Help! Need to resize jpeg dimensions for screen & printer

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Hi you specialists, I have used PCs for years but am a newbie when it comes to resizing jpegs. I’d welcome some help in understanding how to compress and resize a jpeg so it can be sent by email to be viewed and printed easily by everyone.

My worry is that some email programs may open a jpeg automatically and I guess it’s possible that the software may not have the capability to shrink jpegs which have been created to display at a large size.

I suspect the result could be an extreme close up of some detail in the picture. With a limited email application I suspect it’s even possible the user may not be able to zoom out!

In this case the jpeg may get printed out to 8" x 10".

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This is my case: I started with a photo taken by a photographer on his digital camera. This is the data for that photo:

Size: 1960 x 3008 Pixels (5.90 MPixels)
Print Size: 69.1 x 106.1 cm; 27.2 x 41.8 inches
Original Colors: 16.7 Millions (24 BitsPerPixel)
File Size: 944.30 KB (966,959 Bytes)
Uncompressed Size 16.9 MB
Compression Ratio: 18.3

The print size looks huge. At 944 KB it is a little too big to send by email so I compressed it down to 299.7 KB by saving it in ACDsee and applying some compression.

The weird thing to me is that the Size (above) and Print Size have stayed the same although the Compression Ratio is now 57.6.

Is this jpeg still going to display on a screen and print on a printer as if it were 27 x 42 inches?

What do I need to do? I have access to both PhotoShop or Paint Shop Pro.

Susan

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Susan P
Jul 7, 2005
Hi you specialists, I have used PCs for years but am a newbie when it comes to resizing jpegs. I’d welcome some help in understanding how to compress and resize a jpeg so it can be sent by email to be viewed and printed easily by everyone.

My worry is that some email programs may open a jpeg automatically and I guess it’s possible that the software may not have the capability to shrink jpegs which have been created to display at a large size.

I suspect the result could be an extreme close up of some detail in the picture. With a limited email application I suspect it’s even possible the user may not be able to zoom out!

In this case the jpeg may get printed out to 8" x 10".

—-

This is my case: I started with a photo taken by a photographer on his digital camera. This is the data for that photo:

Size: 1960 x 3008 Pixels (5.90 MPixels)
Print Size: 69.1 x 106.1 cm; 27.2 x 41.8 inches
Original Colors: 16.7 Millions (24 BitsPerPixel)
File Size: 944.30 KB (966,959 Bytes)
Uncompressed Size 16.9 MB
Compression Ratio: 18.3

The print size looks huge. At 944 KB it is a little too big to send by email so I compressed it down to 299.7 KB by saving it in ACDsee and applying some compression.

The weird thing to me is that the Size (above) and Print Size have stayed the same although the Compression Ratio is now 57.6.

Is this jpeg still going to display on a screen and print on a printer as if it were 27 x 42 inches?

What do I need to do? I have access to both PhotoShop or Paint Shop Pro.

Sue
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davinci
Jul 7, 2005
Susan P wrote:

What do I need to do? I have access to both PhotoShop or Paint Shop Pro.

Susan

Jpeg compression is not a reference to overall size, but rather a quality setting. Keep the compression high, at least 90 or so. You don’t wanna send a grainy pic right.

Sounds like you have two tasks that use the same termonology "compression".

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You want your recipients to be able to view that huge pic you got? Don’t resize the pic. But do save it as a Jpeg, and keep the quality high, (by keeping the compression high) (this is a seperate task than zipping, or "compressing" a group of files, to be emailed).

and, also resize it too..this way, you have smaller copies of the same large picture. To resize the image, go Image>Resize>

In resize dialog, since youi know youi want an 8×10, use Inches and type in, 8×10 (inches) (this is top to fields).
(by default, a tick will be in the Lock Aspect Ratio to keep them the same)
meaning, your first number in the above mentioned field (8 inches wide) will take presedence, and the width will auto proportionally.

If you untick Lock Aspect Ratio and if you picture is disproportionate to an 8×10, it is going to be distorted by height or width, in the outcome.

To make the picture fit an 8×10 profile, just create a new file, and make this new file an 8×10, then do a copy/paste as new layer.

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To email a pic, it would be more generally accpted, to attatch the pic as a file, rather than insert it into the body.

If mailing a group of pics, highlight them all, and right click on one of them (as they are all highlighted), then go, compress and Mail, or Compress…etc..

Of course you may be using an external zipping utility, XP has one built in. Works just fine!

In the end, check and see just how much data is in this zip file, or single picture file. If mailing to dailup user, you may want to only send them 8×10 jpegs

Otherwise, with the data you gave in your post, you could wind up sending a huge zip file (most mail-servers get quirky arouind 5MB of data). Dialup users get discouraged after 15 mins, waiting to open an email.
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DBLEXPOSURE
Jul 7, 2005
"Susan P" wrote in message
Hi you specialists, I have used PCs for years but am a newbie when it comes to resizing jpegs. I’d welcome some help in understanding how to compress and resize a jpeg so it can be sent by email to be viewed and printed easily by everyone.

My worry is that some email programs may open a jpeg automatically and I guess it’s possible that the software may not have the capability to shrink jpegs which have been created to display at a large size.

I suspect the result could be an extreme close up of some detail in the picture. With a limited email application I suspect it’s even possible the user may not be able to zoom out!

In this case the jpeg may get printed out to 8" x 10".
—-

This is my case: I started with a photo taken by a photographer on his digital camera. This is the data for that photo:

Size: 1960 x 3008 Pixels (5.90 MPixels)
Print Size: 69.1 x 106.1 cm; 27.2 x 41.8 inches
Original Colors: 16.7 Millions (24 BitsPerPixel)
File Size: 944.30 KB (966,959 Bytes)
Uncompressed Size 16.9 MB
Compression Ratio: 18.3

The print size looks huge. At 944 KB it is a little too big to send by email so I compressed it down to 299.7 KB by saving it in ACDsee and applying some compression.

The weird thing to me is that the Size (above) and Print Size have stayed the same although the Compression Ratio is now 57.6.
Is this jpeg still going to display on a screen and print on a printer as if it were 27 x 42 inches?

What do I need to do? I have access to both PhotoShop or Paint Shop Pro.

Sue

Either one will do.

For emailing, re size the image to 800 or less pixels wide (this depends on how large you want it displayed on the screen) and save it as a .jpg

Print via the 1960 x 3008 original file. It will be a stretch to get a 24 X 42 inch print out of a 1960 X 3008 image. In photo shop set your document size to 80dpi to achieve 24 X 42 (or set the width to 24" and PS will do the rest) Try cahnging the Doc with resample on and off and see which print you like best..

Good luck
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Vince
Jul 7, 2005
Hi Sue. i use a program call irfan view is free and works for me. http://www.irfanview.com/

Vince

"Susan P" wrote in message
Hi you specialists, I have used PCs for years but am a newbie when it comes to resizing jpegs. I’d welcome some help in understanding how to compress and resize a jpeg so it can be sent by email to be viewed and printed easily by everyone.

