making copies of photos

Hi I have a wedding cd slideshow that a photographer made of the wedding and I need to make copies of some pictures, but it won’t let me. Can some one tell me how to decode this cd so I can do this? The file type is in MOV thanks [[pat]]

"detap" wrote in message

Hi I have a wedding cd slideshow that a photographer made of the wedding and
I need to make copies of some pictures, but it won’t let me. Can some one tell me how to decode this cd so I can do this? The file type is in MOV thanks [[pat]]

They are no longer in photo format. All you can do is take screen grabs, which will not be very good quality.

On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 06:15:41 -0700, "detap" wrote:

Hi I have a wedding cd slideshow that a photographer made of the wedding and I need to make copies of some pictures, but it won’t let me. Can some one tell me how to decode this cd so I can do this? The file type is in MOV thanks [[pat]]

Just write the photographer a short note starting out "I would like to deprive you of your income as a professional by making my own extra copies of your work" I’m sure he’ll get right back to you.

—

Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL

On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 08:12:41 -0700, "detap" wrote:

deprive my ass I have sent at lest two of his kid to collage with what I have paid him

If you can’t afford a professional, buy a Brownie.

"Tony Cooper" wrote in message

On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 06:15:41 -0700, "detap" wrote:

Hi I have a wedding cd slideshow that a photographer made of the wedding

and

I need to make copies of some pictures, but it won’t let me. Can some

one

tell me how to decode this cd so I can do this? The file type is in MOV thanks [[pat]]

Just write the photographer a short note starting out "I would like to deprive you of your income as a professional by making my own extra copies of your work" I’m sure he’ll get right back to you.

—

Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL

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Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL

"detap" wrote in message

deprive my ass I have sent at lest two of his kid to collage with what I have paid him

I wonder how you manage to earn enough to do that when you cannot spell ‘least’ or ‘college’, don’t know that ‘someone’ is one word, and cannot manage the plural of ‘kid’?
(Let’s not venture into the area of punctuation)
If you paid the guy properly for his pictures instead of attempting to steal them then it could be that three of his kids might have been able to go to college.

deprive my ass I have sent at lest two of his kid to collage with what I have paid him

"Tony Cooper" wrote in message

On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 06:15:41 -0700, "detap" wrote:

Hi I have a wedding cd slideshow that a photographer made of the wedding

and

I need to make copies of some pictures, but it won’t let me. Can some

one

tell me how to decode this cd so I can do this? The file type is in MOV thanks [[pat]]

Just write the photographer a short note starting out "I would like to deprive you of your income as a professional by making my own extra copies of your work" I’m sure he’ll get right back to you.

—

Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL

In article <ogq6f.3$>, "detap"
wrote:

Hi I have a wedding cd slideshow that a photographer made of the wedding and I need to make copies of some pictures, but it won’t let me.

What do you mean "it won’t let you?"

—
Art, photography, shareware, polyamory, literature, kink: all at http://www.xeromag.com/franklin.html

On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 06:15:41 -0700, "detap" wrote:

Hi I have a wedding cd slideshow that a photographer made of the wedding and I need to make copies of some pictures, but it won’t let me. Can some one tell me how to decode this cd so I can do this? The file type is in MOV thanks [[pat]]

If it’s a professional photographer who took the originals, he or she will make copies, for a fee, for you. The images are the photographer’s property, which often surprizes wedding parties, and the photographer prefers to be paid for copies.

That said, Try capturing some of the images to the clipboard as they flow past and then sharpening them up.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
email: (strip the .invalid to email)

When people hire me to photograph I always give them the originals.

"detap" wrote in message

deprive my ass I have sent at lest two of his kid to collage with what I have paid him

"Tony Cooper" wrote in message

On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 06:15:41 -0700, "detap" wrote:

Hi I have a wedding cd slideshow that a photographer made of the

wedding

and

I need to make copies of some pictures, but it won’t let me. Can some

one

tell me how to decode this cd so I can do this? The file type is in MOV thanks [[pat]]

Just write the photographer a short note starting out "I would like to deprive you of your income as a professional by making my own extra copies of your work" I’m sure he’ll get right back to you.

