Resizing Photo Question

SW
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Steven Wandy
Nov 8, 2005
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My daughter just got married this past weekend and I am making up a CDR for some friends and relatives of some of the pictures that I took. I wish to have the files resized so that they can go to Costco/Walmart/etc. and make 4×6 prints without any hassles.
When I make my own prints, I use PSCS2 and crop the images to 4×6 but then print them myself by either telling PS to resize the image in the printer driver or use Qimage.
(1) I am not sure if my cropping to 4×6 is what Walmart, etc. would need or do I have to resize the images also?
(2) If I should resize them, to what DPI for these types of services? Thanks for any help,
Steve

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Avery
Nov 8, 2005
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 00:47:49 GMT, "Steven Wandy" wrote:

My daughter just got married this past weekend and I am making up a CDR for some friends and relatives of some of the pictures that I took. I wish to have the files resized so that they can go to Costco/Walmart/etc. and make 4×6 prints without any hassles.
When I make my own prints, I use PSCS2 and crop the images to 4×6 but then print them myself by either telling PS to resize the image in the printer driver or use Qimage.
(1) I am not sure if my cropping to 4×6 is what Walmart, etc. would need or do I have to resize the images also?
(2) If I should resize them, to what DPI for these types of services? Thanks for any help,
Steve

I really have no idea what Costco/Walmart require to properly print your images – I would sugget you ask them, but then their operators probably would have no idea.

I do, however wonder what you are doing cropping your images to achieve the size you want. When you crop an image you throw away all the pixels in the part that was cropped out. The bit that is left still has the same resolution but the question is " Why didn’t you get closer to the subject and frame the photo properly in the first place?"

Lets say that that your chosen printing organistaion "Costmart" requires images at 300 ppi. Let’s further assume that you have a digital camera of modest performance that produces an image of dimensions 2400 x 1800 pixels. That means that you would be able to produce a top quality print at 8 x 6 inches at 300ppi. If you use Photoshop to crop your 72 ppi screen image to 6 x 4, you will have an image of 432 x 288 pixels, not enough to produce a 1" square print.

When you crop your photos to 6 x 4 , what ppi are you setting?? If you have already cropped to 6 x 4 why are you letting the printer driver or Qimage resize them?

The bottom line is NEVER THROW AWAY PIXELS unless you really need to. Software like Qimage , despite the claims, cannot reproduce the detail that has been lost. Why would you use an excellent program like Photoshop CS2 to get rid of details and then try and recreate it with some other software?

I guess my suggestion is that you give "Costmart" the full size image out of your camera. At least then, if the prints come at really crappy, you can blame them.
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Voivod
Nov 8, 2005
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 00:47:49 GMT, "Steven Wandy" scribbled:

My daughter just got married this past weekend and I am making up a CDR for some friends and relatives of some of the pictures that I took. I wish to have the files resized so that they can go to Costco/Walmart/etc. and make 4×6 prints without any hassles.
When I make my own prints, I use PSCS2 and crop the images to 4×6 but then print them myself by either telling PS to resize the image in the printer driver or use Qimage.
(1) I am not sure if my cropping to 4×6 is what Walmart, etc. would need or do I have to resize the images also?
(2) If I should resize them, to what DPI for these types of services?

There’s absolutely no reason to crop to resize. The only reason to crop is to remove parts of the image you don’t want printed. I’ve used Walmart before for family photo stuff and other than a slight tendancy to add too much blue (yay Fuji/Bluji processing!) they do a fairly good job of processing. They don’t care what size the images are as long as they’re less than 3 (or 5, it’s been a long while since I’ve been to their site and it’s closed right now) megs in size.

Download pictures from camera -> Upload pictures to Walmart -> Order Prints. It doesn’t get any easier.
SW
Steven Wandy
Nov 8, 2005
I do, however wonder what you are doing cropping your images to achieve the size you want. When you crop an image you throw away all the pixels in the part that was cropped out. The bit that is left still has the same resolution but the question is " Why didn’t you get closer to the subject and frame the photo properly in the first place?"
Maybe because the native dimensions of the images I get out of this particular camera
(Canon SD550) is not 4×6 and if the people who receive CD give these files to where ever, that store/lab will do the cropping and basically just use the center
of the image which may or may not be what I would have prefered. That is the purpose of the cropping.
SW
Steven Wandy
Nov 8, 2005
There’s absolutely no reason to crop to resize.

But if the dimensions of the original image files (from a Canon SD550 ) are not
already some multiple of 4×6 (which they aren’t), won’t Walmart/Costco/local lab
have to crop the images anyway to print them out as 4×6 prints?
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Voivod
Nov 8, 2005
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 17:09:21 GMT, "Steven Wandy" scribbled:

There’s absolutely no reason to crop to resize.

But if the dimensions of the original image files (from a Canon SD550 ) are not already some multiple of 4×6 (which they aren’t), won’t Walmart/Costco/local lab have to crop the images anyway to print them out as 4×6 prints?