My worry is that some email programs may open a jpeg automatically and I guess it’s possible that the software may not have the capability to shrink jpegs which have been created to display at a large size.

I suspect the result could be an extreme close up of some detail in the picture. With a limited email application I suspect it’s even possible the user may not be able to zoom out!

In this case the jpeg may get printed out to 8" x 10".

—-

This is my case: I started with a photo taken by a photographer on his digital camera. This is the data for that photo:

Size: 1960 x 3008 Pixels (5.90 MPixels)
Print Size: 69.1 x 106.1 cm; 27.2 x 41.8 inches
Original Colors: 16.7 Millions (24 BitsPerPixel)
File Size: 944.30 KB (966,959 Bytes)
Uncompressed Size 16.9 MB
Compression Ratio: 18.3

The print size looks huge. At 944 KB it is a little too big to send by email so I compressed it down to 299.7 KB by saving it in ACDsee and applying some compression.

The weird thing to me is that the Size (above) and Print Size have stayed the same although the Compression Ratio is now 57.6.

Is this jpeg still going to display on a screen and print on a printer as if it were 27 x 42 inches?

What do I need to do? I have access to both PhotoShop or Paint Shop Pro.

Sue
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Chuck
Jul 7, 2005
How an image is printed is determined by the program that spools it to the printer.

You can reduce an image to transmit easily by weighing how the image looks by increasing the compression of the jpeg.

If you want someone to print a "clean" "photograph quality" of an 8"x10" and
expect to send it via e-mail . . . it’s going to be large.

Simply choose to resize the image (IMAGE, RESIZE) – select the PRINT SIZE as inches and choose 8 x 11.5

For compression mess with the number between 10 and 20 when you save it – if the image is still too large then reduce the size further . . .

You might want to consider sharing a larger image online and sending people links to the images you put online.

If you don’t have a web site – take a look here:
http://familyinternet.about.com/od/sharingonline/tp/sharepho tos.htm


Chuck

"Susan P" wrote in message
Hi you specialists, I have used PCs for years but am a newbie when it comes to resizing jpegs. I’d welcome some help in understanding how to compress and resize a jpeg so it can be sent by email to be viewed and printed easily by everyone.

My worry is that some email programs may open a jpeg automatically and I guess it’s possible that the software may not have the capability to shrink jpegs which have been created to display at a large size.

I suspect the result could be an extreme close up of some detail in the picture. With a limited email application I suspect it’s even possible the user may not be able to zoom out!

In this case the jpeg may get printed out to 8" x 10".
—-

This is my case: I started with a photo taken by a photographer on his digital camera. This is the data for that photo:

Size: 1960 x 3008 Pixels (5.90 MPixels)
Print Size: 69.1 x 106.1 cm; 27.2 x 41.8 inches
Original Colors: 16.7 Millions (24 BitsPerPixel)
File Size: 944.30 KB (966,959 Bytes)
Uncompressed Size 16.9 MB
Compression Ratio: 18.3

The print size looks huge. At 944 KB it is a little too big to send by email so I compressed it down to 299.7 KB by saving it in ACDsee and applying some compression.

The weird thing to me is that the Size (above) and Print Size have stayed the same although the Compression Ratio is now 57.6.
Is this jpeg still going to display on a screen and print on a printer as if it were 27 x 42 inches?

What do I need to do? I have access to both PhotoShop or Paint Shop Pro.

Susan
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Hans-Georg Michna
Jul 7, 2005
On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 19:00:11 +0100, Susan P
wrote:

Hi you specialists, I have used PCs for years but am a newbie when it comes to resizing jpegs. I’d welcome some help in understanding how to compress and resize a jpeg so it can be sent by email to be viewed and printed easily by everyone

Sue,

right-click on the JPG file in Windows Explorer, then select Send to, Email recipient.

Hans-Georg


No mail, please.
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davinci
Jul 7, 2005
Susan P wrote:

My worry is that some email programs may open a jpeg automatically and I guess it’s possible that the software may not have the capability to shrink jpegs which have been created to display at a large size.

I misunderstood your post at first.

This is not the case. Whatever size you send, is how it is viewed. They won’t need a un-compression tool, they just view it. Pending on their default, jpeg viewer.

I suspect the result could be an extreme close up of some detail in the picture. With a limited email application I suspect it’s even possible the user may not be able to zoom out!

In this case the jpeg may get printed out to 8" x 10".

Whatever dimension you send is how big it will print.

unless you have resized pic to 8 x 10…it will print at the size you sent it. (regardless of how little or much they can see on the monitor)

The print size looks huge. At 944 KB it is a little too big to send by email so I compressed it down to 299.7 KB by saving it in ACDsee and applying some compression.

Why not resize the image to around 1280 x ???, and save as high quality JPEG, and still have package around 100KB

The weird thing to me is that the Size (above) and Print Size have stayed the same although the Compression Ratio is now 57.6.

Compression is a qualityi setting. Notice quality goes down with higher compression

Is this jpeg still going to display on a screen and print on a printer as if it were 27 x 42 inches?

Yes

Susan
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Fred Hiltz
Jul 7, 2005
Susan P wrote:
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I’d welcome some help in understanding how to compress and resize a jpeg so it can be sent by email to be viewed and printed easily by everyone.
[snip]

Hi Susan. I’d like to add a couple of items to DaVinci’s good suggestions. http://www.photo.net/learn/resize/ has a good explanation of the two image sizes–pixels on a monitor and inches on paper–and how to set their relation. The third size in question, the size of the JPG file, is best set with PSP’s JPEG Optimizer, which lets you watch the image quality and the file size while adjusting the amount of compression to trade off between the two.

Printing a good 8 x 10 requires a lot of pixels, far too many to load quickly in a web page or an email. People often send a small photo, perhaps 600 x 450 pixels, by email along with a link to where the big printable version, perhaps 2000 x 1500 pixels, can be found. —
Fred Hiltz, fhiltz at yahoo dot com
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stacey
Jul 7, 2005
Susan P wrote:

My worry is that some email programs may open a jpeg automatically and I guess it’s possible that the software may not have the capability to shrink jpegs which have been created to display at a large size.

You are correct.

I suspect the result could be an extreme close up of some detail in the picture. With a limited email application I suspect it’s even possible the user may not be able to zoom out!

In this case the jpeg may get printed out to 8" x 10".

Are you sure they are going to be printed? Might send a 800X600 downsampled and resharpened shot that doesn’t require as much compression and then ask them to request a larger version for printing if desired? Or if you have some web space you could put the larger file online for them to download if needed for printing. This way you could send the larger 944kb file on an as needed basis. What you are doing isn’t "lossless" compression.

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This is my case: I started with a photo taken by a photographer on his digital camera. This is the data for that photo:

Size: 1960 x 3008 Pixels (5.90 MPixels)
Print Size: 69.1 x 106.1 cm; 27.2 x 41.8 inches
Original Colors: 16.7 Millions (24 BitsPerPixel)
File Size: 944.30 KB (966,959 Bytes)
Uncompressed Size 16.9 MB
Compression Ratio: 18.3

Is this jpeg still going to display on a screen and print on a printer as if it were 27 x 42 inches?

