Undoing unsharp mask

In article <_yPQe.3387$>,
says…

(PS 6.0, Windows XT Home)

I use Layer/New Adjustment Layer for my color corrections of photos, but cannot figure out how to make the Filter/Sharpen/Unsharp Mask into a layer, or otherwise make it reversible once I’ve saved the file.
—
– Alan Justice

To date, and AFAIK, the best plan is to either do the USM on a Dupe Layer, or to Save_As (different file name), prior to running it. Same holds true for Edit>Adjustment>Highlight & Shadow.

Hunt

Thanks. I tried it, and either way, I end up with twice the disk space. Right? Do the new PSs do better?

BTW, if I only do the USM on a small part of the image, do I still have to save double the file size? I.e., can you make a dupe layer of a part of the image?

—
– Alan Justice

"Hunt" wrote in message

In article <_yPQe.3387$>,
says…

(PS 6.0, Windows XT Home)

I use Layer/New Adjustment Layer for my color corrections of photos, but cannot figure out how to make the Filter/Sharpen/Unsharp Mask into a

layer,

or otherwise make it reversible once I’ve saved the file.
—
– Alan Justice

To date, and AFAIK, the best plan is to either do the USM on a Dupe Layer,

or

to Save_As (different file name), prior to running it. Same holds true for Edit>Adjustment>Highlight & Shadow.

Hunt

"Alan Justice" wrote in message

I.e., can you make a dupe layer of a part of the image?

Layer–>flatten image

"Alan Justice" wrote in message

(PS 6.0, Windows XT Home)

I use Layer/New Adjustment Layer for my color corrections of photos, but cannot figure out how to make the Filter/Sharpen/Unsharp Mask into a layer,
or otherwise make it reversible once I’ve saved the file.
—
– Alan Justice

Hi there.

If you use the other way of sharpening, you can keep the sharpening on a separate layer.

Make a duplicate layer, or a layer of the selection. With that layer active, apply High Pass filter at about 10%. On Layer Palette select Blending Mode of Hard Light. Adjust Opacity slider until you get the degree of sharpening you want. You can make this layer invisible / visible, which allows you to compare the before and after effect.

Saving the image with an extra layer must, of course, increase the file size.

Roy G

"Alan Justice" wrote in message

(PS 6.0, Windows XT Home)

I use Layer/New Adjustment Layer for my color corrections of photos, but cannot figure out how to make the Filter/Sharpen/Unsharp Mask into a layer,
or otherwise make it reversible once I’ve saved the file.
—
– Alan Justice

Howdo, Alan! Here’s a note I wrote up for a friend who uses Elements. It is a method of adding a layer mask to *any* Enhancement or Filter effect. . . . ********
WHAT:
We assume we know how to use and manage layer masks that are created with an adjustment layer to control where and how strong the adjustment is to apply to the target layer.
Unfortunately, PS Elements and earlier versions of PS do not provide a layer mask for any of the Enhance or Filter effects.

However, a Clipping Mask acts like an Adjustment Layer mask for any Enhance or Filter effect! Apply any Enhance or Filter effect to a new copy layer of your image, then create a clipping mask for that layer and paint on the mask to control where that effect shows. The target image will appear only where there are active pixels in the linked clipping mask below it.

E.g., to blur only the complexion in a portrait, blur the entire layer, create a clipping mask, then paint on the face but not on the eyes or lips and other fine detail you want to preserve to control where and how much the complexion is smoothed.

HOW:
Copy your image to a new layer to isolate any Enhancement or Filter effects to that single layer.
Apply your Enhance or Filter effect (e.g., Unsharpen) to that target layer. Ctrl-click on the New Layer icon at the bottom of the the layers palette to create an empty layer *below* the target.
Make the target layer active again.
Ctrl-G to make the new, empty layer below it a mask for the target layer. (This blocks the entire target layer because the mask contains no active pixels. The target layer will appear only where you add active pixels in the mask.)
Make the mask layer active and paint black where you want the effect to show.
Use the Eraser tool (NOT a white brush) to correct painting errors OR back up in the History palette.
Vary the opacity and softness of the brush to control the strength of the effect

To further edit the target layer, first make the mask layer active and paint over the areas you expect to edit so you can see
what you are doing. Make your edits on the target layer. Then erase/paint again on the mask layer to control the
new edit.

OR, to start over on the entire layer: Select all of the mask layer (Ctrl-click on the mask icon in the layers palette)
and delete all (Ctrl-X). The entire target will be blocked and you can start painting/erasing from
scratch.

You are not limited to painting on the mask. You can enter blocked text on the mask and the
body of the letters will show the content of the target layer (e.g. a pattern or field of leaves)

You can perform any operation on the masking layer that you can apply to a grey scale image: blur to
control feathering, twist, add gradients, etc.
******************

Hope this helps!
Good luck! . . . patrick

"Alan Justice" wrote in message

Thanks. I tried it, and either way, I end up with twice the disk space. Right? Do the new PSs do better?

BTW, if I only do the USM on a small part of the image, do I still have to save double the file size? I.e., can you make a dupe layer of a part of the
image?

—
– Alan Justice

"Hunt" wrote in message

In article <_yPQe.3387$>,
says…

(PS 6.0, Windows XT Home)

I use Layer/New Adjustment Layer for my color corrections of photos, but
cannot figure out how to make the Filter/Sharpen/Unsharp Mask into a

layer,

or otherwise make it reversible once I’ve saved the file.
—
– Alan Justice

To date, and AFAIK, the best plan is to either do the USM on a Dupe Layer,

or

to Save_As (different file name), prior to running it. Same holds true for
Edit>Adjustment>Highlight & Shadow.

Hunt

If you want to be able to get back to further edit previous effects, you’re pretty much stuck with isolating those effects on their own layers and presrving the layers in a .psd file. The file size will, indeed, be increased.