—

Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL

ho ho ho that’s just too funny

"Tony Cooper" wrote in message

On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 08:12:41 -0700, "detap" wrote:

deprive my ass I have sent at lest two of his kid to collage with what I have paid him

If you can’t afford a professional, buy a Brownie.

"Tony Cooper" wrote in message

On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 06:15:41 -0700, "detap" wrote:

Hi I have a wedding cd slideshow that a photographer made of the

wedding

and

I need to make copies of some pictures, but it won’t let me. Can some

one

tell me how to decode this cd so I can do this? The file type is in

MOV

thanks [[pat]]

Just write the photographer a short note starting out "I would like to deprive you of your income as a professional by making my own extra copies of your work" I’m sure he’ll get right back to you.

—

Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL

—

Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL

bite me

"Gormless" wrote in message

"detap" wrote in message

deprive my ass I have sent at lest two of his kid to collage with what I have paid him

I wonder how you manage to earn enough to do that when you cannot spell ‘least’ or ‘college’, don’t know that ‘someone’ is one word, and cannot manage the plural of ‘kid’?
(Let’s not venture into the area of punctuation)
If you paid the guy properly for his pictures instead of attempting to

steal

them then it could be that three of his kids might have been able to go to college.

"detap" wrote in message

bite me

And marvellously eloquent too.
Get back down your cave.

"Gormless" wrote in message

Gormless wrote:

I wonder how you manage to earn enough to do that when you cannot spell ‘least’ or ‘college’, don’t know that ‘someone’ is one word, and cannot manage the plural of ‘kid’?
(Let’s not venture into the area of punctuation)
If you paid the guy properly for his pictures instead of attempting to steal them then it could be that three of his kids might have been able to go to college.

Your picking on a post’s grammar and spelling leads me to believe you have nothing to say towards it’s content.

Back to the subject.

Maybe the Photographer told his customer, you’ll get a CD to view the pictures, but the content is encoded in such a way that you can’t make copies. You’ll have to pay me for copies, on top of my $150 fee. That’s what an honest pro would say.

But maybe he didn’t. Maybe he’s one of those thugs (I’ve met one myself) who merely says, yeah, for $150 I’ll be there at the wedding and make a thousand snaps, and I’ll give you a CD. Period. And then he chuckles when the poor misled customer finds out he can’t do anything with the CD and has to bleed more to get copies.

It would be interesting to find out what has really happened here.

—
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http://hothaus.de/greg-tour/

Greg that’s just about the exact content of what happened . Sounds like you have had this kind of experience thanks for your under standing [[pat]]

"Greg N." wrote in message

Gormless wrote:

I wonder how you manage to earn enough to do that when you cannot spell ‘least’ or ‘college’, don’t know that ‘someone’ is one word, and cannot manage the plural of ‘kid’?
(Let’s not venture into the area of punctuation)
If you paid the guy properly for his pictures instead of attempting to

steal

them then it could be that three of his kids might have been able to go

to

college.

Your picking on a post’s grammar and spelling leads me to believe you have nothing to say towards it’s content.

Back to the subject.

Maybe the Photographer told his customer, you’ll get a CD to view the pictures, but the content is encoded in such a way that you can’t make copies. You’ll have to pay me for copies, on top of my $150 fee. That’s what an honest pro would say.

But maybe he didn’t. Maybe he’s one of those thugs (I’ve met one myself) who merely says, yeah, for $150 I’ll be there at the wedding and make a thousand snaps, and I’ll give you a CD. Period. And then he chuckles when the poor misled customer finds out he can’t do anything with the CD and has to bleed more to get copies.

It would be interesting to find out what has really happened here.
—
Gregor’s Motorradreisen:
http://hothaus.de/greg-tour/

talk about grammar!!! (get back down your cave) now that good grammar!!!!!

"Gormless" wrote in message

"detap" wrote in message

bite me

And marvellously eloquent too.
Get back down your cave.