It’s going to display on many systems at it’s native resolution which is 3008X1960. Most monitors are set at 1024X768 so it’s going to look huge
i.e. bigger than the monitor can display. Much of the cheap display
software does a crappy job of downsampling so even if it could display it full size, it will likely look awful.

What do I need to do? I have access to both PhotoShop or Paint Shop Pro.

I’d downsample it to 800X600 (best done in a couple of smaller steps in PS, use bicubic sharper if you have PSCS), resharpen to taste if needed, save as a high quality jpeg, send that and inform them that a larger version of the file is avalible if needed. You’ll waste less bandwidth for the people who aren’t interested in printing it and they’ll be able to see a nicer full size image without any hassles.

 >At 944 KB it is a little too big to send 
by email so I compressed it down to 299.7 KB by saving it in ACDsee and applying some compression.

Over compressing a file this much is going to show artifacts and the smaller downsampled file with less compression will look better. A file this compressed isn’t going to make a nice 8X10 anyway.



Stacey
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Marvin
Jul 7, 2005
Susan P wrote:
Hi you specialists, I have used PCs for years but am a newbie when it comes to resizing jpegs. I’d welcome some help in understanding how to compress and resize a jpeg so it can be sent by email to be viewed and printed easily by everyone.

My worry is that some email programs may open a jpeg automatically and I guess it’s possible that the software may not have the capability to shrink jpegs which have been created to display at a large size.

I suspect the result could be an extreme close up of some detail in the picture. With a limited email application I suspect it’s even possible the user may not be able to zoom out!

In this case the jpeg may get printed out to 8" x 10".
—-

This is my case: I started with a photo taken by a photographer on his digital camera. This is the data for that photo:

Size: 1960 x 3008 Pixels (5.90 MPixels)
Print Size: 69.1 x 106.1 cm; 27.2 x 41.8 inches
Original Colors: 16.7 Millions (24 BitsPerPixel)
File Size: 944.30 KB (966,959 Bytes)
Uncompressed Size 16.9 MB
Compression Ratio: 18.3

The print size looks huge. At 944 KB it is a little too big to send by email so I compressed it down to 299.7 KB by saving it in ACDsee and applying some compression.

The weird thing to me is that the Size (above) and Print Size have stayed the same although the Compression Ratio is now 57.6.
Is this jpeg still going to display on a screen and print on a printer as if it were 27 x 42 inches?

What do I need to do? I have access to both PhotoShop or Paint Shop Pro.

Sue
In Paint Shop Pro, with an image open click on Image/Resize. Set the resolution at 72 dpi – which is normal for most diplays. Then click the box next to "Lock Aspect Ratio:, and set the width of the picture to what you want t to be on the screen. Click on OK, and you’re done. Save the image in a new location or woith a dew name, as a .jpg file. Look for the Options box, where you can set the compression. While thee file is still opne, you can click on File/Send to generate an e-mail with the picture.
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KatWoman
Jul 7, 2005
"Susan P" wrote in message
Hi you specialists, I have used PCs for years but am a newbie when it comes to resizing jpegs. I’d welcome some help in understanding how to compress and resize a jpeg so it can be sent by email to be viewed and printed easily by everyone.

My worry is that some email programs may open a jpeg automatically and I guess it’s possible that the software may not have the capability to shrink jpegs which have been created to display at a large size.

I suspect the result could be an extreme close up of some detail in the picture. With a limited email application I suspect it’s even possible the user may not be able to zoom out!

In this case the jpeg may get printed out to 8" x 10".
—-

This is my case: I started with a photo taken by a photographer on his digital camera. This is the data for that photo:

Size: 1960 x 3008 Pixels (5.90 MPixels)
Print Size: 69.1 x 106.1 cm; 27.2 x 41.8 inches
Original Colors: 16.7 Millions (24 BitsPerPixel)
File Size: 944.30 KB (966,959 Bytes)
Uncompressed Size 16.9 MB
Compression Ratio: 18.3

The print size looks huge. At 944 KB it is a little too big to send by email so I compressed it down to 299.7 KB by saving it in ACDsee and applying some compression.

The weird thing to me is that the Size (above) and Print Size have stayed the same although the Compression Ratio is now 57.6.
Is this jpeg still going to display on a screen and print on a printer as if it were 27 x 42 inches?

What do I need to do? I have access to both PhotoShop or Paint Shop Pro.

Sue

for printing save the original

for emailing: If you have windows XP you just do as suggested, right click the picture or list of pics, send to>email recipient> it will ask you if you want to resize them, let it, an email form comes up with the attachments resized nicely.

for internet/website use: If you are using Photoshop? Use SAVE FOR WEB, it will show you exactly what it will look like and fix the resolution to 72. For photos use JPEG HIGH.
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Don Stauffer
Jul 8, 2005
Indeed display software and printing software are different beasts. The file itself may have no control over how these software packages display or print the image. I think it is unlikely that you can format the image file in such a way as to control whatever software a recipient might have.

In fact, printing typically takes a LOT of user control to specify the parameters for a good print.

To complicate it even further, an email client program may well likely display an image on a screen differently than a web browser would.

Susan P wrote:
Hi you specialists, I have used PCs for years but am a newbie when it comes to resizing jpegs. I’d welcome some help in understanding how to compress and resize a jpeg so it can be sent by email to be viewed and printed easily by everyone.

My worry is that some email programs may open a jpeg automatically and I guess it’s possible that the software may not have the capability to shrink jpegs which have been created to display at a large size.

I suspect the result could be an extreme close up of some detail in the picture. With a limited email application I suspect it’s even possible the user may not be able to zoom out!

In this case the jpeg may get printed out to 8" x 10".
—-

This is my case: I started with a photo taken by a photographer on his digital camera. This is the data for that photo:

Size: 1960 x 3008 Pixels (5.90 MPixels)
Print Size: 69.1 x 106.1 cm; 27.2 x 41.8 inches
Original Colors: 16.7 Millions (24 BitsPerPixel)
File Size: 944.30 KB (966,959 Bytes)
Uncompressed Size 16.9 MB
Compression Ratio: 18.3

The print size looks huge. At 944 KB it is a little too big to send by email so I compressed it down to 299.7 KB by saving it in ACDsee and applying some compression.

The weird thing to me is that the Size (above) and Print Size have stayed the same although the Compression Ratio is now 57.6.
Is this jpeg still going to display on a screen and print on a printer as if it were 27 x 42 inches?

What do I need to do? I have access to both PhotoShop or Paint Shop Pro.

Sue
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Tacit
Jul 8, 2005
In article ,
Susan P wrote:

Is this jpeg still going to display on a screen and print on a printer as if it were 27 x 42 inches?

Yes.

You need to learn about resolution, pixel count, and display.

Let’s say you have an image that is 1,024 pixels wide and 768 pixels high. If your computer monitor is set to 1024×768, it will exactly fill the entire monitor.