How far off are they? My Kodak only adds a minuscule amount that the processor will crop. I’ve never noticed any real oddball images letting them deal with the image dimensions. Is the work of cropping every single picture really worth the effort is what you need to ask. But hell at .12 a print it would be easier just to experiment with a few to see the results instead of editing all the pics beforehand.
SW
Steven Wandy
Nov 8, 2005
There is a significant amount of area that if only the center of the image is used (and from
what I have read, this is what these places do) it won’t be what I envisioned.
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Voivod
Nov 8, 2005
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 19:03:19 GMT, "Steven Wandy" scribbled:

There is a significant amount of area that if only the center of the image is used (and from
what I have read, this is what these places do) it won’t be what I envisioned.

Allow me to repeat myself:

"But hell at .12 a print it would be easier just to experiment with a few to see the results instead of editing all the pics beforehand."
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Avery
Nov 9, 2005
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 17:07:25 GMT, "Steven Wandy" wrote:

I do, however wonder what you are doing cropping your images to achieve the size you want. When you crop an image you throw away all the pixels in the part that was cropped out. The bit that is left still has the same resolution but the question is " Why didn’t you get closer to the subject and frame the photo properly in the first place?"
Maybe because the native dimensions of the images I get out of this particular camera
(Canon SD550) is not 4×6 and if the people who receive CD give these files to where ever, that store/lab will do the cropping and basically just use the center
of the image which may or may not be what I would have prefered. That is the purpose of the cropping.
The Canon SD550 is an excellent camera. At max reolution it takes a photo with dimensions 3072 x 2304 pixels. Plenty of data for quite large prints. If you want to downsize for smaller prints, use PS CS 2 to resample it down to a smaller dimension at, say, 300ppi. You will get a much better print than cropping down to 6 x 4

I would guess that that is what the commercial processors would do anyway.
SW
Steven Wandy
Nov 9, 2005
Allow me to repeat myself:

"But hell at .12 a print it would be easier just to experiment with a few to see the results instead of editing all the pics beforehand."
Allow me to repeat MYSELF: I am not taking the prints to a lab. These CD’s are for some people who don’t know from printing/cropping/etc. and I want them to have a little hassle as possible. I don’t mind taking the extra time to do the cropping/resizing for them.
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Voivod
Nov 9, 2005
On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 15:42:06 GMT, "Steven Wandy" scribbled:

Allow me to repeat myself:

"But hell at .12 a print it would be easier just to experiment with a few to see the results instead of editing all the pics beforehand."
Allow me to repeat MYSELF: I am not taking the prints to a lab. These CD’s are for some people who don’t know from printing/cropping/etc. and I want them to have a little hassle as possible. I don’t mind taking the extra time to do the cropping/resizing for them.

Ok, we’ve established that you’re a moron who’d rather do things the hard way instead of doing a simple, cheap, experiment to determine WHAT the processing lab would do with the images. Brilliant! Do you rebuild you car’s engine every time it needs an oil change?

(1) I am not sure if my cropping to 4×6 is what Walmart, etc. would need or do I have to resize the images also?

Send a couple pictures TO Walmart and FIND OUT.

(2) If I should resize them, to what DPI for these types of services?

Send a couple pictures TO Walmart and FIND OUT.

Fucking idiot.
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systmster
Nov 9, 2005
Steven,

This is what I do…

I crop out the least amount of the image so that the size is a mutiple of 4×6 (ignoring the DPI or pixels for now). So you shave some off the left and the top.
Get the picture the way you want it but leaving the most amount of data possible.
Then submitt that to your photo processing site or to your CD’s and they will not need to crop it because it is the correct ratio…

Phil

Steven Wandy wrote:
Allow me to repeat myself:

"But hell at .12 a print it would be easier just to experiment with a few to see the results instead of editing all the pics beforehand."

Allow me to repeat MYSELF: I am not taking the prints to a lab. These CD’s are for some people who don’t know from printing/cropping/etc. and I want them to have a little hassle as possible. I don’t mind taking the extra time to do the cropping/resizing for them.

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Cyli
Nov 10, 2005
On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 15:42:06 GMT, "Steven Wandy" wrote:

Allow me to repeat myself:

"But hell at .12 a print it would be easier just to experiment with a few to see the results instead of editing all the pics beforehand."
Allow me to repeat MYSELF: I am not taking the prints to a lab. These CD’s are for some people who don’t know from printing/cropping/etc. and I want them to have a little hassle as possible. I don’t mind taking the extra time to do the cropping/resizing for them.

Then the people you send them to will be sending them to a lab. Yes, all photo places, like WalMart, use a ‘lab’.

So if you want to see what they’ll get, spend a dollar and make some trials of it.

Cyli
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SW
Steven Wandy
Nov 11, 2005
Ok, we’ve established that you’re a moron who’d rather do things the hard way instead of doing a simple, cheap, experiment to determine WHAT the processing lab would do with the images.

OK, and we have determined that you are a HUGE FUCKING ASSHOLE who does not know when to keep his hole shut!!!!

Send a couple pictures TO Walmart and FIND OUT.

I don’t need Walmart. Your pee-brain would realize it if you took the time to read
the original post.