"Gormless" wrote in message

"Greg N." wrote in message

Maybe the Photographer told his customer, you’ll get a CD to view the pictures, but the content is encoded in such a way that you can’t make copies. You’ll have to pay me for copies, on top of my $150 fee. That’s what an honest pro would say.
—
Gregor’s Motorradreisen

Yep, I bet that this is the scenario. The disc is probably a pdf or some format that the OP doesn’t know about.

"detap" wrote in message

Greg that’s just about the exact content of what happened . Sounds like

you

have had this kind of experience thanks for your under standing [[pat]]

That’s because it’s the way any pro photographer would do it. And what you’re telling us is that you’re trying to bypass the process, and the payment?

"detap" wrote in message

talk about grammar!!! (get back down your cave) now that good grammar!!!!!

Now that good grammar, did you say?
Don’t the apostrophe and s work on your keyboard?

"detap" wrote in message

Greg that’s just about the exact content of what happened . Sounds like you
have had this kind of experience thanks for your under standing [[pat]]

"Greg N." wrote in message

Gormless wrote:

I wonder how you manage to earn enough to do that when you cannot spell ‘least’ or ‘college’, don’t know that ‘someone’ is one word, and cannot manage the plural of ‘kid’?
(Let’s not venture into the area of punctuation)
If you paid the guy properly for his pictures instead of attempting to

steal

them then it could be that three of his kids might have been able to go

to

college.

Your picking on a post’s grammar and spelling leads me to believe you have nothing to say towards it’s content.

Back to the subject.

Maybe the Photographer told his customer, you’ll get a CD to view the pictures, but the content is encoded in such a way that you can’t make copies. You’ll have to pay me for copies, on top of my $150 fee. That’s what an honest pro would say.

But maybe he didn’t. Maybe he’s one of those thugs (I’ve met one myself) who merely says, yeah, for $150 I’ll be there at the wedding and make a thousand snaps, and I’ll give you a CD. Period. And then he chuckles when the poor misled customer finds out he can’t do anything with the CD and has to bleed more to get copies.

It would be interesting to find out what has really happened here.
—
Gregor’s Motorradreisen:
http://hothaus.de/greg-tour/

If that really happened you can go to small claims court. You most likely have a written contract or invoice stating what you get for how much. Did you look at they guy’s reputation before you hired him? ask for references?

If you are trying to steal his work then you have gotten what you deserve, to be called a cheapskate. As many of us here make our livings selling photography you can see why your request could cause some animosity.

Top posting is frowned upon in these parts too. I’m sure you will hear about that too.

On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 12:26:06 +0200, "Greg N." wrote:

Gormless wrote:

I wonder how you manage to earn enough to do that when you cannot spell ‘least’ or ‘college’, don’t know that ‘someone’ is one word, and cannot manage the plural of ‘kid’?
(Let’s not venture into the area of punctuation)
If you paid the guy properly for his pictures instead of attempting to steal them then it could be that three of his kids might have been able to go to college.

Your picking on a post’s grammar and spelling leads me to believe you have nothing to say towards it’s content.

Back to the subject.

Maybe the Photographer told his customer, you’ll get a CD to view the pictures, but the content is encoded in such a way that you can’t make copies. You’ll have to pay me for copies, on top of my $150 fee. That’s what an honest pro would say.

Shouldn’t have to. That’s simply the way it goes with wedding photos, portraits and all such work.

But maybe he didn’t. Maybe he’s one of those thugs (I’ve met one myself) who merely says, yeah, for $150 I’ll be there at the wedding and make a thousand snaps, and I’ll give you a CD. Period.

That’s the usual way of business for professional photographers.

And then he chuckles
when the poor misled customer finds out he can’t do anything with the CD and has to bleed more to get copies.

No, he sighs because he’s got another stupid customer fight on his hands.

It would be interesting to find out what has really happened here.

Sigh.

Next time you hire a photographer, write up a contract specifying that you get all the prints promised, all the negatives, and all rights to all the work. That simple.

