cs3 and cs4

Martin Waddell wrote:

I know that I can instal cs4 without uninstalling cs3, thereby, having two versions of photoshop. Firstly, do they both have access to their own bridge programs? Secondly would it not be sensible to remove all traces of CS3 prior to installing CS4?

Not sure why you’d want both on there, not sure about the Bridge issue.

Should be able to do a standard uninstall of CS3 (using the Adobe tool or in Windblows the "remove software" tool). If there are vestiges left, it should not matter – certainly not on a Mac.

Martin Waddell wrote:

I know that I can instal cs4 without uninstalling cs3, thereby, having two versions of photoshop. Firstly, do they both have access to their own bridge programs?

Yes. Photoshop CS3 comes with Bridge CS3, Photoshop CS4 comes with Bridge CS4

Secondly would it not be sensible to remove all traces of CS3 prior to installing CS4?

Not more sensible than to remove all traces of Microsoft Word prior to installing Photoshop CS4.

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Johan W. Elzenga johan<<at>>johanfoto.nl Editor / Photographer http://www.johanfoto.com

CS4 took away contact sheets and gave us something else that makes PDF’s. I am sure glad CS3 stayed on my machine so I could make contact sheets.

"Martin Waddell" wrote in message

I know that I can instal cs4 without uninstalling cs3, thereby, having two versions of photoshop. Firstly, do they both have access to their own bridge programs? Secondly would it not be sensible to remove all traces of CS3 prior to installing CS4?

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:54:27 -0700, Pat wrote:

CS4 took away contact sheets and gave us something else that makes PDF’s. I am sure glad CS3 stayed on my machine so I could make contact sheets.

You can have both – contact sheets is in the goodies folder. —
Mike Russell – http://www.curvemeister.com

When I went to use contact sheets in CS4 I needed to make contact sheets right now. After a week or so I figured it out and was able to install contact sheets back into CS4. May not ever have a need again for CS3 but I am happy to have it hang around a while. If contact sheets ever go away I won’t be happy. The new way, making PDF’s, does not work for me.

"Mike Russell" wrote in message

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:54:27 -0700, Pat wrote:

CS4 took away contact sheets and gave us something else that makes PDF’s. I
am sure glad CS3 stayed on my machine so I could make contact sheets.

You can have both – contact sheets is in the goodies folder. —
Mike Russell – http://www.curvemeister.com

I know what you mean – I have several versions of PS installed. It’s mainly to support customers with various versions, but I always keep PS6 installed.

This was the last version that did not require registration via the Internet, and I don’t want to be stuck in the boonies with no Internet and no Photoshop!
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Mike Russell – http://www.curvemeister.com

On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:40:19 -0700, Pat wrote:

When I went to use contact sheets in CS4 I needed to make contact sheets right now. After a week or so I figured it out and was able to install contact sheets back into CS4. May not ever have a need again for CS3 but

I

am happy to have it hang around a while. If contact sheets ever go away

I

won’t be happy. The new way, making PDF’s, does not work for me.
"Mike Russell" wrote in message

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:54:27 -0700, Pat wrote:

CS4 took away contact sheets and gave us something else that makes

PDF’s.

I
am sure glad CS3 stayed on my machine so I could make contact sheets.

You can have both – contact sheets is in the goodies folder. —
Mike Russell – http://www.curvemeister.com

Mike Russell wrote:

I know what you mean – I have several versions of PS installed. It’s mainly to support customers with various versions, but I always keep PS6 installed.

This was the last version that did not require registration via the Internet, and I don’t want to be stuck in the boonies with no Internet and no Photoshop!

You won’t. Photoshop needs an internet connection to activate, but it doesn’t need one each time you run it after it has been activated. Just unplug your computer and try it.

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Johan W. Elzenga johan<<at>>johanfoto.nl Editor / Photographer http://www.johanfoto.com

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:17:00 +0100, Johan W. Elzenga wrote:

Mike Russell wrote:

I know what you mean – I have several versions of PS installed. It’s mainly to support customers with various versions, but I always keep PS6 installed.

This was the last version that did not require registration via the Internet, and I don’t want to be stuck in the boonies with no Internet and no Photoshop!

You won’t. Photoshop needs an internet connection to activate, but it doesn’t need one each time you run it after it has been activated. Just unplug your computer and try it.

Thanks, Johan. You do know I’ve been posting here for about 30 years, right? LOL.

What you say is generally the case, however the exact mechanism by which registration works is not known. People have found themselves needing to re-register at odd moments. Photoshop is important enough to me, while travelling, that it would be a significant problem *if* something goes wrong, and I were unable to do so because I did not have access to the internet.