Fucking idiot.
Ever hear of the old expression "it takes one to know one"???
SW
Steven Wandy
Nov 11, 2005
Then the people you send them to will be sending them to a lab. Yes, all photo places, like WalMart, use a ‘lab’.
I realize this. I have no interest in going to Walmart or any other lab. Why did a relatively simple question about the proper way to crop/resize an image get these types of "helpful" answers???
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Voivod
Nov 11, 2005
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 00:09:54 GMT, "Steven Wandy" scribbled:

Ok, we’ve established that you’re a moron who’d rather do things the hard way instead of doing a simple, cheap, experiment to determine WHAT the processing lab would do with the images.

OK, and we have determined that you are a HUGE FUCKING ASSHOLE who does not know when to keep his hole shut!!!!

Such anger…. careful or you’ll blow an embolism….

Send a couple pictures TO Walmart and FIND OUT.

I don’t need Walmart. Your pee-brain would realize it if you took the time to read the original post.

Did you or did you NOT say (I noticed that you conveniently snipped these from your response):

"(1) I am not sure if my cropping to 4×6 is what Walmart, etc. would need or do I have to resize the images also?
(2) If I should resize them, to what DPI for these types of services?"

My answer, once again, stands. If you want to find out WHAT these ‘services’ DO regarding cropping/resizing try USING THEM, shit-for-brains.

Fucking idiot.
Ever hear of the old expression "it takes one to know one"???

Yeah, it usually comes from unimaginative imbeciles who lack the mental capacity to come up with anything better.
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Voivod
Nov 11, 2005
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 00:11:38 GMT, "Steven Wandy" scribbled:

Then the people you send them to will be sending them to a lab. Yes, all photo places, like WalMart, use a ‘lab’.
I realize this. I have no interest in going to Walmart or any other lab. Why did a relatively simple question about the proper way to crop/resize an image get these types of "helpful" answers???

Because you wanted to know what you needed to do so the people (shitheads like you I’m sure) you’re making CDs for can print them at various places like Walmart and the best way, as has been pointed out numerous times, is to TRY the services to see WHAT they do with an unaltered image and go from there. But you’re too fucking dense to grasp that you might not have to do ANYTHING to the images to get decent prints.
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Bill Newton
Nov 11, 2005
"Voivod" wrote in message

Because you wanted to know what you needed to do so the people (shitheads like you I’m sure) you’re making CDs for can print them at various places like Walmart and the best way, as has been pointed out numerous times, is to TRY the services to see WHAT they do with an unaltered image and go from there. But you’re too fucking dense to grasp that you might not have to do ANYTHING to the images to get decent prints.

Dearie me Voivod, this is at least the fifth time you’ve responded to comments in this thread, and the juvenile invective you feel it necessary to include in your postings strongly suggest that you are a very sad and insecure person.

I suspect that you are totally bald. Likely caused by you tearing your hair out almost every time that somebody seeks advice from this Newsgroup. I also suspect that your fingernails are chewed down to your elbows, and that you suffer from chronic indigestion which unfortunately generates a permanently turned down mouth which in turn does nothing at all for your shifty, maybe even cross eyes.

Take my advice, Learn to relax, go with the flow, be a nice person, respond with pleasant advice, or don’t respond at all, grow some hair, believe that fingers long to have nails, pucker those lips upwards, look folk straight in the eye. (hope that’s possible) Do all of these things and your chronic indigestion will magically cease to be.

Know what I mean?

Bill Newton.
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Mike Russell
Nov 11, 2005
"Bill Newton" wrote in message news:dl22js$8m1 ….
[re vovoid]
Know what I mean?

Bill, If you don’t quote him, I and many others won’t have to read him. —

Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com
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Marsupilami
Nov 11, 2005
Dearie me Voivod, this is at least the fifth time you’ve responded to comments in this thread, and the juvenile invective you feel it necessary to include in your postings strongly suggest that you are a very sad and insecure person.

I suspect that you are totally bald. Likely caused by you tearing your hair out almost every time that somebody seeks advice from this Newsgroup. I also suspect that your fingernails are chewed down to your elbows, and that you suffer from chronic indigestion which unfortunately generates a permanently turned down mouth which in turn does nothing at all for your shifty, maybe even cross eyes.
Take my advice, Learn to relax, go with the flow, be a nice person, respond with pleasant advice, or don’t respond at all, grow some hair, believe that fingers long to have nails, pucker those lips upwards, look folk straight in the eye. (hope that’s possible) Do all of these things and your chronic indigestion will magically cease to be.
Know what I mean?

Bill Newton.

How easy it feel to be psychoanalist only by reading answers, no need to invest in long long studies, no need to think, no need to be intelligent (uh, as a REAL one?).
Open now a consulting room, earn money and let Voivod answer to what he wants to
only for the times that his answers are more valuable than yours.

Q: is this name (voivod) has anything to do with the band? Don’t care this helps.


Houba, houba !

Marsupilami
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Rick
Nov 11, 2005
In message , Voivod
writes
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 17:09:21 GMT, "Steven Wandy" scribbled:

There’s absolutely no reason to crop to resize.