Oh, yeah, another point. Don’t _ever_ commission a work of art like an oil portrait without the same understanding.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
email: (strip the .invalid to email)

On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 06:15:41 -0700, "detap" wrote:

Hi I have a wedding cd slideshow that a photographer made of the wedding and I need to make copies of some pictures, but it won’t let me. Can some one tell me how to decode this cd so I can do this? The file type is in MOV thanks [[pat]]

The .MOV file type indicates that the file contains a Quicktime movie. This format is aimed mainly at showing moving images and is not a good starting point for printing. It is possible to capture frames from the ..MOV file, but since the file is aimed at display on a monotor, there are not enough pixels there for a good print image.

On a PC, Quicktime uses the "DirectX" interface to the video driver. It does this to obtain adequate performance for moving images. One of the byproducts of using DirectX is that "normal" methods of screen capture (Shift-Print Scrn) will usually not work correctly. There are some third party products available that allow you to capture DirectX images.

In any case, if you want a good print image, you aren’t going to get it using a .MOV file as a starting point.

As others have pointed out, photographers do not customarily provide film negatives (or the digital equivalent) to their customers. Charging for prints is one of the ways photographers make money.

Leonard

Cyli wrote:

Maybe he’s one of those thugs (I’ve met one myself)
who merely says, yeah, for $150 I’ll be there at the wedding and make a thousand snaps, and I’ll give you a CD. Period.

That’s the usual way of business for professional photographers.

Maybe.

Nonetheless, I perceive him entirely unfair to assume I know "the way it goes" in his trade. I have hired a pro photographer once in my life, at my daughter’s wedding, and I’m not likely to hire one ever again. How should I know "the usual way"?

This guy knew quite well what kind of expectation he triggered when he promised me a CD with all the photos. He assumed (quite rightly) that I did _not_ know the ususal way of business and took advantage of that like a used car sales man.

We’re not discussing legal or contractual matters here, those are likely quite clear. I’m pretty sure the fact that my expectations weren’t going to be met were in the fine print somewhere.

Still, telling me "you get a CD" without further explanation is a very calculated move to mislead me, and you know that. Are you in the trade, too?

—
Gregor’s Motorradreisen:
http://hothaus.de/greg-tour/

On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:56:14 +0200, "Greg N." scribbled:

Cyli wrote:

Maybe he’s one of those thugs (I’ve met one myself)
who merely says, yeah, for $150 I’ll be there at the wedding and make a thousand snaps, and I’ll give you a CD. Period.

That’s the usual way of business for professional photographers.

Maybe.

Nonetheless, I perceive him entirely unfair to assume I know "the way it goes" in his trade. I have hired a pro photographer once in my life, at my daughter’s wedding, and I’m not likely to hire one ever again. How should I know "the usual way"?

This guy knew quite well what kind of expectation he triggered when he promised me a CD with all the photos. He assumed (quite rightly) that I did _not_ know the ususal way of business and took advantage of that like a used car sales man.

We’re not discussing legal or contractual matters here, those are likely quite clear. I’m pretty sure the fact that my expectations weren’t going to be met were in the fine print somewhere.

Still, telling me "you get a CD" without further explanation is a very calculated move to mislead me, and you know that. Are you in the trade, too?

"What comes on the CD?"

"What does that include?"

"Do I get prints and/or negatives?"

Wow, really hard questions to ask… You weren’t misled, you were a dumbass who failed to ask simple questions. You probably pay more attention to your groceries than you did to such an important part of a very important moment.

Still, telling me "you get a CD" without further explanation is a very calculated move to mislead me, and you know that. Are you in the trade, too?

"What comes on the CD?"

"What does that include?"

"Do I get prints and/or negatives?"

Wow, really hard questions to ask… You weren’t misled,

That’s bullshit. Of course he was misled. If you hire a photographer, it’s a reasonable expectation to think that if he said "you get a cd" that it would be full of your pictures for your use, pictures that aren’t encrypted or password protected. What other reason would one include a CD if he can’t use the photos on it? Ridiculous.

