Moving text and other layers at same time?

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Apr 1, 2005
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Photoshop 7.01

I have an image with a text layer and two vector mask layers that I need to move a bit.

I’d like to be able to move them all at the same time so I don’t have to zoom in and fiddle them into place one at a time.

I selected the text layer then linked the two vector mask layers. Doesn’t work, all move individually.

I tried unlinking then selecting one vector mask layer and linking the other to it. The first selected layer now will not move, yet a Move entry appears in History. The second vector mask layer will move.

The text layer is the the letter w from the Sure-Thing
Symbols font (comes with the Sure-Thing CD lable program) which looks like the Mac OS logo. To provide the two shades of blue, I created freeform shapes on layers behind the
logo and filled them with colors sampled from an EPS logos file I found somewhere on apple’s website.

So, how do I get these layers to stick together, without rasterizing or merging them or otherwise destroying their vector/scalable nature?

If it can’t be done, just say "Can’t be done." and I’ll just have to do it the same fiddly way I got the layers
aligned in their current positions. 🙁

(It’d be nice if Adobe would’ve just made it so the user could shift or ctrl click multiple layers in Layers so
they could be moved together. I guess that after SEVEN
major versions that bit of _logical process_ just isn’t
going to happen. If that can’t be done in CS, make that
EIGHT major versions. It’s only a big feature in the
file managers of the OSes Photoshop runs on… no reason for Adobe to think it’d be useful in _their_ software…)


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Brian
Apr 1, 2005
GAlan wrote:
Photoshop 7.01

I have an image with a text layer and two vector mask layers that I need to move a bit.

I’d like to be able to move them all at the same time so I don’t have to zoom in and fiddle them into place one at a time.
I selected the text layer then linked the two vector mask layers. Doesn’t work, all move individually.

I tried unlinking then selecting one vector mask layer and linking the other to it. The first selected layer now will not move, yet a Move entry appears in History. The second vector mask layer will move.

The text layer is the the letter w from the Sure-Thing
Symbols font (comes with the Sure-Thing CD lable program) which looks like the Mac OS logo. To provide the two shades of blue, I created freeform shapes on layers behind the
logo and filled them with colors sampled from an EPS logos file I found somewhere on apple’s website.

So, how do I get these layers to stick together, without rasterizing or merging them or otherwise destroying their vector/scalable nature?

If it can’t be done, just say "Can’t be done." and I’ll just have to do it the same fiddly way I got the layers
aligned in their current positions. 🙁

(It’d be nice if Adobe would’ve just made it so the user could shift or ctrl click multiple layers in Layers so
they could be moved together. I guess that after SEVEN
major versions that bit of _logical process_ just isn’t
going to happen. If that can’t be done in CS, make that
EIGHT major versions. It’s only a big feature in the
file managers of the OSes Photoshop runs on… no reason for Adobe to think it’d be useful in _their_ software…)
Hi GAlan,

I do not have PS 7, but assuming it works the same as PS CS, you can move more than one layer at a time. Click on the first layer you want to move, then click in the "link" box in the Layer Palette for each other layer you want to also move. Then they will all move at the same time.

Regards,
Brian.
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Hecate
Apr 1, 2005
On 1 Apr 2005 08:50:37 GMT, GAlan
wrote:

(It’d be nice if Adobe would’ve just made it so the user could shift or ctrl click multiple layers in Layers so
they could be moved together. I guess that after SEVEN
major versions that bit of _logical process_ just isn’t
going to happen. If that can’t be done in CS, make that
EIGHT major versions. It’s only a big feature in the
file managers of the OSes Photoshop runs on… no reason for Adobe to think it’d be useful in _their_ software…)

Look up layer sets in the Help file. Then make a layer set and move them as one.



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SamMan
Apr 1, 2005
"Brian" wrote in message
GAlan wrote:
Photoshop 7.01

I have an image with a text layer and two vector mask layers that I need to move a bit.

I’d like to be able to move them all at the same time so I don’t have to zoom in and fiddle them into place one at a time.
I selected the text layer then linked the two vector mask layers. Doesn’t work, all move individually.

I tried unlinking then selecting one vector mask layer and linking the other to it. The first selected layer now will not move, yet a Move entry appears in History. The second vector mask layer will move.