But if the dimensions of the original image files (from a Canon SD550 ) are not already some multiple of 4×6 (which they aren’t), won’t Walmart/Costco/local
lab have to crop the images anyway to print them out as 4×6 prints?

How far off are they?
Some cameras have an aspect ratio of 3:2 others 4:3, that is probably the difference in this case.


Timothy
BN
Bill Newton
Nov 11, 2005
"Mike Russell" wrote in message
news:J21df.15198>

Bill, If you don’t quote him, I and many others won’t have to read him.

I know what you mean Mike, however I felt it necessary to quote Voivod in order to illustrate my comment. Sorry if you had to read through his banal foul mouthed remarks, but on the plus side I guess you agree with the point of view I was expressing.

Regards.

Bill Newton
SW
Steven Wandy
Nov 11, 2005
Fucking idiot.
Ever hear of the old expression "it takes one to know one"???

Yeah, it usually comes from unimaginative imbeciles who lack the mental capacity to come up with anything better.
People like yourself I am sure.
SW
Steven Wandy
Nov 11, 2005
I realize this. I have no interest in going to Walmart or any other lab. Why did a relatively simple question about the proper way to crop/resize an image get these types of "helpful" answers???

Because you wanted to know what you needed to do so the people (shitheads like you I’m sure)

Why, in that case I MUST ADD A SHITHEAD LIKE YOURSELF TO MY LIST!!!

But you’re too fucking dense to grasp
that you might not have to do ANYTHING to the images to get decent prints.
And you are too fucking dense to realize that I am trying to save other people time/trouble. Time that I don’t mind spending. But I guess it never occured to that lump of shit that you call a brain to to that for someone else.
BN
Bill Newton
Nov 11, 2005
"Marsupilami" wrote in message
How easy it feel to be psychoanalist only by reading answers, no need to invest in long long studies, no need to think, no need to be intelligent (uh, as a REAL one?).
Open now a consulting room, earn money and let Voivod answer to what he wants to
only for the times that his answers are more valuable than yours.
Q: is this name (voivod) has anything to do with the band? Don’t care this helps.


Houba, houba !

Marsupilami

English cannot possibly be your natural language, even so, having perused your comments carefully, I must confess that you sound like a genuine Voivod supporter.

Beware the men in white coats;-)

Know what I mean

Bill Newton.
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Voivod
Nov 11, 2005
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 12:25:32 +0000 (UTC), "Bill Newton" scribbled:

"Voivod" wrote in message

Because you wanted to know what you needed to do so the people (shitheads like you I’m sure) you’re making CDs for can print them at various places like Walmart and the best way, as has been pointed out numerous times, is to TRY the services to see WHAT they do with an unaltered image and go from there. But you’re too fucking dense to grasp that you might not have to do ANYTHING to the images to get decent prints.

Dearie me Voivod, this is at least the fifth time you’ve responded to comments in this thread, and the juvenile invective you feel it necessary to include in your postings strongly suggest that you are a very sad and insecure person.

AH, amateur psychology. Give a fuckwit Psych-101 and they think they can annalize the world..

I suspect that you are totally bald. Likely caused by you tearing your hair

Four foot long pony-tail, so much for your diagnostic skills.

out almost every time that somebody seeks advice from this Newsgroup. I also suspect that your fingernails are chewed down to your elbows, and that you suffer from chronic indigestion which unfortunately generates a permanently turned down mouth which in turn does nothing at all for your shifty, maybe even cross eyes.

OoOoo and a fake medical doctor too.

Take my advice, Learn to relax, go with the flow, be a nice person, respond

Stuff your advice.

with pleasant advice, or don’t respond at all, grow some hair, believe that fingers long to have nails, pucker those lips upwards, look folk straight in the eye. (hope that’s possible) Do all of these things and your chronic indigestion will magically cease to be.

Know what I mean?

Yeah, you’re an idiot, I knew that already.
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Voivod
Nov 11, 2005
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 17:54:08 GMT, "Steven Wandy" scribbled:

Fucking idiot.
Ever hear of the old expression "it takes one to know one"???

Yeah, it usually comes from unimaginative imbeciles who lack the mental capacity to come up with anything better.
People like yourself I am sure.

Steve, Steve, Stevie… *you* were the unimaginative imbecile who uttered the grammar school lame, not me.

I am however totally amused by your constant removal of your questions regarding Walmart/CostCo type photo printing services. Why is that? Oh, that’s right you can’t admit that actually spending a couple bucks to see the results of the processing of your imagery is a perfectly viable solution…

Here, let me quote it again for you:

Did you or did you NOT say (I noticed that you conveniently snipped these from your response):

"(1) I am not sure if my cropping to 4×6 is what Walmart, etc. would need or do I have to resize the images also?
(2) If I should resize them, to what DPI for these types of services?"

My answer, once again, stands. If you want to find out WHAT these ‘services’ DO regarding cropping/resizing try USING THEM, shit-for-brains.
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Voivod
Nov 11, 2005
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 17:57:56 GMT, "Steven Wandy" scribbled:

I realize this. I have no interest in going to Walmart or any other lab. Why did a relatively simple question about the proper way to crop/resize an image get these types of "helpful" answers???

