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Apr 14, 2005
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"Nicolas Tade" wrote in message
Hi,

is there a possibility to preview the psd-files in the windows-explorer, if the View-Option is set to Thumbnails? I can see all the jpegs and gifs but no psds..
Maybe there is, because to view the psd-files you do not have to have photoshop installed, every picture viewer can show them, so why not the windows explorer (e.g. plugin) ?

Thanks,
Nico

It’s been disabled in Photoshop CS.

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Nicolas Hoch
Apr 14, 2005
Hi,

is there a possibility to preview the psd-files in the windows-explorer, if the View-Option is set to Thumbnails? I can see all the jpegs and gifs but no psds..
Maybe there is, because to view the psd-files you do not have to have photoshop installed, every picture viewer can show them, so why not the windows explorer (e.g. plugin) ?

Thanks,
Nico
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Nicolas Hoch
Apr 14, 2005
It’s been disabled in Photoshop CS.

What has been disabled?
I was talking about previewing them in the native microsoft windows explorer…
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harrylimey
Apr 14, 2005
"Nicolas Tade" wrote in message
Hi,

is there a possibility to preview the psd-files in the windows-explorer,
if
the View-Option is set to Thumbnails? I can see all the jpegs and gifs but no psds..
Maybe there is, because to view the psd-files you do not have to have photoshop installed, every picture viewer can show them, so why not the windows explorer (e.g. plugin) ?

Thanks,
Nico

There was a recent discussion of this on one of these newsgroups, and I believe Hecate explained that although this was a possibility with PS7 there were viewing problems with windows and so the necessary .dll was intentionally omitted from PScs – so if you have PScs the answer is no!!

Harry
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Tacit
Apr 14, 2005
In article ,
"Nicolas Tade" wrote:

What has been disabled?
I was talking about previewing them in the native microsoft windows explorer…

Correct.

Microsoft Explorer does not actually do the previewing. What actually happens, deep under the hood of your operating system, is that Microsoft Explorer says "Aha, this is a JPEG…let me see, a JPEG is a picture, so I will look for a .dll that can read this picture and give me back a thumbnail, and then i will show a thumbnal. Okay, let’s see…this is a ..PSD, a .PSD is a picture, so i will now search for a .dll that can read this .PSD and then give me back a thumbnail…"

The problem is that for large images, especially large complex images, the process of starting the .dll, reading the picture, creating the thumbnail, and handing the thumbnail back to Explorer can be extremely time-intensive.

It LOOKS like Explorer is creating and displaying the thumbnails, but that is not actually what is happening. It is up to the host app to create thumbnails for images in formats not natively supported by the Windows libraries; in the case of a .PSD, that means it’s up to Photoshop. You might not know that a part of Photoshop is running, loading the picture into memory, and creating a thumbnail for you every time you use Windows Explorer to open a folder full of Photoshop files, but that is exactly what’s happening.


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harrylimey
Apr 14, 2005
"Nicolas Tade" wrote in message
intentionally omitted from PScs – so if you have PScs the answer is no!!

So the .dll from PS7 is not working for images generated by CS? Is the format different or what?

Not sure about that – but I have copied and pasted from the comp.graphics.apps.ps newsgroup so you can see the original post – I would have directed you to it if I knew how!!! It is actually the psicon.dll and not the psicons.dll as stated below!! I did wonder if it would be possible to copy the dll from someone with PS7 and paste to the PSCS directory and thereby allow thumbnails? – if anyone has PS7 and would be willing to send a copy – we could try it I suppose???

Harry

"That’s because it has nothing to do with the OS.

The problem is that Adobe created a .dll (psicons.dll) that interpreted the image and allowed Windows to show a Thumbnail. However, the implementation was so awful and Adobe had so many complaints (it was a prime source of several different methods of crashing Explorer) that they withdrew the .dll when they released PSCS. Consequently, if you have PS7 on your computer you will, normally, be able to see thumbnails. If you upgrade to CS and leave 7 on your machine you still will. If, however, you remove 7 then you will no longer be able to view thumbnails. Windows has no native ability to view the files and without psicon.dll, the ability disappears.

IMHO, Adobe made the sensible decision. Although there may be people who didn’t have a problem, the more people used that file, the more problems appeared both system wide and in PS itself.



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Nicolas Hoch
Apr 14, 2005
This one I understood. Thank you!
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Nicolas Hoch
Apr 14, 2005
intentionally omitted from PScs – so if you have PScs the answer is no!!

So the .dll from PS7 is not working for images generated by CS? Is the format different or what?