The text layer is the the letter w from the Sure-Thing
Symbols font (comes with the Sure-Thing CD lable program) which looks like the Mac OS logo. To provide the two shades of blue, I created freeform shapes on layers behind the
logo and filled them with colors sampled from an EPS logos file I found somewhere on apple’s website.

So, how do I get these layers to stick together, without rasterizing or merging them or otherwise destroying their vector/scalable nature?

If it can’t be done, just say "Can’t be done." and I’ll just have to do it the same fiddly way I got the layers
aligned in their current positions. 🙁

(It’d be nice if Adobe would’ve just made it so the user could shift or ctrl click multiple layers in Layers so
they could be moved together. I guess that after SEVEN
major versions that bit of _logical process_ just isn’t
going to happen. If that can’t be done in CS, make that
EIGHT major versions. It’s only a big feature in the
file managers of the OSes Photoshop runs on… no reason for Adobe to think it’d be useful in _their_ software…)
Hi GAlan,

I do not have PS 7, but assuming it works the same as PS CS, you can move more than one layer at a time. Click on the first layer you want to move, then click in the "link" box in the Layer Palette for each other layer you want to also move. Then they will all move at the same time.
Regards,
Brian.

You’d think that they should & would…
I’m using CS at work, and just the other day, I was having the same problem with moving text layers & shape layers that were linked. If I rasterised the shapes, then all was well. Not the best solution if you want to keep your shapes in a vector format…


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edjh
Apr 1, 2005
GAlan wrote:
Photoshop 7.01

I have an image with a text layer and two vector mask layers that I need to move a bit.

I’d like to be able to move them all at the same time so I don’t have to zoom in and fiddle them into place one at a time.
I selected the text layer then linked the two vector mask layers. Doesn’t work, all move individually.

I tried unlinking then selecting one vector mask layer and linking the other to it. The first selected layer now will not move, yet a Move entry appears in History. The second vector mask layer will move.

The text layer is the the letter w from the Sure-Thing
Symbols font (comes with the Sure-Thing CD lable program) which looks like the Mac OS logo. To provide the two shades of blue, I created freeform shapes on layers behind the
logo and filled them with colors sampled from an EPS logos file I found somewhere on apple’s website.

So, how do I get these layers to stick together, without rasterizing or merging them or otherwise destroying their vector/scalable nature?

If it can’t be done, just say "Can’t be done." and I’ll just have to do it the same fiddly way I got the layers
aligned in their current positions. 🙁

(It’d be nice if Adobe would’ve just made it so the user could shift or ctrl click multiple layers in Layers so
they could be moved together. I guess that after SEVEN
major versions that bit of _logical process_ just isn’t
going to happen. If that can’t be done in CS, make that
EIGHT major versions. It’s only a big feature in the
file managers of the OSes Photoshop runs on… no reason for Adobe to think it’d be useful in _their_ software…)

No problem here moving text and Shape layers together in 7. You’re not linked to a Background are you? Any error message? Make sure there’s no active selection (crawly ants).


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SamMan
Apr 1, 2005
"edjh" wrote in message
GAlan wrote:
Photoshop 7.01

I have an image with a text layer and two vector mask layers that I need to move a bit.

I’d like to be able to move them all at the same time so I don’t have to zoom in and fiddle them into place one at a time.
I selected the text layer then linked the two vector mask layers. Doesn’t work, all move individually.

I tried unlinking then selecting one vector mask layer and linking the other to it. The first selected layer now will not move, yet a Move entry appears in History. The second vector mask layer will move.

The text layer is the the letter w from the Sure-Thing
Symbols font (comes with the Sure-Thing CD lable program) which looks like the Mac OS logo. To provide the two shades of blue, I created freeform shapes on layers behind the
logo and filled them with colors sampled from an EPS logos file I found somewhere on apple’s website.

So, how do I get these layers to stick together, without rasterizing or merging them or otherwise destroying their vector/scalable nature?

If it can’t be done, just say "Can’t be done." and I’ll just have to do it the same fiddly way I got the layers
aligned in their current positions. 🙁

(It’d be nice if Adobe would’ve just made it so the user could shift or ctrl click multiple layers in Layers so
they could be moved together. I guess that after SEVEN
major versions that bit of _logical process_ just isn’t
going to happen. If that can’t be done in CS, make that
EIGHT major versions. It’s only a big feature in the
file managers of the OSes Photoshop runs on… no reason for Adobe to think it’d be useful in _their_ software…)

No problem here moving text and Shape layers together in 7. You’re not linked to a Background are you? Any error message? Make sure there’s no active selection (crawly ants).