How big will it print out?

You have no idea. None at all. Why? Because you do not know what the resolution is.

When people talk about "resolution" in terms of "pixels per inch" (or, incorrectly, "dpi"), what are they talking about? They are talking about HOW BIG EACH PIXEL IS. If a picture is 300 pixels per inch, that means each pixel is a little square that is 1/300 of an inch across. If a picture is 72 pixels per inch, each pixel is 1/72 of an inch across.

When you display a picture on your computer screen, the resolution of the picture does not make any difference. Only the total number of pixels on your computer screen and the total number of pixels in the image matters. If your computer screen is 1024×768 and your picture is 2048×1536 pixels, only one-quarter of the picture will fit on the computer screen. But how big will it be when it prints out? THAT depends on the resolution. If it is 300 pixels per inch, it will print out 6.8 inches wide. If it is 100 pixels per inch, it will print out 20 inches wide. If it is 72 pixels per inch, it will print out 28 inches wide.

There are two things you need to take away from this:

1. The size of an image on a computer screen has nothing to do with the size of the image when it prints. The size on the computer screen depends on the total number of pixels. The size when it prints depends on the total number of pixels AND the image resolution.

2. A picture that is big enough to print at high resolution at 8×10 is far, far, far, far too many pixels to fit on a computer screen. If you want the image to fit all on one computer screen, it will be too few pixels to print at 8×10 without looking like crap. If oyu want it to print at 8×10 and look good, it will not fit on a computer screen.


Art, photography, shareware, polyamory, literature, kink: all at http://www.xeromag.com/franklin.html
BT
Bill Tuthill
Jul 8, 2005
In rec.photo.digital Marvin wrote:
Size: 1960 x 3008 Pixels (5.90 MPixels)
Print Size: 69.1 x 106.1 cm; 27.2 x 41.8 inches
Original Colors: 16.7 Millions (24 BitsPerPixel)
File Size: 944.30 KB (966,959 Bytes)
Uncompressed Size 16.9 MB
Compression Ratio: 18.3

What do I need to do? I have access to PhotoShop and Paint Shop Pro.
In Paint Shop Pro, with an image open click on Image/Resize…

This is the best advice you’ve received. Or use Photoshop resample.

DO NOT RECOMPRESS the 1960×3008 image. It will lower quality. Archive the original, and do not edit it again.

For e-mailing, in the Resize or Resample window, type in 25%. JPEG images are best when downsampled 50% or 25%, so that the 8×8 block DCT boundaries are not disturbed. Click OK or Apply, then save the image in a new file.

You will have a 490×750 image, which is perfect for e-mailing.
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KatWoman
Jul 8, 2005
"tacit" wrote in message
In article ,
Susan P wrote:

Is this jpeg still going to display on a screen and print on a printer as if it were 27 x 42 inches?

Yes.

You need to learn about resolution, pixel count, and display.
Let’s say you have an image that is 1,024 pixels wide and 768 pixels high. If your computer monitor is set to 1024×768, it will exactly fill the entire monitor.

How big will it print out?

You have no idea. None at all. Why? Because you do not know what the resolution is.

When people talk about "resolution" in terms of "pixels per inch" (or, incorrectly, "dpi"), what are they talking about? They are talking about HOW BIG EACH PIXEL IS. If a picture is 300 pixels per inch, that means each pixel is a little square that is 1/300 of an inch across. If a picture is 72 pixels per inch, each pixel is 1/72 of an inch across.
When you display a picture on your computer screen, the resolution of the picture does not make any difference. Only the total number of pixels on your computer screen and the total number of pixels in the image matters. If your computer screen is 1024×768 and your picture is 2048×1536 pixels, only one-quarter of the picture will fit on the computer screen. But how big will it be when it prints out? THAT depends on the resolution. If it is 300 pixels per inch, it will print out 6.8 inches wide. If it is 100 pixels per inch, it will print out 20 inches wide. If it is 72 pixels per inch, it will print out 28 inches wide.
There are two things you need to take away from this:

1. The size of an image on a computer screen has nothing to do with the size of the image when it prints. The size on the computer screen depends on the total number of pixels. The size when it prints depends on the total number of pixels AND the image resolution.

2. A picture that is big enough to print at high resolution at 8×10 is far, far, far, far too many pixels to fit on a computer screen. If you want the image to fit all on one computer screen, it will be too few pixels to print at 8×10 without looking like crap. If oyu want it to print at 8×10 and look good, it will not fit on a computer screen.

not to mention that Windows picture and Fax viewer, browsers and email often resize the images automatically for viewing to fit in the screen, and you will not see the actual size in the display. (look at properties to see actual dimensions)

for printing 8×10, I would send a 300 dpi, 8×10, for viewing an 8×10 on screen I would use image size 8×10 at 72 dpi.
Why not put the print files on a CD and send them?

Art, photography, shareware, polyamory, literature, kink: all at http://www.xeromag.com/franklin.html
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JoeB
Jul 8, 2005
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In article ,
Susan P wrote:

Is this jpeg still going to display on a screen and print on a printer as if it were 27 x 42 inches?

Yes.

You need to learn about resolution, pixel count, and display.
Let’s say you have an image that is 1,024 pixels wide and 768
pixels
high. If your computer monitor is set to 1024×768, it will
exactly
fill the entire monitor.

How big will it print out?

You have no idea. None at all. Why? Because you do not know
what the
resolution is.

When people talk about "resolution" in terms of "pixels per
inch"
(or, incorrectly, "dpi"), what are they talking about? They are talking about HOW BIG EACH PIXEL IS. If a picture is 300 pixels
per
inch, that means each pixel is a little square that is 1/300 of
an
inch across. If a picture is 72 pixels per inch, each pixel is
1/72
of an inch across.

When you display a picture on your computer screen, the
resolution of
the picture does not make any difference. Only the total number
of
pixels on your computer screen and the total number of pixels
in the
image matters. If your computer screen is 1024×768 and your
picture
is 2048×1536 pixels, only one-quarter of the picture will fit
on the
computer screen. But how big will it be when it prints out?
THAT
depends on the resolution. If it is 300 pixels per inch, it
will
print out 6.8 inches wide. If it is 100 pixels per inch, it
will
print out 20 inches wide. If it is 72 pixels per inch, it will
print
out 28 inches wide.

There are two things you need to take away from this:

1. The size of an image on a computer screen has nothing to do
with
the size of the image when it prints. The size on the computer
screen
depends on the total number of pixels. The size when it prints depends on the total number of pixels AND the image resolution.
2. A picture that is big enough to print at high resolution at
8×10
is far, far, far, far too many pixels to fit on a computer
screen. If
you want the image to fit all on one computer screen, it will
be too
few pixels to print at 8×10 without looking like crap. If oyu
want it
to print at 8×10 and look good, it will not fit on a computer
screen.
not to mention that Windows picture and Fax viewer, browsers and
email
often resize the images automatically for viewing to fit in the screen, and you will not see the actual size in the display.
(look at
properties to see actual dimensions)

for printing 8×10, I would send a 300 dpi, 8×10, for viewing an
8×10
on screen I would use image size 8×10 at 72 dpi.
Why not put the print files on a CD and send them?