It’d be like buying a car, and the salesman says "You get keys with that". Lo and behold, the keys won’t start your car. "Oh, you wanted key for YOUR car!!?!?! You should have mentioned that!!!"

On 24 Oct 2005 06:20:58 -0700, "Larry Bud"
scribbled:

Still, telling me "you get a CD" without further explanation is a very calculated move to mislead me, and you know that. Are you in the trade, too?

"What comes on the CD?"

"What does that include?"

"Do I get prints and/or negatives?"

Wow, really hard questions to ask… You weren’t misled,

That’s bullshit. Of course he was misled. If you hire a

No, he wasn’t.

photographer, it’s a reasonable expectation to think that if he said "you get a cd" that it would be full of your pictures for your use,

See the very simple questions that should have been asked, above.

pictures that aren’t encrypted or password protected. What other reason would one include a CD if he can’t use the photos on it?

He can use them. He can play the MOV file, he can pause the MOV file, he can zoom in or out, he can even make copies of the CD. If he’d wanted copies of the photos in print or printable format he should have read the contract and/or asked those simple questions.

Ridiculous.

It’d be like buying a car, and the salesman says "You get keys with that". Lo and behold, the keys won’t start your car. "Oh, you wanted key for YOUR car!!?!?! You should have mentioned that!!!"

Speaking of ridiculous…. If you want to use a car as an analogy, it’s more like ordering a car with a CD player and then bitching because you were too stupid to ask if that included speakers.

On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:56:14 +0200, "Greg N." wrote:

Cyli wrote:

Maybe he’s one of those thugs (I’ve met one myself)
who merely says, yeah, for $150 I’ll be there at the wedding and make a thousand snaps, and I’ll give you a CD. Period.

That’s the usual way of business for professional photographers.

Maybe.

Nonetheless, I perceive him entirely unfair to assume I know "the way it goes" in his trade. I have hired a pro photographer once in my life, at my daughter’s wedding, and I’m not likely to hire one ever again. How should I know "the usual way"?

Because they present you with a contract or agreement that spells out what they will charge and what you get for your basic fee. If you didn’t read the agreement, or didn’t pay attention when he explained the agreement, that’s hardly his fault.

This guy knew quite well what kind of expectation he triggered when he promised me a CD with all the photos. He assumed (quite rightly) that I did _not_ know the ususal way of business and took advantage of that like a used car sales man.

We’re not discussing legal or contractual matters here, those are likely quite clear. I’m pretty sure the fact that my expectations weren’t going to be met were in the fine print somewhere.

Still, telling me "you get a CD" without further explanation is a very calculated move to mislead me, and you know that. Are you in the trade, too?

My guess is that what he really said was "You get a CD that shows the pictures that you can order" and you just didn’t pay attention. The photographer that did my daughter’s wedding made it quite clear what was included in the basic package, and what I would be charged extra for.

Even the school photographer sends out proofs with "PROOF" stamped on the image so you can’t scan his efforts and make a zillion copies.

Stores that have those machines that copy photographs have a notice posted that you are not allowed to make copies of professional photographer’s prints. Store clerks will reject them.

—

Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL

Voivod wrote:

Speaking of ridiculous…. If you want to use a car as an analogy, it’s more like ordering a car with a CD player and then bitching because you were too stupid to ask if that included speakers.

Hey that’s a very good analogy. So you’re saying a sales thug who lets his customer order a car "featuring" a CD player, without telling the customer he needs to order speakers, too, is acting perfectly honest, while the customer is "too stupid"?

That’s how they mong horses in Voivodina, maybe :))

—
Gregor’s Motorradreisen:
http://hothaus.de/greg-tour/

"Larry Bud" wrote in message

That’s bullshit. Of course he was misled. If you hire a photographer, it’s a reasonable expectation to think that if he said "you get a cd" that it would be full of your pictures for your use, pictures that aren’t encrypted or password protected. What other reason would one include a CD if he can’t use the photos on it? Ridiculous.