Because you wanted to know what you needed to do so the people (shitheads like you I’m sure)

Why, in that case I MUST ADD A SHITHEAD LIKE YOURSELF TO MY LIST!!!

You’ve got a list? What is it? "People who are more logical than me"?

But you’re too fucking dense to grasp
that you might not have to do ANYTHING to the images to get decent prints.
And you are too fucking dense to realize that I am trying to save other people time/trouble. Time that I don’t mind spending. But I guess it never occured to that lump of shit that you call a brain to to that for someone else.

Time you might not have to spend. Time in which you could have already uploaded several pictures to one of the services and had them shipped to your house or picked them up from a local store already. All this anger and argument and yet you still fail to see that the best possible way to know what you need to do for your friends who may use these types of services is to…. yes, you probably didn’t guess this, USE THEM YOURSELF and see the results.

In the time you’ve wasted being an imbecile, snipping my completely logical approach and frothing at the mouth you could have answered your own question for a DOLLAR worth of photo processing.

Have a NICE day, Stevie.
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Marsupilami
Nov 11, 2005
English cannot possibly be your natural language, even so, having perused your comments carefully, I must confess that you sound like a genuine Voivod supporter.

Beware the men in white coats;-)

Know what I mean

Bill Newton.

English sure not my native language and no I don’t know what you mean. And I’M NOT A SUPPORTER (I have a brain)
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DD
Nov 11, 2005
"Bill Newton frowning at Marsupilami"
English cannot possibly be your natural language,

Know what I mean

Bill Newton.

In the very near future, this will be no problem at all, Bill. The European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the European Union rather than German, which was the other possibility.

As part of the negotiations, the British Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a 5- year phase-in plan that would become known as "Euro-English".

In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c". Sertainly, this will make the sivil servants jump with joy.

The hard "c" will be dropped in favour of "k". This should klear up konfusion, and keyboards kan have one less letter.

There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced with "f". This will make words like fotograf 20% shorter.

In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible.

Governments will enkourage the removal of double letters which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling.

Also, al wil agre that the horibl mes of the silent "e" in the languag is disgrasful and it should go away, as should the unesesary “a” in words kontaining “ea”.

By the 4th yer people wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" with "z" and "w" with "v".

During ze fifz yer, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou" and after ziz fifz yer, ve vil hav a reil sensi bl riten styl.

Zer vil be no mor trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu understand ech oza. Ze drem of a united urop vil finali kum tru.

Und after ze fifz yer, ve vil al be speking German like zey vunted in ze forst plas.

If zis mad you smil Bill, sam wif oza pepl.

Dave
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Marsupilami
Nov 11, 2005
Bill Newton wrote:
"Marsupilami" wrote in message

English cannot possibly be your natural language, even so, having perused your comments carefully, I must confess that you sound like a genuine Voivod supporter.

Beware the men in white coats;-)

Know what I mean

Bill Newton.

and so…
The next time someone will sound well just by writing every "e" with an accent and pretend it’s French
just to show he jumped the O’level at 17
and doing smart sentences like "merci beaucoup LE France" and think we should applause. I will triple laugh (since that day I used to ignore).
Sorry again that I injured your poor pretty ears.
SW
Steven Wandy
Nov 11, 2005
In the time you’ve wasted being an imbecile,
The first logical thing you have said. I am an imbecile for wasting my time trying to hold any sort of intelligent discourse with you.

Have a NICE day, Stevie.
I will as soon as I learn to IGNORE your posts.
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Voivod
Nov 11, 2005
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:45:48 GMT, "Steven Wandy" scribbled:

I am an imbecile

At least you’re aware of the fact.

Still VERY amused by your deletion of my ever so logical approach to your questions…

Here, just so you don’t miss it again:

Time you might not have to spend. Time in which you could have already uploaded several pictures to one of the services and had them shipped to your house or picked them up from a local store already. All this anger and argument and yet you still fail to see that the best possible way to know what you need to do for your friends who may use these types of services is to…. yes, you probably didn’t guess this, USE THEM YOURSELF and see the results.
MR
Mike Russell
Nov 12, 2005
"DD" wrote in message
….
Und after ze fifz yer, ve vil al be speking German like zey vunted in ze forst plas.

If zis mad you smil Bill, sam wif oza pepl.

LOL – good one DD.


Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com
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SCRUFF
Nov 12, 2005
"Steven Wandy" wrote in message
In the time you’ve wasted being an imbecile,
The first logical thing you have said. I am an imbecile for wasting my time trying to hold any sort of intelligent discourse with you.
Have a NICE day, Stevie.
I will as soon as I learn to IGNORE your posts.
Have you actually received the proper advice to your original question about 4 x 6 prints yet?
TC
tony cooper
Nov 12, 2005
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 08:17:35 GMT, Avery wrote:

I do, however wonder what you are doing cropping your images to achieve the size you want. When you crop an image you throw away all the pixels in the part that was cropped out. The bit that is left still has the same resolution

Of course you throw away the pixels that cropped out. That’s the idea of cropping: get rid of the part of the image that doesn’t contribute to good composition.

but the question is " Why didn’t you get
closer to the subject and frame the photo properly in the first place?"