Actually, for viewing an 8×10 you’ll likely find that 200 ppi works well. As for screen viewing, the ppi doesn’t matter, only the number of pixels in the picture. PPI is only an instruction sent to the printer to lay down so many pixels of image to each inch of printed paper. On the screen, the screen will display as many pixels as there are in the image. The size of the image on the screen will depend only on your monitor resolution setting (800×600, 1024×768, etc).

Regards,

JoeB
S
Sportman
Jul 8, 2005
Susan P wrote:
What do I need to do? I have access to both PhotoShop or Paint Shop Pro.
Without Photoshop or Paint Shop Pro it’s possible with:

Windows Paint:
Start/Paint or Start/All Programs/Accessories/Paint
File/Open/Select xxx.jpg picture/Open
Image/Stretch and Skew/Stretch Horizontal 50%, Vertical 50%/Ok File/Save as/xxx.jpg

To print File/Print

Handy for quick resize (no print option) is the program "A Smaller Image":
http://www.trivista.com/products/asmallerimage/

"A Smaller Image" trail version 3.1 make a red "X" on all images, but older version 1.0 is working without this problem in free trail mode: ftp://sac-ftp.gratex.sk/graph/asimg10.zip

A nice free Windows Paint replacement is Paint.NET
http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/paint.net/
KM
Kennedy McEwen
Jul 10, 2005
In article , Susan P
writes
Hi you specialists, I have used PCs for years but am a newbie when it comes to resizing jpegs. I’d welcome some help in understanding how to compress and resize a jpeg so it can be sent by email to be viewed and printed easily by everyone.
There really isn’t an optimum solution that will do both tasks well with the same file. Prints have a much higher resolution than screen displays. A typical screen is only about 72-120ppi, whilst a reasonable print is at least 300ppi – almost 10 times as many pixels for the same image size. If you compress the image in a jpeg small enough to email conveniently then it is likely to show a lot of artefacts when printed.

My worry is that some email programs may open a jpeg automatically and I guess it’s possible that the software may not have the capability to shrink jpegs which have been created to display at a large size.

I suspect the result could be an extreme close up of some detail in the picture. With a limited email application I suspect it’s even possible the user may not be able to zoom out!
That is certainly possible – a consequence of the 10x as many pixels that a decent print requires.

This is my case: I started with a photo taken by a photographer on his digital camera. This is the data for that photo:

Size: 1960 x 3008 Pixels (5.90 MPixels)
Print Size: 69.1 x 106.1 cm; 27.2 x 41.8 inches
Original Colors: 16.7 Millions (24 BitsPerPixel)
File Size: 944.30 KB (966,959 Bytes)
Uncompressed Size 16.9 MB
Compression Ratio: 18.3

The print size looks huge. At 944 KB it is a little too big to send by email so I compressed it down to 299.7 KB by saving it in ACDsee and applying some compression.

The weird thing to me is that the Size (above) and Print Size have stayed the same although the Compression Ratio is now 57.6.

That is because you are not resizing the image – just compressing it more. Jpeg compression trades image quality for file size, the image size remains exactly the same.
Is this jpeg still going to display on a screen and print on a printer as if it were 27 x 42 inches?

The default size on screen is always determined by the number of pixels in the image and the pixel resolution that the end user has their display driver set for. So, if they have a 17" display with 1024x 768 pixels then the unzoomed image above will be about the size given and so it will overfill their display so they only see the small fraction of the image – just as you were concerned about.

Similarly, the print size depends on the number of pixels and the print resolution that they use. In this case, however, many applications (including PS) set the default print resolution and size based on the information they find for those parameters in the file. Consequently it will often print at just the size you specify in the image.

Now, looking at your data above, 1960×3008 pixels produces an image of 27.2×41.5 inches. That corresponds to exactly 72ppi, which is the default for a fairly coarse display. This will look very poor if the print application uses the default size. Before printing you should redefine the resolution (without resizing) to around 300ppi, which will result in an image that is about 6.5×10".

It usually isn’t a good idea to keep saving jpeg images, because the compression artefacts mount up at each save process – even if you keep the compression rate the same. Hence I do not recommend changing this image resolution and saving new file – just change the resolution before printing. I am guessing that these images are originating in a digital camera. There might be an option in the camera software that sets the default resolution that it saves the images at. If there is, change that to 300ppi (or 300dpi if it uses bad nomenclature!). If you have an Epson printer (never mind what anyone else has – it is your print!) then set the default resolution to either 240ppi or 360ppi, since these are matched to the optimum for the Epson range.

The best solution for convenient email and printing, as one or two others have advised, is to create two different files – one optimised for small size at a display compatible pixel count and the other optimised for printing. Using PS or PSP resize your original images to about 800×600 pixels (or 800×521 pixels in this case) with 72ppi and then save that at medium to high compression for email. You should get a file size of around 50kb or less, which will download very quickly.

If anyone wants to print this then, of course, they can but the results won’t be as good as if you send them the original image as a tiff file or a jpeg with minimum compression.

Kennedy
Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he’s pissed.
Python Philosophers (replace ‘nospam’ with ‘kennedym’ when replying)
JM
John McWilliams
Jul 10, 2005
Kennedy McEwen wrote:
In article , Susan P
writes

The default size on screen is always determined by the number of pixels in the image and the pixel resolution that the end user has their display driver set for. So, if they have a 17" display with 1024x 768 pixels then the unzoomed image above will be about the size given and so it will overfill their display so they only see the small fraction of the image – just as you were concerned about.
True if you specify when viewed in most browsers.
The best solution for convenient email and printing, as one or two others have advised, is to create two different files – one optimised for small size at a display compatible pixel count and the other optimised for printing. Using PS or PSP resize your original images to about 800×600 pixels (or 800×521 pixels in this case) with 72ppi and then save that at medium to high compression for email. You should get a file size of around 50kb or less, which will download very quickly.
If anyone wants to print this then, of course, they can but the results won’t be as good as if you send them the original image as a tiff file or a jpeg with minimum compression.

Another way to handle it is to put up a website, using about the same parameter.


John McWilliams
KM
Kennedy McEwen
Jul 11, 2005
In article , John McWilliams
writes
Kennedy McEwen wrote:
In article , Susan P
writes
The default size on screen is always determined by the number of pixels in the image and the pixel resolution that the end user has their display driver set for. So, if they have a 17" display with 1024x 768 pixels then the unzoomed image above will be about the size given and so it will overfill their display so they only see the small fraction of the image – just as you were concerned about.
True if you specify when viewed in most browsers.

And almost all email readers, which is what the OP was concerned about.


Kennedy
Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he’s pissed.
Python Philosophers (replace ‘nospam’ with ‘kennedym’ when replying)
SP
Susan P
Jul 15, 2005
Susan P wrote:

— snip —

What do I need to do? I have access to both PhotoShop or Paint Shop Pro.

