Heavy Handed Fascist Approach to user Forums – Immediate suppression of every attempt to discuss sof

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May 22, 2004
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Three threads discussing software activation yesterday were killed within hours of their opening by marking them read only (R/O). The reason given was that the topic had been discussed "more than enough" already. Thats a contradiction in terms. Anybody reading or contributing to a thread is doing so of their own free will, and because they choose to. They either find the topic interesting, stimulating or otherwise worth their while. Otherwise they just wouldn’t bother. So its simply a contradiction to say its been talked about enough already. Any topic that has been talked about enough already will simply wither away by itself, out of disinterest. There’s no need for some heavy handed moderator to forbid users to continue posting to it, and if there’s a need then the excuse given is invalid.

And anyways, who gives Adobe moderators a right to forbid discussion on a relevant topics that interest users? Is Adobe concerned that it might be a waste of a few kilobytes on the server’s hard disk? This doesn’t sound like the freedom of speech that Americans, in particular, are so proud to enjoy, and proclaim. This sounds a lot more like a fascist repressive attitude and a healthy portion of "don’t talk about things that we wouldn’t like to hear or we will shut you up"

In fact the main reason I feel so strongly about software activation, is the same reason why I object to this kind of heavy handed "shutting up" of voices that the "powers that be" don’t want to have heard. Software activation is above all invasive. Your computer is no longer yours. Just like the moderators seem to think they can tell us what we can talk about, software manufactures want to tell you what you can do with your computer. You have to ask the permission of those you have already paid, if you may use it. Sure in mild way -for now- … of course all software manufactures are trying to ween users gently over, making the (re)activation process as simple and uncomplicated as possible. But who’s to say it will stay like that? Does Adobe or any other software manufacturer promise to always reactivate software you buy, indefinitely. Most certainly not. Thats the point. And even if they did perhaps it will become technically impossible while officially possible. Maybe you’ll discover ne day that you keep getting an engaged tone when you try to reactivate a non current version, or the activation server wont respond. Who’s to guarantee the company will even exist in 5 years? That it hasnt gone out of business or been bought up by some other company who has a different policy?

The bottom line is that activation is about distrust. The software manufacturer’s are making a clear statement. We don’t trust you, but accept what we’re doing because we promise that you can trust us!? And when we shut up and contributions on the user forum on the topic, its for your own good. Were just protecting you from information and freedom of speech that wouldn’t be good for you.

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John_R_Nielsen
May 22, 2004
I, for one, am glad this forum is no longer cluttered with anti-activation screeds.
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Jim
May 22, 2004
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I, for one, am glad this forum is no longer cluttered with anti-activation
screeds.

Me too. This forum is moderated, and from the looks of the OP, it needs to be.

Jim
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BobLevine
May 22, 2004
This one’s R/O also. Your posts are now bordering on spam and unless you have something new to add will be deleted.

Bob
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Baabin
May 22, 2004
Well, to answer your question…

Let’s see, the moderator FOUNDED the group, SET THE RULES FOR THE GROUP, and IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE GROUP’s Conduct if it is moderated. Unlike your parents evidently, he forgot to ask you for permission to fulfill the responsibilities encompassed, so my advice is to go through the hassle of setting your own newsgroup up if you don’t like it there. Then you can deal with the flame wars and the legal matters that might cross your plate. Perhaps then you will understand that the world does not cater to your version of life and that you are but one in a cast of thousands…

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Three threads discussing software activation yesterday were killed within
hours of their opening by marking them read only (R/O). The reason given was that the topic had been discussed "more than enough" already. Thats a contradiction in terms. Anybody reading or contributing to a thread is doing so of their own free will, and because they choose to. They either find the topic interesting, stimulating or otherwise worth their while. Otherwise they just wouldn’t bother. So its simply a contradiction to say its been talked about enough already. Any topic that has been talked about enough already will simply wither away by itself, out of disinterest. There’s no need for some heavy handed moderator to forbid users to continue posting to it, and if there’s a need then the excuse given is invalid.
And anyways, who gives Adobe moderators a right to forbid discussion on a
relevant topics that interest users? Is Adobe concerned that it might be a waste of a few kilobytes on the server’s hard disk? This doesn’t sound like the freedom of speech that Americans, in particular, are so proud to enjoy, and proclaim. This sounds a lot more like a fascist repressive attitude and a healthy portion of "don’t talk about things that we wouldn’t like to hear or we will shut you up"
In fact the main reason I feel so strongly about software activation, is
the same reason why I object to this kind of heavy handed "shutting up" of voices that the "powers that be" don’t want to have heard. Software activation is above all invasive. Your computer is no longer yours. Just like the moderators seem to think they can tell us what we can talk about, software manufactures want to tell you what you can do with your computer. You have to ask the permission of those you have already paid, if you may use it. Sure in mild way -for now- … of course all software manufactures are trying to ween users gently over, making the (re)activation process as simple and uncomplicated as possible. But who’s to say it will stay like that? Does Adobe or any other software manufacturer promise to always reactivate software you buy, indefinitely. Most certainly not. Thats the point. And even if they did perhaps it will become technically impossible while officially possible. Maybe you’ll discover ne day that you keep getting an engaged tone when you try to reactivate a non current version, or the activation server wont respond. Who’s to guarantee the company will even exist in 5 years? That it hasnt gone out of business or been bought up by some other company who has a different policy?
The bottom line is that activation is about distrust. The software
manufacturer’s are making a clear statement. We don’t trust you, but accept what we’re doing because we promise that you can trust us!? And when we shut up and contributions on the user forum on the topic, its for your own good. Were just protecting you from information and freedom of speech that wouldn’t be good for you.

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