how to paint straight lines, evenly colored?

"Greg N." wrote in message

Hi,
look at this example:

http://coolhaus.de/misc/brush.jpg

I want to paint an object, using the brush tool. Freehand painting produces wiggly lines, (left sample) which I don’t want. I want my object to consist of straight lines, like the right sample in the image.
I’m using the paint method where I click a starting point, then hold down Shift, and click an another point, and another, and so on.
This produces straight lines allright, but also a dark dot at each click point. I don’t want that either.

How can I paint an object consisting of straight line segments, but evenly colored?

Thanks for any help.
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Use the pen tool to create a PATH ONLY, then use the path dialogue to stroke the path. Current brush size and colour determine the stroke characteristics.

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Greg N. wrote:

Hi,
look at this example:

http://coolhaus.de/misc/brush.jpg

I want to paint an object, using the brush tool. Freehand painting produces wiggly lines, (left sample) which I don’t want. I want my object to consist of straight lines, like the right sample in the image.
I’m using the paint method where I click a starting point, then hold down Shift, and click an another point, and another, and so on.
This produces straight lines allright, but also a dark dot at each click point. I don’t want that either.

How can I paint an object consisting of straight line segments, but evenly colored?

Thanks for any help.

The Line tool?

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"edjh" wrote in message

Greg N. wrote:

Hi,
look at this example:

http://coolhaus.de/misc/brush.jpg

I want to paint an object, using the brush tool. Freehand painting produces wiggly lines, (left sample) which I don’t want. I want my object to consist of straight lines, like the right sample in the image.
I’m using the paint method where I click a starting point, then hold down Shift, and click an another point, and another, and so on.
This produces straight lines allright, but also a dark dot at each click point. I don’t want that either.

How can I paint an object consisting of straight line segments, but evenly colored?

Thanks for any help.

The Line tool?

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You can use your marquee tool and the subtract from option to outling what you want to paint, then you can paint with the out line with one contiupus stroke.

Greg N. wrote:

Hi,
look at this example:

http://coolhaus.de/misc/brush.jpg

I want to paint an object, using the brush tool. Freehand painting produces wiggly lines, (left sample) which I don’t want. I want my object to consist of straight lines, like the right sample in the image.
I’m using the paint method where I click a starting point, then hold down Shift, and click an another point, and another, and so on.
This produces straight lines allright, but also a dark dot at each click point. I don’t want that either.

How can I paint an object consisting of straight line segments, but evenly colored?

Thanks for any help.

stroke! you can stroke paths and/or selections. you can also paint straight lines with the brush by making a starting point (one click with the brush) then moving the brush to an ending point, pressing shift, then clicking on the ending point.

neon wrote:

http://coolhaus.de/misc/brush.jpg

stroke! you can stroke paths and/or selections.

I tried that. I used the pen tool to paint a path, but the stroke function only lets me fill areas surrounded by a path. That’s not what I want, I want to change the path itself into a colored line.

Can you describe, step by step, how to use the pen tool to paint a red square like the one shown in the right side of my sample image (see URL above)?

you can also paint straight lines with the brush by making a starting point (one click with the brush) then moving the brush to an ending point, pressing shift, then clicking on the ending point.

That’s what I described in my original post. I you make a chain straight lines, this method creates dark dots at the click points, where the segments join. See my sample image above. I want to avoid the dark dots. Help!

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"Greg N." wrote in message

neon wrote:

http://coolhaus.de/misc/brush.jpg

stroke! you can stroke paths and/or selections.

I tried that. I used the pen tool to paint a path, but the stroke function only lets me fill areas surrounded by a path. That’s not what I want, I want to change the path itself into a colored line.
Can you describe, step by step, how to use the pen tool to paint a red square like the one shown in the right side of my sample image (see URL above)?

you can also paint straight lines with the brush by making a starting point (one click with the brush) then moving the brush to an ending point, pressing shift, then clicking on the ending point.

That’s what I described in my original post. I you make a chain straight lines, this method creates dark dots at the click points, where the segments join. See my sample image above. I want to avoid the dark dots. Help!