Susan

On Thu 07 Jul 2005 19:41:16, davinci wrote:
<news:>
Jpeg compression is not a reference to overall size, but rather a quality setting. Keep the compression high, at least 90 or so. You don’t wanna send a grainy pic right.

DaVinci, I think I did not write very clearly. Please let me explain what I meant to convey.

Assuming you have read my origial posting in this thread then the jpeg I have started with is too large for me to send by email. A dialup user might curse me for ever! So When I say "compress" or "make smaller" then I mean apply further jpeg compression to the original high-quality 944KB jpeg file in order to make the actual file smaller.

In my case I judged that 300 KB was as large as I dare make the file for emailing.

Of course I will lose quality when I apply jpeg compression to an existing jpeg. But I have to accept that a dialup user may terminate the download of my email-with-jpeg if it is taking longer to receive than they want to spend on it.

So that is ok, so far.

Quite separately is my finding that the "natural size" of the jpeg (if there is actually such a thing) which I imagine is importnant when it is viewed or printed seems to me AS A NOVICE to remain very big. It is about 27 by 41 inches! (See my original posting.)

My jpeg viewing software (ACDSee) has an option to shrink any pictures to fit the viewing window so that sort of thing never bother me. On the other hand I am concerned that some email software may not have that ability and automatically show the jpeg attachment at its normal size. Which means that only a small portion of the 27" by 41" image can be seen on their screen!

So this is why I ask what do I need to do?

As I said, I have access to both PhotoShop or Paint Shop Pro. I also have some freeware resizng utilities like Irfanview, Format11, Faststone Photo Resizer, JPEG Resizer, Pic2Pic, etc.

The trouble is that I don’t know which tool to use nor what settings might get the final jpeg down to a size which can be printed on 8×10 or seen on a screen.

Sounds like you have two tasks that use the same termonology "compression".

—-

You want your recipients to be able to view that huge pic you got? Don’t resize the pic. But do save it as a Jpeg, and keep the quality high, (by keeping the compression high) (this is a seperate task than zipping, or "compressing" a group of files, to be emailed).

and, also resize it too..this way, you have smaller copies of the same large picture. To resize the image, go Image>Resize>
In resize dialog, since youi know youi want an 8×10, use Inches and type in, 8×10 (inches) (this is top to fields).
(by default, a tick will be in the Lock Aspect Ratio to keep them the same)
meaning, your first number in the above mentioned field (8 inches wide) will take presedence, and the width will auto proportionally.

If you untick Lock Aspect Ratio and if you picture is
disproportionate to an 8×10, it is going to be distorted by height or width, in the outcome.

To make the picture fit an 8×10 profile, just create a new file, and make this new file an 8×10, then do a copy/paste as new layer.

—-

To email a pic, it would be more generally accpted, to attatch the pic as a file, rather than insert it into the body.

If mailing a group of pics, highlight them all, and right click on one of them (as they are all highlighted), then go, compress and Mail, or Compress…etc..

Of course you may be using an external zipping utility, XP has one built in. Works just fine!

In the end, check and see just how much data is in this zip file, or single picture file. If mailing to dailup user, you may want to only send them 8×10 jpegs

Otherwise, with the data you gave in your post, you could wind up sending a huge zip file (most mail-servers get quirky arouind 5MB of data). Dialup users get discouraged after 15 mins, waiting to open an email.
J
JoeB
Jul 15, 2005
The problem you’re having is that you do not understand the difference between the size the image looks on the monitor and the print size of your image. Did you read the information at the site Fred provided ( http://www.photo.net/learn/resize/ )? Perhaps an even easier to understand article is at this site:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1790570,00.asp

This is the information you gave about your image:

Size: 1960 x 3008 Pixels (5.90 MPixels)
Print Size: 69.1 x 106.1 cm; 27.2 x 41.8 inches
Original Colors: 16.7 Millions (24 BitsPerPixel)
File Size: 944.30 KB (966,959 Bytes)
Uncompressed Size 16.9 MB
Compression Ratio: 18.3

You don’t say whether the 1960 is width or height, so I’m going to assume width for this explanation.

The reason the print size comes out as 27.2 x 41.8 inches is because the print resolution is set at 72, which you can see if you open the image in PSP then go to Image>Resize and look at the dialogue. This resolution is information PSP sends to your printer, telling it to print 72 pixels of your image on each inch of printed paper. If you divide 1960 by 72 you’ll get 27.2 inches, and 3008 divided by 72 gives you 41.8 inches.

If 1960 is the width, and if you uncheck the "Resample Using" box, and if you type 8 into the width box under Print Size in the dialogue, you’ll see the resolution changes to 245, because the printer will have to lay down 245 pixels on each inch of printed paper to fit the whole into an 8 inch width. This has *nothing* to do with how the image looks on your screen, and you’ll notice that the Pixel Dimension boxes are greyed out. You’ll also notice that the image will print a little over 12 inches high, so if you want to print 10 inches high you’ll have to crop some of the top and/or bottom.

For printing purposes, you should have a print resolution of at least 200 for 4×6 photo prints, and perhaps even for 8×10.

If, as your post suggests, you have used a compression level of

Your monitor doesn’t care what the print resolution is, and doesn’t care how many inches it prints. It only cares how many pixels the image has horizontally and vertically, because it displays pixels. If you have your monitor resolution set to 1024x 768, then your monitor displaying an image full screen can only display 1028 pixels across and 768 high so, without resizing, you’ll only be able to see 1028ixels of your image width, and the other 932 pixels will be hidden unless you scroll to reveal them. If you want to have your image sized so that it will appear comfortably sized on an average monitor, then you likely should make sure the width is something like 800 pixels wide if landscape format, or no more than 600 high if portrait, or else many people will have to scroll to see it all.

If you now check the Resample Using box and make sure that "Smart Size" is selected in the dropdown box, the pixel dimensions will become available in the dialogue. Again assuming 1960 is width and 3008 the height, type 600 in the Height box (making sure that the units shown is "Pixels", not "Percent"), and you’ll see that the width in pixels changes propotionally. When you click OK PSP will remove pixels to give the image only as many pixels as you’ve requested. But you’ll see that the print size has changed dramatically because, at a resolution of 245, there are only enough pixels to print a 1.5 x 2.5 image.

So to achieve your goal you need 2 images – one with enough pixels to provide a good quality print (which will be too large to be viewed without scrolling on most monitors) and one resized for monitor viewing. That is why others have suggested providing a small image for viewing and a larger one for printing.

When compressing the high quality image for file size, if you are using a compression factor of more than 30 the chances are your image will show jpg artifacts which will show up in the printing process. You should view the image in the jpg optimizer and choose a compression value that gives the lowest file size without showing unacceptable degradation to the image.

If I have not explained things well, please read the articles at the links provided above.

Regards,

JoeB

Susan P wrote in news:96948FDA49AC472A58@
204.153.244.156:

Susan P wrote:

— snip —

What do I need to do? I have access to both PhotoShop or
Paint
Shop Pro.