That might be a legitimate question if the person is photographing carefully placed static objects, but when you’re photographing people and events it’s a silly question. The photographer shouldn’t push his way up to the subject and stick the camera in the person’s face. This is a question about wedding photographs, and the photographer is a recorder and not a participant. He should be hanging back and being unobtrusive.

Often, in crowds, the best shots are what weren’t seen when the image was snapped. You look at the whole picture and crop out all but that one face with the interesting expression.



Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL
TC
tony cooper
Nov 12, 2005
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 00:11:38 GMT, "Steven Wandy" wrote:

Then the people you send them to will be sending them to a lab. Yes, all photo places, like WalMart, use a ‘lab’.
I realize this. I have no interest in going to Walmart or any other lab. Why did a relatively simple question about the proper way to crop/resize an image get these types of "helpful" answers???

The problem is that Voided has a good point. You’ve asked for advice, and he’s given you a good suggestion but you seem to want to reject it.

It seems simple enough to me. Burn one CD with half a dozen shots on it. Leave some of them in the original size and crop some to what you think is right. Repeat the same image in different sizes. Then take that CD to Walmart and get prints. By comparing the prints to the format submitted, you’ll know exactly what to do with the rest of the project.

It’ll cost you a couple of bucks, but it will absolutely answer your question. Having married off a daughter myself, I know that another couple of bucks is a drop in the bucket.

What I never seem to be able to understand is why people come to a newsgroup and ask a question, and then blow off the answers. If there are answers you don’t want to hear, then don’t ask questions.

It just seems the polite thing to do is accept all answers graciously and use the ones that you like.

Damn! I’ve used "Voided" and "polite" in the same post. How can that be?



Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL
V
Voivod
Nov 12, 2005
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 04:20:31 GMT, Tony Cooper
scribbled:

On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 00:11:38 GMT, "Steven Wandy" wrote:

Then the people you send them to will be sending them to a lab. Yes, all photo places, like WalMart, use a ‘lab’.
I realize this. I have no interest in going to Walmart or any other lab. Why did a relatively simple question about the proper way to crop/resize an image get these types of "helpful" answers???

The problem is that Voided has a good point. You’ve asked for advice,

Name lames will get you nowhere.

and he’s given you a good suggestion but you seem to want to reject it.

Acerbity, it bothers people 😉

It seems simple enough to me. Burn one CD with half a dozen shots on it. Leave some of them in the original size and crop some to what you think is right. Repeat the same image in different sizes. Then take that CD to Walmart and get prints. By comparing the prints to the format submitted, you’ll know exactly what to do with the rest of the project.

He doesn’t even need to do that. All he’s got to do is upload a couple unaltered images to Walmart.com and have them delivered to his doorstep.

It’ll cost you a couple of bucks, but it will absolutely answer your question. Having married off a daughter myself, I know that another couple of bucks is a drop in the bucket.

What I never seem to be able to understand is why people come to a newsgroup and ask a question, and then blow off the answers. If there are answers you don’t want to hear, then don’t ask questions.
It just seems the polite thing to do is accept all answers graciously and use the ones that you like.

Damn! I’ve used "Voided" and "polite" in the same post. How can that be?

Like a rash, I grow on people. Soon you’ll be president of my fan-boi club.
BN
Bill Newton
Nov 12, 2005
"Marsupilami" wrote in message

English sure not my native language and no I don’t know what you mean. And I’M NOT A SUPPORTER (I have a brain)

I’m sorry but I fail to fully comprehend your comment above. However if you’re saying that you do not support Voivod’s obnoxious postings (because you have a brain) then I and many others would fully agree with you.

I really do hope that you know what I mean.

Bill Newton.
BN
Bill Newton
Nov 12, 2005
"Tony Cooper" wrote in message >

Damn! I’ve used "Voided" and "polite" in the same post. How can that be?

It can be that you’re about as sharp as a sausage…………..unless you intended the Voivod malapropism 🙂

Bill Newton
B
Brian
Nov 12, 2005
Bill Newton wrote:
"Tony Cooper" wrote in message >

Damn! I’ve used "Voided" and "polite" in the same post. How can that be?

It can be that you’re about as sharp as a sausage…………..unless you intended the Voivod malapropism 🙂

Bill Newton
So what was the conclusion? How does one resize a photo in the 3:2 aspect ration from a 320 x 240 pixels origianl to 6000 x 4000 with no loss of quality?
BN
Bill Newton
Nov 12, 2005
"Marsupilami" wrote in message

and so…
The next time someone will sound well just by writing every "e" with an accent and pretend it’s French
just to show he jumped the O’level at 17
and doing smart sentences like "merci beaucoup LE France" and think we should applause. I will triple laugh (since that day I used to ignore).
Sorry again that I injured your poor pretty ears.

Beg pardon?

Bill Newton
BN
Bill Newton
Nov 12, 2005
"Brian" <cooloox_at_optusnet.com.au> wrote in message news:4375ba5b$0$30211

So what was the conclusion? How does one resize a photo in the 3:2 aspect ration from a 320 x 240 pixels origianl to 6000 x 4000 with no loss of quality?

