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Tina_Parziale
Jun 22, 2004
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Hi there: I wonder if anyone can help me with the following

My Olympus E digital pictures are 2560 by 1920 pix and 300 Res. When I print them (especially if taken with a wide angle lens) using the HP photosmart printer in a size such as 4X6 or even 8X10 my images are cropped automatically.

What I am looking for is to print the entire picture in a 4X6 or 8X10 with no cropping.

Is there a special formula for doing this?
I realize both the pixels and the resolutions are high: if I crop the pictures I will lose some of the quality.

The same thing happens when I resize the images using the Wizard.

I am new at this so any help will be appreciated.

Thanks
Tina

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Colin_Walls
Jun 22, 2004
Load the image into PS.
Click File/Print with Preview …
Click on Page setup and select your paper size
Check on scale to fit media
Click Print …

That should get you the results you need, but I would recommend some reading up on image resolution etc.
TI
Thomas_Ireland
Jun 22, 2004
Tina,

I have and Olympus C3020 and have experienced similar problems printing with my Canon i860 printer.

What I have found that works is to cover all the bases.

1. Make sure the printer settings are correct. This means the size and type of the media I am printing to, and also the desired quality of the print. This is done in the "properties" dialog box that comes up with My Computer> Control Panel> Printers. Right-click on the printer you are using and choose "Properties"

2. In Photoshop CS I click File> Page Setup (I think. I’m not at the right machine right now.), and set the options there.

3. Finally, when printing from Photoshop CS, I use "Print with Preview" to be sure it is going to print the way I want it to.

If you really, really really, want to be sure, print to standard paper and cancel the printing part-way into it. This will show you the orientation, and size on cheap paper and not use the more expensive photo paper.

Hope this helps,

Tom Ireland
MM
Mac_McDougald
Jun 22, 2004
2560 by 1920

Problem is just the math of the matter.

That does not translate to 8×10 OR 4×6 directly.

Is different aspect ratio.

No way to get either of those sizes without cropping, just like you can’t make an 8×10 directly from 35mm without doing it.

You can print entire image ON an 8×10 sheet, with larger border on two sides, without cropping.

M
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Jim
Jun 22, 2004
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Hi there: I wonder if anyone can help me with the following
My Olympus E digital pictures are 2560 by 1920 pix and 300 Res. When I
print them (especially if taken with a wide angle lens) using the HP photosmart printer in a size such as 4X6 or even 8X10 my images are cropped automatically.
What I am looking for is to print the entire picture in a 4X6 or 8X10 with
no cropping.
This is not possible as a result of the image aspect ratio. You can make a print that is 4×5.33 or a print that is 8×10.66 from this image. The same thing happens in film cameras. For instance, you cannot make an 8×10 print from a 35mm frame without significant cropping.
Is there a special formula for doing this?
I realize both the pixels and the resolutions are high: if I crop the
pictures I will lose some of the quality.
No, you don’t lose quality. What you do lose is some of the image.
The same thing happens when I resize the images using the Wizard.
Certainly.
Jim
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Colin_Walls
Jun 22, 2004
You can print entire image ON an 8×10 sheet, with larger border on two sides, without cropping

That’s what I assumed was wanted, as nothing else makes sense.

It’s an odd thing – the way standard paper sizes don’t fit with standard image ratios. Just like in the old days of film …
MM
Mac_McDougald
Jun 22, 2004
Well, remember that photo paper sizes were generally based on pre-35mm or 120 film formats.

4×5 and 8×10 sheet film.

Think Matthew Brady and etc 🙂

M
CW
Colin_Walls
Jun 22, 2004
Well, remember that photo paper sizes were generally based on pre-35mm or 120 film formats

Isn’t is a shame that th echange ot digital wasn’t seived as an opportunity to fix things. A ratio of 1 to 1.414… would work rather well. 🙂
TP
Tina_Parziale
Jun 23, 2004
HI Guys:

thanks for all your help. I gues there is no way to do it without cropping.

I have been trying everything including resampling. However if I crop don’t I lose part of the image?
I really wanted to print the whole picture in a smaller size to fit the for ex 4X6 paper. Am I asking for the impossible?

Thanks
Tina
MM
Mac_McDougald
Jun 23, 2004
2560×1920 image.
Use:
Image/Image Size
Resample off
change short side to 4 inches
Other side changes to 5.3 inches
Print on 4×6.
Voila.

M
CW
Colin_Walls
Jun 23, 2004
Am I asking for the impossible?

Yes and no.

Since the aspect ratio of your image is wrong for the paper sizes [as it is for most cameras] it won’t fill the paper. So you’ll need to trim it or crop the picture.

You could distort the image to fit a different aspect ratio, but it would be just plain horrible.
JH
Jim_Hess
Jun 23, 2004
With my 5 MP digital camera, if I change the long side of the photo to 10 inches using the resize option, and I constrain proportions, the short side changes to 7.5 inches. That is just the way things are. There must be a certain amount of picture loss if you must have exactly a specific size picture. Otherwise, the picture would be noticeably distorted.
TP
Tina_Parziale
Jun 23, 2004
Hi Colin and Mac: thanks again for your help. I tried the re sampling and it is a little better. I think I just have to crop the pictures especially those taken with my wide angle lens. They are even bigger and more resolutions!

Please post if you can think of something else I can try.

Thanks again
Tina
MM
Mac_McDougald
Jun 24, 2004
You said previously, "I really wanted to print the whole picture in a smaller size to fit the for ex 4X6 paper".

I told you exactly how to do that in one simple step. So what else can we offer?

M
CW
Colin_Walls
Jun 24, 2004
I tried the re sampling and it is a little better

That’s the last thing you want to do. Do not check that box!

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