Susan

On Thu 07 Jul 2005 19:41:16, davinci wrote:
<news:>
Jpeg compression is not a reference to overall size, but rather a quality setting. Keep the compression high, at least 90 or
so.
You don’t wanna send a grainy pic right.

DaVinci, I think I did not write very clearly. Please let me explain what I meant to convey.

Assuming you have read my origial posting in this thread then
the
jpeg I have started with is too large for me to send by email.
A
dialup user might curse me for ever! So When I say "compress"
or
"make smaller" then I mean apply further jpeg compression to the original high-quality 944KB jpeg file in order to make the
actual
file smaller.

In my case I judged that 300 KB was as large as I dare make the file for emailing.

Of course I will lose quality when I apply jpeg compression to
an
existing jpeg. But I have to accept that a dialup user may terminate the download of my email-with-jpeg if it is taking longer to receive than they want to spend on it.

So that is ok, so far.

Quite separately is my finding that the "natural size" of the
jpeg
(if there is actually such a thing) which I imagine is
importnant
when it is viewed or printed seems to me AS A NOVICE to remain very big. It is about 27 by 41 inches! (See my original posting.)

My jpeg viewing software (ACDSee) has an option to shrink any pictures to fit the viewing window so that sort of thing never bother me. On the other hand I am concerned that some email software may not have that ability and automatically show the
jpeg
attachment at its normal size. Which means that only a small portion of the 27" by 41" image can be seen on their screen!
So this is why I ask what do I need to do?

As I said, I have access to both PhotoShop or Paint Shop Pro. I also have some freeware resizng utilities like Irfanview, Format11, Faststone Photo Resizer, JPEG Resizer, Pic2Pic, etc.
The trouble is that I don’t know which tool to use nor what settings might get the final jpeg down to a size which can be printed on 8×10 or seen on a screen.

Sounds like you have two tasks that use the same termonology "compression".

—-

You want your recipients to be able to view that huge pic you got? Don’t resize the pic. But do save it as a Jpeg, and keep the quality high, (by keeping the compression high) (this is a seperate task than zipping, or "compressing" a group of files, to be emailed).

and, also resize it too..this way, you have smaller copies of the same large picture. To resize the image, go Image>Resize>
In resize dialog, since youi know youi want an 8×10, use Inches and type in, 8×10 (inches) (this is top to fields).
(by default, a tick will be in the Lock Aspect Ratio to keep them the same)
meaning, your first number in the above mentioned field (8 inches wide) will take presedence, and the width will auto proportionally.

If you untick Lock Aspect Ratio and if you picture is
disproportionate to an 8×10, it is going to be distorted by height or width, in the outcome.

To make the picture fit an 8×10 profile, just create a new
file,
and make this new file an 8×10, then do a copy/paste as new layer.

—-

To email a pic, it would be more generally accpted, to attatch the pic as a file, rather than insert it into the body.

If mailing a group of pics, highlight them all, and right click on one of them (as they are all highlighted), then go, compress and Mail, or Compress…etc..

Of course you may be using an external zipping utility, XP has one built in. Works just fine!

In the end, check and see just how much data is in this zip file, or single picture file. If mailing to dailup user, you
may
want to only send them 8×10 jpegs

Otherwise, with the data you gave in your post, you could wind up sending a huge zip file (most mail-servers get quirky arouind 5MB of data). Dialup users get discouraged after 15 mins, waiting to open an email.
C
Canopus
Jul 15, 2005
Susan P on 15/07/2005 wrote:

Quite separately is my finding that the "natural size" of the jpeg (if there is actually such a thing) which I imagine is importnant when it is viewed or printed seems to me AS A NOVICE to remain very big. It is about 27 by 41 inches! (See my original posting.)

My jpeg viewing software (ACDSee) has an option to shrink any pictures to fit the viewing window so that sort of thing never bother me. On the other hand I am concerned that some email software may not have that ability and automatically show the jpeg attachment at its normal size. Which means that only a small portion of the 27" by 41" image can be seen on their screen!
So this is why I ask what do I need to do?

I didn’t see your original post, but, I understand the problem you have sending an image by mail. You want to now send the image so that it displays in the receivers mail without them having to scroll. You have to realize that how you see it in the mail may not be the way the recipient sees it as you may both be running at different screen resolutions. However, lets assume you are both running at the same screen resolution. Instead of sending it as a straight forward attachment, place the cursor where you want the picture inserted and go Insert > Image, then browse to the image and click OK and the image will be inserted into the mail. Now you will probably find that it is displayed too big so left click on the image, scroll down to the bottom right corner and you will see a little square, place you cursor over the square and while holding down the left mouse button drag the image to the size you require. When it is at a comfortable size you may have to adjust it by eye to the ratio it was previously at, probably 4:3, but, whatever looks good. If your friend wants to save the picture she can right click on it and choose Save As and the picture will be saved in its original size and ratio. It’s probably easier than re-sizing it in an image editor and risking introducing further artifact.

Rob
T
Trev
Jul 16, 2005
"Canopus" wrote in message
Susan P on 15/07/2005 wrote:

Quite separately is my finding that the "natural size" of the jpeg (if there is actually such a thing) which I imagine is importnant when it is viewed or printed seems to me AS A NOVICE to remain very big. It is about 27 by 41 inches! (See my original posting.)

My jpeg viewing software (ACDSee) has an option to shrink any pictures to fit the viewing window so that sort of thing never bother me. On the other hand I am concerned that some email software may not have that ability and automatically show the jpeg attachment at its normal size. Which means that only a small portion of the 27" by 41" image can be seen on their screen!
So this is why I ask what do I need to do?

I didn’t see your original post, but, I understand the problem you have sending an image by mail. You want to now send the image so that it displays in the receivers mail without them having to scroll. You have to realize that how you see it in the mail may not be the way the recipient sees it as you may both be running at different screen resolutions. However, lets assume you are both running at the same screen resolution. Instead of sending it as a straight forward attachment, place the cursor where you want the picture inserted and go Insert > Image, then browse to the image and click OK and the image will be inserted into the mail. Now you will probably find that it is displayed too big so left click on the image, scroll down to the bottom right corner and you will see a little square, place you cursor over the square and while holding down the left mouse button drag the image to the size you require. When it is at a comfortable size you may have to adjust it by eye to the ratio it was previously at, probably 4:3, but, whatever looks good. If your friend wants to save the picture she can right click on it and choose Save As and the picture will be saved in its original size and ratio. It’s probably easier than re-sizing it in an image editor and risking introducing further artifact.
Rob

If I remember correctly this alters how the image is viewed but Leaves the image with the full Fill size.
This discussion came about though a misunderstanding of Jpeg Compression, File size V image size
C
Canopus
Jul 16, 2005
Trev on 16/07/2005 wrote:

If I remember correctly this alters how the image is viewed but Leaves the image with the full Fill size. This discussion came about though a misunderstanding of Jpeg Compression, File size V image size

That is correct. This is the second part to Susan’s question, the viewing of an image in an email.
T
Tacit
Jul 19, 2005
In article ,
"Canopus" wrote:

However, lets assume you are both running at the same
screen resolution. Instead of sending it as a straight forward attachment, place the cursor where you want the picture inserted and go Insert > Image, then browse to the image and click OK and the image will be inserted into the mail. Now you will probably find that it is displayed too big so left click on the image, scroll down to the bottom right corner and you will see a little square, place you cursor over the square and while holding down the left mouse button drag the image to the size you require.