In v7, it works for me too (what I have at home), but in CS for some reason, it would not let me. No locked bg is selected, no marquee, just two text layers & one shape layer. The bad thing is that since the CS version is at work, and I at home at the moment, I can’t re-verify this.

Should work for the OP, but CS is still acting strange…


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GAlan
Apr 2, 2005
Hecate wrote in
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On 1 Apr 2005 08:50:37 GMT, GAlan
wrote:

(It’d be nice if Adobe would’ve just made it so the user could shift or ctrl click multiple layers in Layers so
they could be moved together. I guess that after SEVEN
major versions that bit of _logical process_ just isn’t
going to happen. If that can’t be done in CS, make that
EIGHT major versions. It’s only a big feature in the
file managers of the OSes Photoshop runs on… no reason for Adobe to think it’d be useful in _their_ software…)

Look up layer sets in the Help file. Then make a layer set and move them as one.

Tried that, it won’t enable the menu option to create a
layer set from the linked layers. I can create a NEW layer set, but there’s no way to transfer pre-existing layers
into that new set. Would be nice if I could create a new, empty, layer set then somehow (like dragging and dropping, revolutionary concept, huh?) move any pre-existing layers into the new set.


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GAlan
Apr 2, 2005
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No problem here moving text and Shape layers together in 7. You’re not linked to a Background are you? Any error message? Make sure there’s no active selection (crawly ants).

No to all of those. Did you try only having a single character in the text layer, with no blending styles or other effects?


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edjh
Apr 2, 2005
GAlan wrote:
edjh wrote in news:kTk3e.693$bI3.63176
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No problem here moving text and Shape layers together in 7. You’re not linked to a Background are you? Any error message? Make sure there’s no active selection (crawly ants).

No to all of those. Did you try only having a single character in the text layer, with no blending styles or other effects?
Yep; works perfectly. Also you CAN drag layers into Layer Sets. Either you’re doing something wrong or something’s wrong with your Photoshop. Have you tried trashing preferences?


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Brian
Apr 2, 2005
SamMan wrote:
"Brian" wrote in message

GAlan wrote:

Photoshop 7.01

I have an image with a text layer and two vector mask layers that I need to move a bit.

I’d like to be able to move them all at the same time so I don’t have to zoom in and fiddle them into place one at a time.
I selected the text layer then linked the two vector mask layers. Doesn’t work, all move individually.

I tried unlinking then selecting one vector mask layer and linking the other to it. The first selected layer now will not move, yet a Move entry appears in History. The second vector mask layer will move.

The text layer is the the letter w from the Sure-Thing
Symbols font (comes with the Sure-Thing CD lable program) which looks like the Mac OS logo. To provide the two shades of blue, I created freeform shapes on layers behind the
logo and filled them with colors sampled from an EPS logos file I found somewhere on apple’s website.

So, how do I get these layers to stick together, without rasterizing or merging them or otherwise destroying their vector/scalable nature?

If it can’t be done, just say "Can’t be done." and I’ll just have to do it the same fiddly way I got the layers
aligned in their current positions. 🙁

(It’d be nice if Adobe would’ve just made it so the user could shift or ctrl click multiple layers in Layers so
they could be moved together. I guess that after SEVEN
major versions that bit of _logical process_ just isn’t
going to happen. If that can’t be done in CS, make that
EIGHT major versions. It’s only a big feature in the
file managers of the OSes Photoshop runs on… no reason for Adobe to think it’d be useful in _their_ software…)

Hi GAlan,

I do not have PS 7, but assuming it works the same as PS CS, you can move more than one layer at a time. Click on the first layer you want to move, then click in the "link" box in the Layer Palette for each other layer you want to also move. Then they will all move at the same time.
Regards,
Brian.

You’d think that they should & would…
I’m using CS at work, and just the other day, I was having the same problem with moving text layers & shape layers that were linked. If I rasterised the shapes, then all was well. Not the best solution if you want to keep your shapes in a vector format…
Aha, thanks for that SamMan. I only tried it with bitmaps and text and that worked fine. I did not try vectors as well.

Brian.
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Brian
Apr 2, 2005
(It’d be nice if Adobe would’ve just made it so the user could shift or ctrl click multiple layers in Layers so
they could be moved together.