Once you’re truly satisfied with the edits, you can flatten all layers to get back close to your original file size. But now your image is cast in quicksand.
.. . . . patrick

"Roy" wrote in message

"Alan Justice" wrote in message

(PS 6.0, Windows XT Home)

I use Layer/New Adjustment Layer for my color corrections of photos, but cannot figure out how to make the Filter/Sharpen/Unsharp Mask into a layer,
or otherwise make it reversible once I’ve saved the file.
—
– Alan Justice

Hi there.

If you use the other way of sharpening, you can keep the sharpening on a separate layer.

Make a duplicate layer, or a layer of the selection. With that layer active, apply High Pass filter at about 10%. On Layer Palette select Blending Mode of Hard Light. Adjust Opacity slider until you get the degree of sharpening you want. You can make this layer invisible / visible, which allows you to compare the before and after effect.
Saving the image with an extra layer must, of course, increase the file size.

Roy G

Roy is right, of course.
However, the clipping mask approach can be applied to *any* Enhance or Filter effect, not just sharpening via Filter>Other>High Pass. .. . . . patrick

In article <jpTQe.5015$>,
says…

Thanks. I tried it, and either way, I end up with twice the disk space. Right? Do the new PSs do better?

BTW, if I only do the USM on a small part of the image, do I still have to save double the file size? I.e., can you make a dupe layer of a part of the image?

—
– Alan Justice

"Hunt" wrote in message

In article <_yPQe.3387$>,
says…

(PS 6.0, Windows XT Home)

I use Layer/New Adjustment Layer for my color corrections of photos, but cannot figure out how to make the Filter/Sharpen/Unsharp Mask into a

layer,

or otherwise make it reversible once I’ve saved the file.
—
– Alan Justice

To date, and AFAIK, the best plan is to either do the USM on a Dupe Layer,

or

to Save_As (different file name), prior to running it. Same holds true for Edit>Adjustment>Highlight & Shadow.

Hunt

Yes, unfortunately Alan, you will end up with larger files and often several versions of these files. Until Adobe comes up with a way to save an active History with PSD’s, we must live with this, or very similar methods. If you have a spare USB port, or a good hub, just grab a removable HDD to hold these versions. Then, before you ship off the final, burn a CD/DVD (or two) of these versions, then Delete them. Intermediate versions have saved my skin many, many times, when the client says, "you know, I like that version that you showed me three weeks ago, better… "

Hunt

In article <_yPQe.3387$>,
"Alan Justice" wrote:

I use Layer/New Adjustment Layer for my color corrections of photos, but cannot figure out how to make the Filter/Sharpen/Unsharp Mask into a layer, or otherwise make it reversible once I’ve saved the file.

You cannot make any filter reversible; Photoshop does not offer "filter layers."

—
Art, photography, shareware, polyamory, literature, kink: all at http://www.xeromag.com/franklin.html

"patrick" wrote in message news:…

"Alan Justice" wrote in message

(PS 6.0, Windows XT Home)

I use Layer/New Adjustment Layer for my color corrections of photos, but cannot figure out how to make the Filter/Sharpen/Unsharp Mask into a layer,
or otherwise make it reversible once I’ve saved the file.
—
– Alan Justice

Howdo, Alan! Here’s a note I wrote up for a friend who uses Elements. It is a method of adding a layer mask to *any* Enhancement or Filter effect. . . .
********
WHAT:
We assume we know how to use and manage layer masks that are created with an adjustment layer to control where and how strong the adjustment is to apply to the target layer.
Unfortunately, PS Elements and earlier versions of PS do not provide a layer mask for any of the Enhance or Filter effects.

However, a Clipping Mask acts like an Adjustment Layer mask for any Enhance or Filter effect! Apply any Enhance or Filter effect to a new copy layer of your image, then create a clipping mask for that layer and paint on the mask to control where that effect shows. The target image will appear only where there are active pixels in the linked clipping mask below it.

E.g., to blur only the complexion in a portrait, blur the entire layer, create a clipping mask, then paint on the face but not on the eyes or lips and other fine detail you want to preserve to control where and how much the complexion is smoothed.

HOW:
Copy your image to a new layer to isolate any Enhancement or Filter effects to that single layer.
Apply your Enhance or Filter effect (e.g., Unsharpen) to that target layer.
Ctrl-click on the New Layer icon at the bottom of the the layers palette to create an empty layer *below* the target.
Make the target layer active again.
Ctrl-G to make the new, empty layer below it a mask for the target layer. (This blocks the entire target layer because the mask contains no active pixels. The target layer will appear only where you add active pixels in the mask.)
Make the mask layer active and paint black where you want the effect to show.
Use the Eraser tool (NOT a white brush) to correct painting errors OR back up in the History palette.
Vary the opacity and softness of the brush to control the strength of the effect

To further edit the target layer, first make the mask layer active and paint over the areas you expect to edit so you can see
what you are doing. Make your edits on the target layer. Then erase/paint again on the mask layer to control the
new edit.

OR, to start over on the entire layer: Select all of the mask layer (Ctrl-click on the mask icon in the layers palette)
and delete all (Ctrl-X). The entire target will be blocked and you can start painting/erasing from
scratch.

You are not limited to painting on the mask. You can enter blocked text on the mask and the
body of the letters will show the content of the target layer (e.g. a pattern or field of leaves)

You can perform any operation on the masking layer that you can apply to a grey scale image: blur to
control feathering, twist, add gradients, etc.
******************

Hope this helps!
Good luck! . . . patrick

Just wondering, Are you the same Alan Justice I used to work with at Fisher Body?

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"John Forest" wrote in message

Just wondering, Are you the same Alan Justice I used to work with at Fisher Body?