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Try using one of your lasso or marquee tools to outline your box, first outline the outside edge and then switch the tool to "subtract from" and outline the inside edge. Now you can paint the entire circumference.

Greg N. wrote:

neon wrote:

http://coolhaus.de/misc/brush.jpg

stroke! you can stroke paths and/or selections.

I tried that. I used the pen tool to paint a path, but the stroke function only lets me fill areas surrounded by a path. That’s not what I want, I want to change the path itself into a colored line.

That’s incorrect. You can stroke the path itself. Look again. The easiest way is to pick a brush size and color and hit Enter.

Can you describe, step by step, how to use the pen tool to paint a red square like the one shown in the right side of my sample image (see URL above)?

Why not use the Line tool?

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edjh wrote:

That’s incorrect. You can stroke the path itself. Look again. The easiest way is to pick a brush size and color and hit Enter.

Got it! Success! Thanks.

Why not use the Line tool?

The line tool has the same problem as the brush tool: It creates dark spots where the line segments join.

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Greg N. wrote:

edjh wrote:

That’s incorrect. You can stroke the path itself. Look again. The easiest way is to pick a brush size and color and hit Enter.

Got it! Success! Thanks.

Why not use the Line tool?

The line tool has the same problem as the brush tool: It creates dark spots where the line segments join.

I think you must have Opacity or a Blend Mode set weird or something. Neither tool should do that.

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"Greg N." wrote in message

neon wrote:

http://coolhaus.de/misc/brush.jpg

stroke! you can stroke paths and/or selections.

I tried that. I used the pen tool to paint a path, but the stroke function only lets me fill areas surrounded by a path. That’s not what I want, I want to change the path itself into a colored line.
Can you describe, step by step, how to use the pen tool to paint a red square like the one shown in the right side of my sample image (see URL above)?

you can also paint straight lines with the brush by making a starting point (one click with the brush) then moving the brush to an ending point, pressing shift, then clicking on the ending point.

That’s what I described in my original post. I you make a chain straight lines, this method creates dark dots at the click points, where the segments join. See my sample image above. I want to avoid the dark dots. Help!

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because you are using transparent strokes!! of course they show through. change opacity to 100%
or use pen or line tools, better for making straight lines anyway.

Greg N. wrote:

Hi,
look at this example:

http://coolhaus.de/misc/brush.jpg

I want to paint an object, using the brush tool. Freehand painting produces wiggly lines, (left sample) which I don’t want. I want my object to consist of straight lines, like the right sample in the image.
I’m using the paint method where I click a starting point, then hold down Shift, and click an another point, and another, and so on.
This produces straight lines allright, but also a dark dot at each click point. I don’t want that either.

How can I paint an object consisting of straight line segments, but evenly colored?

Thanks for any help.

i’m sorry, but, just understanding brush settings goes a long way toward eliminating your problem. other respondents mentioned blending and opacity, all correct and all affect the appearance of the line. there’s also brush spacing and the air brush option. if you have brush parameters set correctly doing what you want is no problem at all. all covered in the manual, help and numerous tutorials.

neon wrote:

i’m sorry, but, just understanding brush settings goes a long way toward eliminating your problem. other respondents mentioned blending and opacity, all correct and all affect the appearance of the line. there’s also brush spacing and the air brush option. if you have brush parameters set correctly doing what you want is no problem at all. all covered in the manual, help and numerous tutorials.

Rest assured that I read and tried everything I could think of before I ran out of inspiration and asked here.

What kind of worthless answer ist that, anyway? Do you know the answer, but you’re not telling me, and give me an RTFM instead? Why do you take the trouble of typing a post at all, then?

Or do you *NOT* know the answer but feel compelled to make some smart remarks anyway? You’re wasting your and my time.

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Greg N. wrote:

neon wrote:

i’m sorry, but, just understanding brush settings goes a long way toward eliminating your problem. other respondents mentioned blending and opacity, all correct and all affect the appearance of the line. there’s also brush spacing and the air brush option. if you have brush parameters set correctly doing what you want is no problem at all. all covered in the manual, help and numerous tutorials.

