Save for the web???

"dfnNOSPAM" wrote in message

Hi Group,

I am informed that the new versions of windows (XP) now work in 96dpi.
Can anyone tell me how to adjust my save for the web feature in Photoshop

7

to save at the 96dpi?

Thanks in advance to all those who take the time to reply.
David

Am I missing something here but…. what if I have say, my screen running at say 1024×768, or 1600×600…. or stretched across two screens for multidesktopping. Wont that kinda screw up any "dpi" measurement. 1" on a 800×600 screen works out around 72 dots… assuming a 15" display? Blah… this always confuses me anyway

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"dfnNOSPAM" wrote in message

Hi Group,

I am informed that the new versions of windows (XP) now work in 96dpi.
Can anyone tell me how to adjust my save for the web feature in Photoshop

7

to save at the 96dpi?

Thanks in advance to all those who take the time to reply.

Your info is wrong
DPI is for printing, a monitor couldn’t care less how many DPI your picture has
What is important is how many pixels wide and tall your images are. Try this: create 2 images 400 x 400 pixels, one at 72 and one at 300, save them with the same parameters and compare their sizes on your disk. Open both of them in a browser, see any difference?

Stephan

"SpaceGirl" wrote in message

"dfnNOSPAM" wrote in message

Hi Group,

I am informed that the new versions of windows (XP) now work in 96dpi.
Can anyone tell me how to adjust my save for the web feature in

Photoshop

7

to save at the 96dpi?

Thanks in advance to all those who take the time to reply.
David

Am I missing something here but…. what if I have say, my screen running

at

say 1024×768, or 1600×600…. or stretched across two screens for multidesktopping. Wont that kinda screw up any "dpi" measurement. 1" on a 800×600 screen works out around 72 dots… assuming a 15" display? Blah… this always confuses me anyway

There are not dots on your display, unless you touch it with dirty fingers. 800 x 600 pixels on a triple 21" display has the exact same size than 800 x 600 on a old 14 inch display.There is just much more room left around the 800 x 600 image on bigger monitors.

Stephan

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I am informed that the new versions of windows (XP) now work in 96dpi.

No, XP is no different than Windows 3.1 or older in that respect. Windows has always defaulted to 96 dpi for font size. The 96 dpi number is only used to size text fonts. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with showing images (it is always ignored for images – it doesnt matter what the dpi says). Images are only shown according to their size in pixels on the screen, like maybe a 400×300 pixel image on a 800×600 pixel screen. That number is how large the image will be shown (the 400×300 pixels). dpi is not a factor.

Can anyone tell me how to adjust my save for the web feature in Photoshop 7 to save at the 96dpi?

No, the Save For Web menu is going to scale to 72 dpi, period. However, there is no explainable purpose for 72 dpi images either, this is simply what Adobe does, for no explainable reason. It simply doesnt matter, because instead, the video screen is dimensioned in pixels, and the image is dimensioned in pixels, and that is all there is to it on the screen. There is no concept of dpi in video systems.

You can use menu File – Save As, and select JPG, and then can save the JPG file at whatever resolution it already is (instead of 72 dpi). The video screen still will never care, the screen only shows the pixels directly.

See http://www.scantips.com/no72dpi.html for a description of the full details of the (untrue) myth of 72 or 96 dpi for video.

The ONLY time scaling a screen image to the 72 dpi or 96 dpi ballpark may be significant is if you are going to use the Text Tool to add text into the image. This is the one time the image resolution dpi number will be used, to size that added text font in the image, and the text size may come out closer to expected size on the screen at 72 dpi, or 300 dpi when printed (i.e., a 12 point font will approximate 12 point size either way). But as for showing that resulting image on the screen, dpi simply is never a factor on the screen.

—
Wayne
http://www.scantips.com "A few scanning tips"

On 4-Jul-2003, "Stephan" wrote:

There are not dots on your display, unless you touch it with dirty fingers.
800 x 600 pixels on a triple 21" display has the exact same size than 800 x
600 on a old 14 inch display.There is just much more room left around the 800 x 600 image on bigger monitors.

This is wrong. Set your 21" monitor to 800×600 and see if it’s bigger than your 14" monitor.