No one out there to create a new dll? Adobe?
Nico
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SCRUFF
Apr 14, 2005
You might try ACDSEE. It does a great job of previewing psd files as well as a lot of other wonderful things.
http://www.acdsystems.com/English/index.htm

"Nicolas Tade" wrote in message
Hi,

is there a possibility to preview the psd-files in the windows-explorer,
if
the View-Option is set to Thumbnails? I can see all the jpegs and gifs but no psds..
Maybe there is, because to view the psd-files you do not have to have photoshop installed, every picture viewer can show them, so why not the windows explorer (e.g. plugin) ?

Thanks,
Nico

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Hecate
Apr 14, 2005
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 22:28:15 +0100, "Harry Limey" wrote:

"Nicolas Tade" wrote in message
intentionally omitted from PScs – so if you have PScs the answer is no!!

So the .dll from PS7 is not working for images generated by CS? Is the format different or what?

Not sure about that – but I have copied and pasted from the comp.graphics.apps.ps newsgroup so you can see the original post – I would have directed you to it if I knew how!!! It is actually the psicon.dll and not the psicons.dll as stated below!! I did wonder if it would be possible to copy the dll from someone with PS7 and paste to the PSCS directory and thereby allow thumbnails? – if anyone has PS7 and would be willing to send a copy – we could try it I suppose???

Harry
Thank you for saving me the time of copying and pasting 🙂



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noone
Apr 15, 2005
In article , says…
Hi,

is there a possibility to preview the psd-files in the windows-explorer, if the View-Option is set to Thumbnails? I can see all the jpegs and gifs but no psds..
Maybe there is, because to view the psd-files you do not have to have photoshop installed, every picture viewer can show them, so why not the windows explorer (e.g. plugin) ?

Thanks,
Nico

Nico,

You got the answer to your question. Scruff had one workaround, and another is ThumbsPlus, which handles PSDs fine. It is not free, but does a ton of other neat viewing, organizing, editing stuff. Maybe with CS2 there will be a new, working .dll. Until then, we can only use other programs, instead of Explorer.

Hunt
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SCRUFF
Apr 15, 2005
"Hecate" wrote in message
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 22:28:15 +0100, "Harry Limey" wrote:

"Nicolas Tade" wrote in message
intentionally omitted from PScs – so if you have PScs the answer is
no!!
So the .dll from PS7 is not working for images generated by CS? Is the format different or what?

Not sure about that – but I have copied and pasted from the comp.graphics.apps.ps newsgroup so you can see the original post – I
would
have directed you to it if I knew how!!! It is actually the psicon.dll
and
not the psicons.dll as stated below!! I did wonder if it would be
possible
to copy the dll from someone with PS7 and paste to the PSCS directory and thereby allow thumbnails? – if anyone has PS7 and would be willing to
send a
copy – we could try it I suppose???

Harry
Thank you for saving me the time of copying and pasting 🙂


Hecate – The Real One
LOL, I can’t believe I went to the trouble!
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Roy
Apr 15, 2005
"Hunt" wrote in message
In article , says…
Hi,

is there a possibility to preview the psd-files in the windows-explorer, if
the View-Option is set to Thumbnails? I can see all the jpegs and gifs but no psds..
Maybe there is, because to view the psd-files you do not have to have photoshop installed, every picture viewer can show them, so why not the windows explorer (e.g. plugin) ?

Thanks,
Nico

Nico,

You got the answer to your question. Scruff had one workaround, and another is
ThumbsPlus, which handles PSDs fine. It is not free, but does a ton of other
neat viewing, organizing, editing stuff. Maybe with CS2 there will be a new,
working .dll. Until then, we can only use other programs, instead of Explorer.

Hunt

This was discussed just the other day.

I said I could see some of my thumbnails, but not all of them.

I now realise that that is probably because I still have Ps 6 on the machine. I never really use it, but will now open and "save as" some pictures to see if the missing thumbnails then appear in Windows.

Roy G
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Nicolas Hoch
Apr 15, 2005
ThumbsPlus, which handles PSDs fine. It is not free, but does a ton of other
neat viewing, organizing, editing stuff. Maybe with CS2 there will be a new,
working .dll. Until then, we can only use other programs, instead of Explorer.

I know acdsee. As far as I could see on the thumbsplus webpage, this is also an extra programm you have to start for viewing the file! Even if you buy it, it does not allow you to directly preview the files in the windows explorer folder, which would be most convenient. Correct me if that is wrong!
In that case, I can stick to using XnView for that, which is pretty fine. Nico
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Frank
Apr 17, 2005
Nicolas Tade wrote:

Hi,

is there a possibility to preview the psd-files in the windows-explorer, if the View-Option is set to Thumbnails? I can see all the jpegs and gifs but no psds..
Maybe there is, because to view the psd-files you do not have to have photoshop installed, every picture viewer can show them, so why not the windows explorer (e.g. plugin) ?

Thanks,
Nico
Install CS then install PS7. Thumbnails will then work.
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