Rest assured that I read and tried everything I could think of before I ran out of inspiration and asked here.

What kind of worthless answer ist that, anyway? Do you know the answer, but you’re not telling me, and give me an RTFM instead? Why do you take the trouble of typing a post at all, then?

Or do you *NOT* know the answer but feel compelled to make some smart remarks anyway? You’re wasting your and my time.

if i didn’t know the answer i wouldn’t have responded. both edjh & katwoman told you what to do. all i did was reinforce what they said and offer a little more info. edjh & katwoman both said your brush opacity setting was the problem and, based on your description of your problem, i’ll bet they’re right. if you have opacity set to 100% and 100% hardness and 1% spacing you shouldn’t get any buildup at the corners. further, if you make a selection and stroke it, there won’t be any build-up regardless of the opacity. same with stroking a path. and if all you get when trying to stroke a path is fill, then you’re probably working on a style layer, not a work path.
the reason i take the trouble of typing a response is because i assume that the person posting the question will read it. now, considering that at least 2 people told you how to solve your problem before i responded, i guess my assumption was wrong.

neon wrote:

edjh & katwoman both said your brush
opacity setting was the problem and,
based on your description of your
problem, i’ll bet they’re right.

No. The color transparency that I use is not a problem, it is a requirement.

if you have opacity set to 100% and
100% hardness and 1% spacing you shouldn’t
get any buildup at the corners.

sure, that’s not hard to see. I meant to ask, how can I avoid the "buildup" with transparent lines? The photo edit program that I used to use before I switched to photoshop was able to avoid it, hence this is a justified question, no?

further, if you make a selection and stroke it,
there won’t be any build-up regardless of the opacity.

This technique only works for me if I manage to stroke the whole selection in one go. But if I let go of the mouse button, then continue my work – bingo, I get buildup. Besides, selection is not an applicable technique in my case, for various reasons.

the reason i take the trouble of typing a response is because i assume that the person posting the question will read it. now, considering that at least 2 people told you how to solve your problem before i responded, i guess my assumption was wrong.

Well, I did read all reponses and indeed got a good solution from edjh’s post. I replied: "Got it! Success! Thanks".

You must have missed that. Then came your post, which smacked to me of snotty RTFM (which is OK, I guess) but added nothing to the solution nor to anything discussed so far.

Looks like you, not me, should have followed the thread a bit more thoroughly.

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Greg N. wrote:

neon wrote:

edjh & katwoman both said your brush opacity setting was the problem and, based on your description of your problem, i’ll bet they’re right.

No. The color transparency that I use is not a problem, it is a requirement.

if you have opacity set to 100% and
100% hardness and 1% spacing you shouldn’t get any buildup at the corners.

sure, that’s not hard to see. I meant to ask, how can I avoid the "buildup" with transparent lines? The photo edit program that I used to use before I switched to photoshop was able to avoid it, hence this is a justified question, no?

further, if you make a selection and stroke it, there won’t be any build-up regardless of the opacity.

This technique only works for me if I manage to stroke the whole selection in one go. But if I let go of the mouse button, then continue my work – bingo, I get buildup. Besides, selection is not an applicable technique in my case, for various reasons.

the reason i take the trouble of typing a response is because i assume that the person posting the question will read it. now, considering that at least 2 people told you how to solve your problem before i responded, i guess my assumption was wrong.

Well, I did read all reponses and indeed got a good solution from edjh’s post. I replied: "Got it! Success! Thanks".
You must have missed that. Then came your post, which smacked to me of snotty RTFM (which is OK, I guess) but added nothing to the solution nor to anything discussed so far.

Looks like you, not me, should have followed the thread a bit more thoroughly.

my apologies…maybe i was a bit harsh. and i didn’t mean to RTFM you. i only meant to encourage you to consult other sources like help, tutorials, etc. many people who post here use this as their first resource when they have problems. my intent was only to give additional info which might have been helpful. i didn’t realize that you needed to use reduced opacity. after edjh mentioned opacity settings and you responded that it worked for you i assumed you meant your opacity setting was the problem. sorry for the misunderstanding.