Monitor Calibration for Fuji icc Profile?

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Sep 7, 2005
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Hi, really hoping someone can help me with this. I have the icc profile of printer of the lab I use for prints (Fuji Frontier) and use this to softproof in photoshop. What I really, really want, though is something that can make what I see on my monitor match this profile. I have tried profiling the monitor many ways, but think I must need some software/hardware to somehow replicate what the printer will actually print.
Is such a product available that I can somehow feed in the icc profile of the printer and thus get what I see on the monitor on the prints I get from the printer? Any and all help will be appreciated! Thanks, Lynn

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nomail
Sep 7, 2005
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Hi, really hoping someone can help me with this. I have the icc profile of printer of the lab I use for prints (Fuji Frontier) and use this to softproof in photoshop. What I really, really want, though is something that can make what I see on my monitor match this profile. I have tried profiling the monitor many ways, but think I must need some software/hardware to somehow replicate what the printer will actually print.
Is such a product available that I can somehow feed in the icc profile of the printer and thus get what I see on the monitor on the prints I get from the printer? Any and all help will be appreciated! Thanks, Lynn

The only thing you need to do is go to ‘View – Proof Setup’ and select that Fuji profile. Next, after you’ve opened your image, you go to ‘View – Proof Colors’. Now you will see your image AS IF IT WAS PRINTED on that Fuji machine. This is what we call a ‘soft proof’ and this is the reason why you got that profile in the first place.

If you like what you see, that’s fine and that’s what you’ll get. If you don’t like it, edit the image until you like what you see, but keep ‘Proof Colors’ selected all the time.

Don’t fiddle with your monitor settings! Calibrate your monitor and don’t touch the dials afterwards. If you start messing around with your monitor, you’ll mess up that soft proof and you will never get a match.


Johan W. Elzenga johan<<at>>johanfoto.nl Editor / Photographer http://www.johanfoto.nl/
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nomail
Sep 7, 2005
wrote:

Hi, really hoping someone can help me with this. I have the icc profile of printer of the lab I use for prints (Fuji Frontier) and use this to softproof in photoshop. What I really, really want, though is something that can make what I see on my monitor match this profile. I have tried profiling the monitor many ways, but think I must need some software/hardware to somehow replicate what the printer will actually print.
Is such a product available that I can somehow feed in the icc profile of the printer and thus get what I see on the monitor on the prints I get from the printer? Any and all help will be appreciated! Thanks, Lynn

Lynn,

If you post a question in two groups, use CROSS posting (meaning ONE message with both groupd in the "To field’). Don’t make two different posts. This is what I already answered in the other group:

The only thing you need to do is go to ‘View – Proof Setup’ and select that Fuji profile. Next, after you’ve opened your image, you go to ‘View – Proof Colors’. Now you will see your image AS IF IT WAS PRINTED on that Fuji machine. This is what we call a ‘soft proof’ and this is the reason why you got that profile in the first place.

If you like what you see, that’s fine and that’s what you’ll get. If you don’t like it, edit the image until you like what you see, but keep ‘Proof Colors’ selected all the time.

Don’t fiddle with your monitor settings! Calibrate your monitor and don’t touch the dials afterwards. If you start messing around with your monitor, you’ll mess up that soft proof and you will never get a match.


Johan W. Elzenga johan<<at>>johanfoto.nl Editor / Photographer http://www.johanfoto.nl/
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Stephan
Sep 7, 2005
Johan W. Elzenga wrote:
wrote:

Hi, really hoping someone can help me with this. I have the icc profile of printer of the lab I use for prints (Fuji Frontier) and use this to softproof in photoshop. What I really, really want, though is something that can make what I see on my monitor match this profile. I have tried profiling the monitor many ways, but think I must need some software/hardware to somehow replicate what the printer will actually print.
Is such a product available that I can somehow feed in the icc profile of the printer and thus get what I see on the monitor on the prints I get from the printer? Any and all help will be appreciated! Thanks, Lynn

The only thing you need to do is go to ‘View – Proof Setup’ and select that Fuji profile. Next, after you’ve opened your image, you go to ‘View – Proof Colors’. Now you will see your image AS IF IT WAS PRINTED on that Fuji machine. This is what we call a ‘soft proof’ and this is the reason why you got that profile in the first place.

If you like what you see, that’s fine and that’s what you’ll get. If you don’t like it, edit the image until you like what you see, but keep ‘Proof Colors’ selected all the time.

Don’t fiddle with your monitor settings! Calibrate your monitor and don’t touch the dials afterwards. If you start messing around with your monitor, you’ll mess up that soft proof and you will never get a match.