Ask Voivod ;-))

Bill Newton.
YD
yodel_dodel
Nov 12, 2005
Brian wrote:

So what was the conclusion? How does one resize a photo in the 3:2 aspect ration from a 320 x 240 pixels origianl to 6000 x 4000 with no loss of quality?

Well it’s sorta fun to repeat it: There will be no loss of quality in the resulting 4×6 Walmart print if you resize the image to 6000×4000 first compared to leaving it at 320×240.


Gregor’s Motorradreisen:
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BN
Bill Newton
Nov 12, 2005
"Voivod" wrote in message
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 12:25:32 +0000 (UTC), "Bill Newton" scribbled:

Know what I mean?

Yeah, you’re an idiot, I knew that already.

Hey Voivod, I was looking for sparkling repartee ……………………… got any?

Bill Newton
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Leonard Lehew
Nov 12, 2005
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 00:47:49 GMT, "Steven Wandy" wrote:

My daughter just got married this past weekend and I am making up a CDR for some friends and relatives of some of the pictures that I took. I wish to have the files resized so that they can go to Costco/Walmart/etc. and make 4×6 prints without any hassles.
When I make my own prints, I use PSCS2 and crop the images to 4×6 but then print them myself by either telling PS to resize the image in the printer driver or use Qimage.
(1) I am not sure if my cropping to 4×6 is what Walmart, etc. would need or do I have to resize the images also?
(2) If I should resize them, to what DPI for these types of services? Thanks for any help,
Steve
Your camera produces an image with an aspect ratio of 1 : 1 1/3. A 4" x 6" print has, of course, an aspect ratio of 1: 1 1/2. If you print without cropping there will be some unused paper in the long dimension of the paper.

In order to fill a 4 x 6, you need to remove some from the top and/or bottom at least. If you use the PS crop tool and set the size to 4 x 6, you can adjust the size of the cropping selection box and move it around, and Photoshop will maintain the aspect ratio necessary for a 4 x 6 print.

After cropping, you can set the image size to 4 x 6 if you like, but the print service should be able to handle it without your doing so. If you resize after cropping, for best print quality in larger sizes, you should probably not resample the file. You could, however, safely reduce the file size to say 1200 x 1800 or even 800 x 1200 if you are sure that the recipient will not want to print large than 4 x 6.

Of course, if the recipient want to print something other than 4 x 6, cropping to an aspect ratio of 1: 1 1/2 won’t do much good. 4 x 6 is one of the few "standard" paper sizes with this aspect ratio.
TC
tony cooper
Nov 12, 2005
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 07:53:19 +0000 (UTC), "Bill Newton" wrote:

"Tony Cooper" wrote in message >

Damn! I’ve used "Voided" and "polite" in the same post. How can that be?

It can be that you’re about as sharp as a sausage…………..unless you intended the Voivod malapropism 🙂

Bill Newton

Get your mind in motion, Bill, and you’ll work it out.



Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL
TC
tony cooper
Nov 12, 2005
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 05:55:02 GMT, Voivod wrote:

On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 04:20:31 GMT, Tony Cooper
scribbled:

On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 00:11:38 GMT, "Steven Wandy" wrote:

Then the people you send them to will be sending them to a lab. Yes, all photo places, like WalMart, use a ‘lab’.
I realize this. I have no interest in going to Walmart or any other lab. Why did a relatively simple question about the proper way to crop/resize an image get these types of "helpful" answers???

The problem is that Voided has a good point. You’ve asked for advice,

Name lames will get you nowhere.
C’mon, Voided, you know you like the attention.


Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL
V
Voivod
Nov 12, 2005
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 16:17:13 GMT, Tony Cooper
scribbled:

On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 05:55:02 GMT, Voivod wrote:

On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 04:20:31 GMT, Tony Cooper
scribbled:

On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 00:11:38 GMT, "Steven Wandy" wrote:

Then the people you send them to will be sending them to a lab. Yes, all photo places, like WalMart, use a ‘lab’.
I realize this. I have no interest in going to Walmart or any other lab. Why did a relatively simple question about the proper way to crop/resize an image get these types of "helpful" answers???

The problem is that Voided has a good point. You’ve asked for advice,

Name lames will get you nowhere.
C’mon, Voided, you know you like the attention.

I bask in it. I revel in it. I laugh my ass off at grammar school quality name lames. Go on, intentionally misspell my name several more times, it certainly makes you look intellectual!

The even more amusing part is where you snipped off your agreeing with me.
SW
Steven Wandy
Nov 12, 2005
Have you actually received the proper advice to your original question about 4 x 6 prints yet?
Yes. The files are done and burned to CDR’s. Thanks for asking.
SW
Steven Wandy
Nov 12, 2005
The problem is that Voided has a good point. You’ve asked for advice, and he’s given you a good suggestion but you seem to want to reject it.