It’d be like buying a car, and the salesman says "You get keys with that". Lo and behold, the keys won’t start your car. "Oh, you wanted key for YOUR car!!?!?! You should have mentioned that!!!"

It was probably a "review"cd, for him to pick the photo’s he wanted before the photographer did anything else with them. The op was just trying to do "extra" with them.

On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 18:16:56 +0200, "Greg N." scribbled:

Voivod wrote:

Speaking of ridiculous…. If you want to use a car as an analogy, it’s more like ordering a car with a CD player and then bitching because you were too stupid to ask if that included speakers.

Hey that’s a very good analogy. So you’re saying a sales thug who lets his customer order a car "featuring" a CD player, without telling the customer he needs to order speakers, too, is acting perfectly honest, while the customer is "too stupid"?

Right, you made an important purchase and failed to read the contract that didn’t include speakers. Your loss and not the salesman’s fault. Stop trying to blame your stupidity on others, take some responsibility for your actions.

"Voivod" wrote in message

Stop trying to blame your stupidity on others, take some >responsibility for your actions.

Pot, Kettle & Black all spring to mind at once for some reason!

On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 18:16:56 +0200, "Greg N." wrote:

Voivod wrote:

Speaking of ridiculous…. If you want to use a car as an analogy, it’s more like ordering a car with a CD player and then bitching because you were too stupid to ask if that included speakers.

Hey that’s a very good analogy. So you’re saying a sales thug who lets his customer order a car "featuring" a CD player, without telling the customer he needs to order speakers, too, is acting perfectly honest, while the customer is "too stupid"?

I’d call that a bad analogy. It’d be more like selling someone a car with a cd player and not telling them that no cd’s were included. If the purchaser knew nothing about cd’s, that could be seen by him / her as fraudulent. By the people in the world who know how cd’s and players work, the customer would be foolish to expect any cd’s to be included.

That’s how they mong horses in Voivodina, maybe :))

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
email: (strip the .invalid to email)

It was probably a "review"cd, for him to pick the photo’s he wanted before the photographer did anything else with them. The op was just trying to do "extra" with them.

You are assuming it was a "review" cd and that the OP was told he would only receive a "review" cd and that he would have to pay additional money for either
prints or a cd with files he would be able to make his own prints from.

As others have pointed out, photographers do not customarily provide film negatives (or the digital equivalent) to their customers. Charging for prints is one of the ways photographers make money.

Actually, my daughter and future son-in-law were told by their photographer that they will receive a cd with all the image files and that the files will be capable
of making prints. (And yes, my future son-in-law knows what type of files to expect as he is a professional that works for the AP and several local
newspapers.)

"Steven Wandy" wrote in message

It was probably a "review"cd, for him to pick the photo’s he wanted

before

the photographer did anything else with them. The op was just trying to

do

"extra" with them.

You are assuming it was a "review" cd and that the OP was told he would

only

receive a "review" cd and that he would have to pay additional money for either
prints or a cd with files he would be able to make his own prints from.

No shit! That’s exactly what I was doing!! And I bet I’m right.

Cyli wrote:

I’d call that a bad analogy. It’d be more like selling someone a car with a cd player and not telling them that no cd’s were included. If the purchaser knew nothing about cd’s, that could be seen by him / her as fraudulent. By the people in the world who know how cd’s and players work, the customer would be foolish to expect any cd’s to be included.

I suppose it all comes down to convention within the industry-

Ergo, someone uninformed about particular conventions may be caught out. Questions and communication, as ever, is key.

—
Stuart Brown
http://www.edesign.cc

On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 22:15:03 +0100, "Harry Limey" <harrylimey(at)Lycos.co.uk> scribbled:

"Voivod" wrote in message

Stop trying to blame your stupidity on others, take some >responsibility for your actions.

Pot, Kettle & Black all spring to mind at once for some reason!

I’ve never not taken responsibility for my own actions. Do you even know what a PKB is?