Yes, like certain other programmes which can do that (mentioning no names Hecate, *wink*)

I guess that after SEVEN
major versions that bit of _logical process_ just isn’t
going to happen. If that can’t be done in CS, make that
EIGHT major versions. It’s only a big feature in the
file managers of the OSes Photoshop runs on… no reason for Adobe to think it’d be useful in _their_ software…)

Now come on GA, no programme does "everything", you have to be happy with the vast number of things PS does perform, and well. Write-in to Adobe and add those features to the wishlist, you never know!

Brian.
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Hecate
Apr 3, 2005
On 2 Apr 2005 04:47:01 GMT, GAlan
wrote:

Hecate wrote in
news::

On 1 Apr 2005 08:50:37 GMT, GAlan
wrote:

(It’d be nice if Adobe would’ve just made it so the user could shift or ctrl click multiple layers in Layers so
they could be moved together. I guess that after SEVEN
major versions that bit of _logical process_ just isn’t
going to happen. If that can’t be done in CS, make that
EIGHT major versions. It’s only a big feature in the
file managers of the OSes Photoshop runs on… no reason for Adobe to think it’d be useful in _their_ software…)

Look up layer sets in the Help file. Then make a layer set and move them as one.

Tried that, it won’t enable the menu option to create a
layer set from the linked layers. I can create a NEW layer set, but there’s no way to transfer pre-existing layers
into that new set. Would be nice if I could create a new, empty, layer set then somehow (like dragging and dropping, revolutionary concept, huh?) move any pre-existing layers into the new set.

Yes there is. Click the layer set icon at the bottom of the layers set palette and create a new layer set. Drag and drop all the layers you want to put into that layer set. Then link all the layers in the layer set and make sure that at least one of the layers is active. Now you can move the layer set. Alternatively, you can leave the layers within the set unlinked, click on the layer set in the layers palette, and then use the move tool on the image to move the entire contents of the set.



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Hecate
Apr 3, 2005
On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 00:46:34 +1000, Brian
wrote:

(It’d be nice if Adobe would’ve just made it so the user could shift or ctrl click multiple layers in Layers so
they could be moved together.

Yes, like certain other programmes which can do that (mentioning no names Hecate, *wink*)
See my explanation on how to use and move layer sets. 🙂



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Brian
Apr 3, 2005
Hecate wrote:
On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 00:46:34 +1000, Brian
wrote:

(It’d be nice if Adobe would’ve just made it so the user

could shift or ctrl click multiple layers in Layers so
they could be moved together.

Yes, like certain other programmes which can do that (mentioning no names Hecate, *wink*)

See my explanation on how to use and move layer sets. 🙂


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I know, I was feeding off edjh and teasing you. I am not familiar enough with PS to know all of its capabilities yet, but I am learning more and more everyday 🙂 There is usually a way (or several) to do anything you need to do, even if not necessarily the way one would expect to do it.

Have a good weekend.

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GAlan
Apr 4, 2005
Hecate wrote in
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Yes there is. Click the layer set icon at the bottom of the layers set palette and create a new layer set. Drag and drop all the layers you want to put into that layer set. Then link all the layers in the layer set and make sure that at least one of the layers is active. Now you can move the layer set. Alternatively, you can leave the layers within the set unlinked, click on the layer set in the layers palette, and then use the move tool on the image to move the entire contents of the set.

Finally got it to allow dragging layers into a new set.

1. Create the new set.
2. Unlink the layers that will be in the set.
3. Click a layer that’s going into the set.
4. Click and drag on the _thumbnail_ on the left in the layer.
5. Drag over the _name text_ so that it highlights, then drop.

I had to do that several times before PS would let me get all the layers into the set. Most of the time I could get one or two layers in, then all it’d do is give me the
barred circle. Dunno why, I was doing it the same way!

It’d be nice to know why it’s so picky about exactly where the layers are being "grabbed" to drag them and why it has to be dropped onto the name text of the set. When a
layer is selected the _entire bar_ highlights, not just
its name text.

In other words, why doesn’t Adobe simply follow the user interface conventions of the OS its products run on?
That’s the big reason for a GUI, so EVERY APPLICATION’S
BASIC FUNCTIONALITY WORKS THE SAME, to make it easier
for the user. But instead, many software companies still act like it’s the 1980’s DOS days, where every program
used different commands and shortcut keys. 😛


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