Johan,
I agree with the above but would like to add that it is a good idea to run the calibration maybe once a month.
Hardware ages and in my case my monitor tends to shift slowly but surely towards green.

Stephan
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Roy
Sep 7, 2005
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Hi, really hoping someone can help me with this. I have the icc profile of printer of the lab I use for prints (Fuji Frontier) and use this to softproof in photoshop. What I really, really want, though is something that can make what I see on my monitor match this profile. I have tried profiling the monitor many ways, but think I must need some software/hardware to somehow replicate what the printer will actually print.
Is such a product available that I can somehow feed in the icc profile of the printer and thus get what I see on the monitor on the prints I get from the printer? Any and all help will be appreciated! Thanks, Lynn

Hi.

You have had some good answers, in this group.

What you see when you look at the print using View > Proof Colours when the Fuji Profile is selected, is how the print should be when it is printed on the Fuji.

While there will be differences in appearance from how your picture looks on Screen in theWorkspace Profile, they should not be very large differences.

Have you actually had one of these files printed by the Lab, and does the print look like it’s soft proof?

If you have and it does not, then there is something wrong in your workflow, and it is most likely the Monitor needs Calibration.

In one of the other groups you were advised to convert to the Fuji Profile, and "save" before sending the file off for printing. This might well be wrong.

I would suspect that the Lab will apply the Fuji Profile while the prints are being made, and that would result in the corrections being applied to an already corrected file.

If however the Lab just Prints without applying their profile, then that might well be the correct way to proceed.

Try having some prints made, with only the sRGB profile tagged, and some others with the Fuji Profile tagged.

For a workflow routine, and Calibration instructions, have a look at my local club site www.ayrphoto.co.uk go to the "Notices & Info" pages, and the articles on "How to Print for Accurate Colour" & on "How to Set Up and use Soft Proofing"

Roy G
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lynnherrick
Sep 8, 2005
Thanks for your help, everyone. Hopefully my days of suprisingly rosy prints will soon be over! Lynn
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nomail
Sep 8, 2005
Stephan wrote:

The only thing you need to do is go to ‘View – Proof Setup’ and select that Fuji profile. Next, after you’ve opened your image, you go to ‘View – Proof Colors’. Now you will see your image AS IF IT WAS PRINTED on that Fuji machine. This is what we call a ‘soft proof’ and this is the reason why you got that profile in the first place.

If you like what you see, that’s fine and that’s what you’ll get. If you don’t like it, edit the image until you like what you see, but keep ‘Proof Colors’ selected all the time.

Don’t fiddle with your monitor settings! Calibrate your monitor and don’t touch the dials afterwards. If you start messing around with your monitor, you’ll mess up that soft proof and you will never get a match.

Johan,
I agree with the above but would like to add that it is a good idea to run the calibration maybe once a month.
Hardware ages and in my case my monitor tends to shift slowly but surely towards green.

Yes. If you buy a calibration package, you’ll see that this is one of the recommendations.


Johan W. Elzenga johan<<at>>johanfoto.nl Editor / Photographer http://www.johanfoto.nl/
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Clyde
Sep 8, 2005
Lynn wrote:
Thanks for your help, everyone. Hopefully my days of suprisingly rosy prints will soon be over! Lynn

Surprisingly rosy prints usually means that you are doubling up on the color management. You are having Photoshop correct the colors AND you are having the printer driver correct the colors. You need to only have one doing the work.

Clyde
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nomail
Sep 8, 2005
Clyde wrote:

Lynn wrote:
Thanks for your help, everyone. Hopefully my days of suprisingly rosy prints will soon be over! Lynn

Surprisingly rosy prints usually means that you are doubling up on the color management. You are having Photoshop correct the colors AND you are having the printer driver correct the colors. You need to only have one doing the work.

She doesn’t print herself, it’s sent to a printer who uses a Fuji Frontier minilab.


Johan W. Elzenga johan<<at>>johanfoto.nl Editor / Photographer http://www.johanfoto.nl/
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lynnherrick
Sep 18, 2005
Thanks, I’ve calibrated my monitor with the Spyder. It did need calibration! Softproofes with the Fuji ICC profile and tried sending off for prints with and without the conversion. The ones without were perfect. Thanks again for your help!

Lynn
www.herrick-photo.co.uk
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Michael J Davis
Sep 19, 2005
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Thanks, I’ve calibrated my monitor with the Spyder. It did need calibration! Softproofes with the Fuji ICC profile and tried sending off for prints with and without the conversion. The ones without were perfect. Thanks again for your help!

‘The ones *without* were perfect’?

Is that what you mean?

Mike
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