companies making calibration equipment have been going south, and merging with Gretag Macbeth. I’d recommend getting as good an LCD display as your budget can afford, plus a calibration device such as the Spyder Pro or the i1 display. Calibrating your printer is still cost prohibitive.

What do you mean by ‘cost prohibitive?’

It’s possible to spend over $1000 and still not get a good match to your printer. If you have a printer that you want to calibrate, consider using a service to do so.

The printed photo should look
just like what you see on the monitor.

It is practical and possible to get a good match between monitor and printer. The print should be free of any color cast, and you should be able to predict the overall brightness of the print, as well as shadow and highlight detail from the monitor.

More than that, IMHO, is chasing a wil o’ the wisp. However, if you want to explore the cool color technology of today, check out the X-Rite colormunkee. It’s reasonably priced at under $400, and will calibrate just about anything. Still no guarantees that this is the color rosetta stone you’ve been waiting for though.

BTW, do you have any
recommendations on LCD monitors? Cost won’t be an issue.

Eizo would be high on my list, if money were not an issue, both for color accuracy and quality.

Mike Russell – http://www.curvemeister.com
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pshaw
Oct 13, 2009
in addition to the eizo cg series of monitors one might consider the "normlicht" light boxes that are not only 5000k but also can be set to the same light intensity as the eizo monitor. i use one to review prints in the evening.

steve

On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:49:20 -0700, Mike Russell
wrote:

On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:36:09 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:13:13 -0700, Mike Russell
wrote:

On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:00:39 -0400, wrote:

It’s been about five years since I used Photoshop (been sick). Now I’m feeling better and want to get back in the game. I used to have to calibrate my LaCie monitor – then calibrate my printer. Now I have a new Vista (HP laptop) and would like to know what the best way to calibrate colors is? I could still use my LaCie CRT monitor but would rather not because of space limitations. Guess I’m assuming that technology in color matching has progressed in the last five years to the point where it is much simpler to do. Any suggestions are welcome. I’m starting from scratch.

Remarkably little has happened in the last 5 years. In fact, this has not been a profitable market. The companies making calibration equipment have been going south, and merging with Gretag Macbeth. I’d recommend getting as good an LCD display as your budget can afford, plus a calibration device such as the Spyder Pro or the i1 display. Calibrating your printer is still cost prohibitive.

What do you mean by ‘cost prohibitive?’

It’s possible to spend over $1000 and still not get a good match to your printer. If you have a printer that you want to calibrate, consider using a service to do so.

The printed photo should look
just like what you see on the monitor.

It is practical and possible to get a good match between monitor and printer. The print should be free of any color cast, and you should be able to predict the overall brightness of the print, as well as shadow and highlight detail from the monitor.

More than that, IMHO, is chasing a wil o’ the wisp. However, if you want to explore the cool color technology of today, check out the X-Rite colormunkee. It’s reasonably priced at under $400, and will calibrate just about anything. Still no guarantees that this is the color rosetta stone you’ve been waiting for though.

BTW, do you have any
recommendations on LCD monitors? Cost won’t be an issue.

Eizo would be high on my list, if money were not an issue, both for color accuracy and quality.
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Mike Russell
Oct 13, 2009
BTW, rmo, welcome back, and speaking for all of us, we’re glad you’re back in the game again!

Mike Russell – http://www.curvemeister.com
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john
Oct 13, 2009
On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:49:20 -0700, Mike Russell
wrote:

On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:36:09 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:13:13 -0700, Mike Russell
wrote:

On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:00:39 -0400, wrote:

It’s been about five years since I used Photoshop (been sick). Now I’m feeling better and want to get back in the game. I used to have to calibrate my LaCie monitor – then calibrate my printer. Now I have a new Vista (HP laptop) and would like to know what the best way to calibrate colors is? I could still use my LaCie CRT monitor but would rather not because of space limitations. Guess I’m assuming that technology in color matching has progressed in the last five years to the point where it is much simpler to do. Any suggestions are welcome. I’m starting from scratch.

Remarkably little has happened in the last 5 years. In fact, this has not been a profitable market. The companies making calibration equipment have been going south, and merging with Gretag Macbeth. I’d recommend getting as good an LCD display as your budget can afford, plus a calibration device such as the Spyder Pro or the i1 display. Calibrating your printer is still cost prohibitive.

What do you mean by ‘cost prohibitive?’

It’s possible to spend over $1000 and still not get a good match to your printer. If you have a printer that you want to calibrate, consider using a service to do so.

The printed photo should look
just like what you see on the monitor.

It is practical and possible to get a good match between monitor and printer. The print should be free of any color cast, and you should be able to predict the overall brightness of the print, as well as shadow and highlight detail from the monitor.

More than that, IMHO, is chasing a wil o’ the wisp. However, if you want to explore the cool color technology of today, check out the X-Rite colormunkee. It’s reasonably priced at under $400, and will calibrate just about anything. Still no guarantees that this is the color rosetta stone you’ve been waiting for though.

BTW, do you have any
recommendations on LCD monitors? Cost won’t be an issue.

Eizo would be high on my list, if money were not an issue, both for color accuracy and quality.

What about the Colormunki monitor and printer calibration device for £270 or so in the UK .

Does anyone have any info about how well that works. It does not seem that expensive

John
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Bobby77501
Oct 13, 2009
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:50:03 -0700, Mike Russell
wrote:

BTW, rmo, welcome back, and speaking for all of us, we’re glad you’re back in the game again!

Thank – I’m surprised you remember me!!
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Mike Russell
Oct 14, 2009
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:05:54 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:50:03 -0700, Mike Russell
wrote:

BTW, rmo, welcome back, and speaking for all of us, we’re glad you’re back in the game again!

Thank – I’m surprised you remember me!!

Forget Bobby "O"? Never!

Mike Russell – http://www.curvemeister.com

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