As time passes, this is becoming less of an issue as more and more places have wifi access – at the same time, at 95 megabytes, it costs me almost nothing to have trusty old PS6 along for the ride.
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Mike Russell – http://www.curvemeister.com

Mike Russell wrote:

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:17:00 +0100, Johan W. Elzenga wrote:

Mike Russell wrote:

I know what you mean – I have several versions of PS installed. It’s mainly to support customers with various versions, but I always keep PS6 installed.

This was the last version that did not require registration via the Internet, and I don’t want to be stuck in the boonies with no Internet and no Photoshop!

You won’t. Photoshop needs an internet connection to activate, but it doesn’t need one each time you run it after it has been activated. Just unplug your computer and try it.

Thanks, Johan. You do know I’ve been posting here for about 30 years, right? LOL.

No, I don’t. I’ve only been here for about 25 years myself, so I have no idea if you were already here 5 years before me. 😉

What you say is generally the case, however the exact mechanism by which registration works is not known. People have found themselves needing to re-register at odd moments. Photoshop is important enough to me, while travelling, that it would be a significant problem *if* something goes wrong, and I were unable to do so because I did not have access to the internet.

Do you carry a spare computer too on your trips? After all, you could also drop your computer… 😉 Seriously; I never had to re-activate (it’s activation you’re talking about, not registration) Photoshop, but a security guard at Nairobi Airport did drop my laptop once (fortunately I was on my way home and I do make backups).

As time passes, this is becoming less of an issue as more and more places have wifi access – at the same time, at 95 megabytes, it costs me almost nothing to have trusty old PS6 along for the ride.

For as long as it still works on newer operating systems. PS6 doesn’t run on the latest Macs anymore, and I wouldn’t be surprised if it doesn’t run on Windows 7 either. And it certainly doesn’t open my RAW files…

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Johan W. Elzenga johan<<at>>johanfoto.nl Editor / Photographer http://www.johanfoto.com

On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 00:27:25 +0100, Johan W. Elzenga wrote:

Do you carry a spare computer too on your trips? After all, you could also drop your computer… 😉 Seriously; I never had to re-activate

Are you actually trying to convince me that it doesn’t make sense for me to carry PS6 around as a spare? Give me a break, John.
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Mike Russell – http://www.curvemeister.com

Mike Russell wrote:

On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 00:27:25 +0100, Johan W. Elzenga wrote:

Do you carry a spare computer too on your trips? After all, you could also drop your computer… 😉 Seriously; I never had to re-activate

Are you actually trying to convince me that it doesn’t make sense for me to carry PS6 around as a spare? Give me a break, John.

No I’m not. IF (but that’s becoming more and more a big IF) PS6 still works on your system, why not carry it around as a spare. If you hadn’t clipped the last part of my message, you would have seen that.

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Johan W. Elzenga johan<<at>>johanfoto.nl Editor / Photographer http://www.johanfoto.com

Johan W. Elzenga wrote:

For as long as it still works on newer operating systems. PS6 doesn’t run on the latest Macs anymore,

Install VMWare or Parallels on the Mac and WinXP under that. (I use VMWare as my "legacy" platform from WinXP – though I need it less and less).

Alan Browne wrote:

Johan W. Elzenga wrote:

For as long as it still works on newer operating systems. PS6 doesn’t run on the latest Macs anymore,

Install VMWare or Parallels on the Mac and WinXP under that. (I use VMWare as my "legacy" platform from WinXP – though I need it less and less).

Yes, you could do that, I suppose. However, because PS6 doesn’t open my RAW files anyway, I personally do not think that keeping PS6 is a viable alternative if PS CS4 suddenly asks for activation and I have no internet connection. I think installing GIMP is probably a better idea.

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Johan W. Elzenga johan<<at>>johanfoto.nl Editor / Photographer http://www.johanfoto.com

Johan W. Elzenga wrote:

Alan Browne wrote:

Johan W. Elzenga wrote:

For as long as it still works on newer operating systems. PS6 doesn’t run on the latest Macs anymore,

Install VMWare or Parallels on the Mac and WinXP under that. (I use VMWare as my "legacy" platform from WinXP – though I need it less and less).

Yes, you could do that, I suppose. However, because PS6 doesn’t open my RAW files anyway, I personally do not think that keeping PS6 is a viable alternative if PS CS4 suddenly asks for activation and I have no internet connection. I think installing GIMP is probably a better idea.

Certainly I’d consider GIMP as a backup editor. I’ve never had an issue with PS (Elements (3, 6), CS3) not starting because there was no internet connection. I just don’t like Gimp very much.

Johan W. Elzenga wrote:

For as long as it still works on newer operating systems. PS6 doesn’t run on the latest Macs anymore, and I wouldn’t be surprised if it doesn’t run on Windows 7 either.

JFTR, PS 6.0.1 runs on 64-bit Windows 7 RC. (I haven’t got round to installing the RTM version yet.)

Andrew