This will only work if the person RECEIVING the email is using Outlook.

If the person who receives the email is not using Outlook, it is up to the mail program to decide how to display the image. Some will display it inline at full size. Some will show it as an attachment.


Art, photography, shareware, polyamory, literature, kink: all at http://www.xeromag.com/franklin.html
T
Tacit
Jul 19, 2005
In article ,
Susan P wrote:

Quite separately is my finding that the "natural size" of the jpeg (if there is actually such a thing) which I imagine is importnant when it is viewed or printed seems to me AS A NOVICE to remain very big. It is about 27 by 41 inches! (See my original posting.)

My jpeg viewing software (ACDSee) has an option to shrink any pictures to fit the viewing window so that sort of thing never bother me. On the other hand I am concerned that some email software may not have that ability and automatically show the jpeg attachment at its normal size. Which means that only a small portion of the 27" by 41" image can be seen on their screen!
So this is why I ask what do I need to do?

What you need to do: Change the number of pixels in the image. In Photoshop, you use the Image Size command and turn on the "Resample Image" checkbox. Reduce the number of pixels. This will reduce the size it displays on a computer screen. it will also reduce the sizre of the file on disk. However, the picture will no longer be suitable for printing out on a printer at high resolution.

You can make it appropriate for printing, or make it so that it displays correctly on a computer screen–pick one. You don’t get both.


Art, photography, shareware, polyamory, literature, kink: all at http://www.xeromag.com/franklin.html
C
Canopus
Jul 19, 2005
tacit on 19/07/2005 wrote:

This will only work if the person RECEIVING the email is using Outlook.

And Outlook Express, and a few others as you said.
U
Uni
Jul 20, 2005
tacit wrote:

In article ,
"Canopus" wrote:

However, lets assume you are both running at the same
screen resolution. Instead of sending it as a straight forward attachment, place the cursor where you want the picture inserted and go Insert > Image, then browse to the image and click OK and the image will be inserted into the mail. Now you will probably find that it is displayed too big so left click on the image, scroll down to the bottom right corner and you will see a little square, place you cursor over the square and while holding down the left mouse button drag the image to the size you require.

This will only work if the person RECEIVING the email is using Outlook.
If the person who receives the email is not using Outlook, it is up to the mail program to decide how to display the image. Some will display it inline at full size. Some will show it as an attachment.

Brilliant answer! Everything is speed correctly, too. You must be from the Photoshop group.

🙂

Uni

RH
Ryan Hayward
Jul 20, 2005
Uni wrote:
tacit wrote:

In article ,
"Canopus" wrote:

However, lets assume you are both running at the same
screen resolution. Instead of sending it as a straight forward attachment, place the cursor where you want the picture inserted and go Insert > Image, then browse to the image and click OK and the image will be inserted into the mail. Now you will probably find that it is displayed too big so left click on the image, scroll down to the bottom right corner and you will see a little square, place you cursor over the square and while holding down the left mouse button drag the image to the size you require.

This will only work if the person RECEIVING the email is using Outlook.
If the person who receives the email is not using Outlook, it is up to the mail program to decide how to display the image. Some will display it inline at full size. Some will show it as an attachment.

Brilliant answer! Everything is speed correctly, too. You must be from the Photoshop group.

Uni, does your version of Mozilla show the smiley face as an actual smiley face like the version I am using ? 🙂

Man, I am never going back to Forte Agent.
Mozilla Thunderbird rocks as a text newsreader, the presentation of the interface is brilliant and pleasing to the eye, the color match to posters when reading is ingenious and is so easy to use. I personally donated 50 bucks usa a couple of days ago, its email capabilities are fantastic too.

🙂

Uni

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Uni
Jul 22, 2005
Ryan Hayward wrote:

Uni wrote:

tacit wrote:

In article ,
"Canopus" wrote:

However, lets assume you are both running at the same
screen resolution. Instead of sending it as a straight forward attachment, place the cursor where you want the picture inserted and go Insert > Image, then browse to the image and click OK and the image will be inserted into the mail. Now you will probably find that it is displayed too big so left click on the image, scroll down to the bottom right corner and you will see a little square, place you cursor over the square and while holding down the left mouse button drag the image to the size you require.

This will only work if the person RECEIVING the email is using Outlook.
If the person who receives the email is not using Outlook, it is up to the mail program to decide how to display the image. Some will display it inline at full size. Some will show it as an attachment.

Brilliant answer! Everything is speed correctly, too. You must be from the Photoshop group.

Uni, does your version of Mozilla show the smiley face as an actual smiley face like the version I am using ? 🙂

Yes, sir. All variations, too.

🙂 😀 😛 🙁

Man, I am never going back to Forte Agent.
Mozilla Thunderbird rocks as a text newsreader, the presentation of the interface is brilliant and pleasing to the eye, the color match to posters when reading is ingenious and is so easy to use. I personally donated 50 bucks usa a couple of days ago, its email capabilities are fantastic too.

Cool!!!! Netscape has its share of problems, but I can "deal" with them.

🙂

Uni

🙂

Uni

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Ryan Hayward
Jul 22, 2005
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Uni wrote:
Ryan Hayward wrote:

Uni wrote:

tacit wrote:

In article ,
"Canopus" wrote:

However, lets assume you are both running at the same
screen resolution. Instead of sending it as a straight forward attachment, place the cursor where you want the picture inserted and go
Insert > Image, then browse to the image and click OK and the image will be inserted into the mail. Now you will probably find that it is displayed too big so left click on the image, scroll down to the bottom
right corner and you will see a little square, place you cursor over the square and while holding down the left mouse button drag the image to the size you require.

This will only work if the person RECEIVING the email is using Outlook.
If the person who receives the email is not using Outlook, it is up to the mail program to decide how to display the image. Some will display it inline at full size. Some will show it as an attachment.

Brilliant answer! Everything is speed correctly, too. You must be from the Photoshop group.

Uni, does your version of Mozilla show the smiley face as an actual smiley face like the version I am using ? 🙂

Yes, sir. All variations, too.

🙂 😀 😛 🙁

Man, I am never going back to Forte Agent.
Mozilla Thunderbird rocks as a text newsreader, the presentation of the interface is brilliant and pleasing to the eye, the color match to posters when reading is ingenious and is so easy to use. I personally donated 50 bucks usa a couple of days ago, its email capabilities are fantastic too.

Cool!!!! Netscape has its share of problems, but I can "deal" with them.
🙂

Uni

🙂

Uni

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