The size of an image on the display (assuming no scaling) is dependent on the physical dimensions of the monitor (e.g. 21") and the logical dimensions of the screen (e.g. 1024×768). Make the logical dimensions bigger and a given size image gets smaller. Since most graphics cards/monitors/operating systems support multiple logical dimensions there is no way that an 800×600 image will be the exact same size on any two randomly selected monitors, except by chance.

—
Tom Thackrey
www.creative-light.com

"SpaceGirl" wrote in message

Well duh… sarcasm still doens’t work well in here 🙂

Sorry SpaceGirl, Duh it is for you and me but not for way too many people, some people spending $600 for PS don’t spend an hour learning the very basics of digital imaging.
Your sarcasm wasn’t very obvious, I hope I didn’t hurt your feelings 😉

Stephan

On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 03:35:06 GMT, "Tom Thackrey" wrote:

On 4-Jul-2003, "Stephan" wrote:

There are not dots on your display, unless you touch it with dirty fingers.
800 x 600 pixels on a triple 21" display has the exact same size than 800 x
600 on a old 14 inch display.There is just much more room left around the 800 x 600 image on bigger monitors.

This is wrong. Set your 21" monitor to 800×600 and see if it’s bigger than your 14" monitor.

No, you’re wrong because you’re not reading what he says. He doesn’t say "set your monitor resolution to 800×600". He says that an 800×600 image is the same size whether your display is a 14" set at 800×600 or a 21" set at 1600×1280.

—

Hecate
(Fried computers a specialty)

On 6-Jul-2003, Hecate wrote:

On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 03:35:06 GMT, "Tom Thackrey" wrote:

On 4-Jul-2003, "Stephan" wrote:

There are not dots on your display, unless you touch it with dirty fingers.
800 x 600 pixels on a triple 21" display has the exact same size than 800
x
600 on a old 14 inch display.There is just much more room left around the
800 x 600 image on bigger monitors.

This is wrong. Set your 21" monitor to 800×600 and see if it’s bigger than
your 14" monitor.

No, you’re wrong because you’re not reading what he says. He doesn’t say "set your monitor resolution to 800×600". He says that an 800×600 image is the same size whether your display is a 14" set at 800×600 or a 21" set at 1600×1280.

That’s not what he said. He said an 800×600 would be the exact same size on a 14" monitor as a triple 21" display. It might be true if the displays were set up as you describe, but there are many other choices in pixel dimensions for both size monitors which will make the 800×600 pixel image have different sizes on different displays (or even the same display at different pixel dimensions).

I thought I made that clear in the part of my post you neglected to copy in your reply.

—
Tom Thackrey
www.creative-light.com

"Tom Thackrey" wrote in message

On 4-Jul-2003, "Stephan" wrote:

There are not dots on your display, unless you touch it with dirty fingers.
800 x 600 pixels on a triple 21" display has the exact same size than

800

x
600 on a old 14 inch display.There is just much more room left around

the

800 x 600 image on bigger monitors.

This is wrong. Set your 21" monitor to 800×600 and see if it’s bigger than your 14" monitor.

OK but who would want to have a 21"set at 800×600??? Strange idea…

The size of an image on the display (assuming no scaling) is dependent on

the physical dimensions of the monitor (e.g. 21") and the logical

dimensions

of the screen (e.g. 1024×768). Make the logical dimensions bigger and a given size image gets smaller. Since most graphics

cards/monitors/operating

systems support multiple logical dimensions there is no way that an

800×600

image will be the exact same size on any two randomly selected monitors, except by chance.

OK again, You can always set your monitor to any logical dimension But I think 17" are usually set at about 800
19" at about 1024 and 21" at 1280. Am I right?

Stephan

On 6-Jul-2003, "Stephan" wrote:

OK again, You can always set your monitor to any logical dimension But I think 17" are usually set at about 800
19" at about 1024 and 21" at 1280. Am I right?

Define usually. The point was that an 800×600 pixel image will display at different sizes depending on the setup of the video card/display.

—
Tom Thackrey
www.creative-light.com

"Tom Thackrey" wrote in message

On 6-Jul-2003, "Stephan" wrote:

OK again, You can always set your monitor to any logical dimension But I think 17" are usually set at about 800
19" at about 1024 and 21" at 1280. Am I right?

Define usually. The point was that an 800×600 pixel image will display at different sizes depending on the setup of the video card/display.

Usually = Most of the time, in general, in a majority of cases. OK? Anyway, 800 pixels is 800 pixels no matter what.

Stephan