While the advice might be "a good point", two responses to that: (1) The obnoxious way the "good point" was made would turn anyone off, and (2) I was hoping that someone would have had some experience using one of these
services (as I have not) and could advise me what they did. A point that seems
completely lost on Voivod and (without any malice or insult intended) yourself.
V
Voivod
Nov 12, 2005
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 17:19:50 GMT, "Steven Wandy" scribbled:

The problem is that Voided has a good point. You’ve asked for advice, and he’s given you a good suggestion but you seem to want to reject it.

While the advice might be "a good point", two responses to that: (1) The obnoxious way the "good point" was made would turn anyone off, and

It only got obnoxious when you acted like a fucking moron.

"How far off are they? My Kodak only adds a minuscule amount that the processor will crop. I’ve never noticed any real oddball images letting them deal with the image dimensions. Is the work of cropping every single picture really worth the effort is what you need to ask. But hell at .12 a print it would be easier just to experiment with a few to see the results instead of editing all the pics beforehand."

Was not obnoxious in any way. Of course you couldn’t accept TRY IT AND SEE as a logical answer and you flew off the handle with the flames. But hey, if it gets you through the day, blame me. Not like I give a shit.

(2) I was hoping that someone would have had some experience using one of these >services (as I have not) and could advise me what they did. A point that seems >completely lost on Voivod and (without any malice or insult intended) yourself.

Odd, I TOLD you I’d used their services multiple times, it’s even quoted above along with my "If you really want to know, TRY IT" advice. Perhaps you have a reading comprehension problem or does simple logic make your head hurt? Either way you could have just spent, what, two whole dollars and had several pictures delivered to your home to see EXACTLY what the processor would do with them.

You are an imbecile.
SW
Steven Wandy
Nov 12, 2005
"How far off are they? My Kodak only adds a minuscule amount that the processor will crop. I’ve never noticed any real oddball images letting them deal with the image dimensions.

My point was that the camera I was using at the wedding (Cannon SD550) needed to be cropped – either by me or by the lab – to get a 4×6 print. Therefore
if I did not do the cropping, the lab would have had to do it.

Is the work of cropping every
single picture really worth the effort is what you need to ask.

Since you are so educated in PS, once you have opened an image to make whatever adjustments you feel you want, how much longer does the actually cropping take?
My initial question is whether or not the file then needed to be resized to a particular DPI when using one of these services. (And yes this is
based on having a previous problem with a different chain.)

What was obnoxious was the implication that I would rather waste all this time
rather than the small amount of money it would cost to do test prints. Only problems with that idea are (1) I don’t know which store/lab is convenient
for the people who are getting the CDRs and – while you don’t know me personally –
(2) I certainly don’t care about the cost (just ask my wife).

Odd, I TOLD you I’d used their services multiple times,

Yes you did – I believe it was Walmart. But again, I don’t know whether that is
where the people getting the CDR’s plan on going.

You are an imbecile.

Do you really get enjoyment with name calling to people who you don’t even know?
V
Voivod
Nov 12, 2005
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 18:45:38 GMT, "Steven Wandy" scribbled:

"How far off are they? My Kodak only adds a minuscule amount that the processor will crop. I’ve never noticed any real oddball images letting them deal with the image dimensions.

My point was that the camera I was using at the wedding (Cannon SD550) needed to be cropped – either by me or by the lab – to get a 4×6 print. Therefore if I did not do the cropping, the lab would have had to do it.

My point was you specifically asked what such services would require and/or do with your images and the best way is to TRY IT AND FIND OUT. We’ll hammer that simple logic into that concrete block you call a head one of these days.

Is the work of cropping every
single picture really worth the effort is what you need to ask.

Since you are so educated in PS, once you have opened an image to make whatever adjustments you feel you want, how much longer does the actually cropping take?
My initial question is whether or not the file then needed to be resized to a particular DPI when using one of these services. (And yes this is
based on having a previous problem with a different chain.)
What was obnoxious was the implication that I would rather waste all this time

So it’s obnoxious to try and help you save time… I’ll remember that. I know! Buy the equipment and process the pictures yourself!

rather than the small amount of money it would cost to do test prints.

And yet test prints would show you exactly what you needed to know.

Only problems with that idea are (1) I don’t know which store/lab is convenient

They’re for the most part all the same.

for the people who are getting the CDRs and – while you don’t know me personally –
(2) I certainly don’t care about the cost (just ask my wife).
Odd, I TOLD you I’d used their services multiple times,

Yes you did – I believe it was Walmart. But again, I don’t know whether that is
where the people getting the CDR’s plan on going.

You are an imbecile.

Do you really get enjoyment with name calling to people who you don’t even know?

Do you really need to ask?
BN
Bill Newton
Nov 13, 2005
Tony Cooper" wrote >

Get your mind in motion, Bill, and you’ll work it out.

Oh dear …….your remark above is a ‘non sequitur’ so it appears that you failed to comprehend the real meaning of my earlier posting. Probably my fault though ‘cos it was perhaps a little too subtle for you.

Anyway, now that I have an idea of your comprehension limitations, I promise to dumb down any further postings aimed your way. I don’t mean ‘The cat sat on the mat’ sort of thing, as I think your a bit brighter than that, but I will endeavour to make any future postings very simple, so that even you will understand them.

In closing perhaps I can suggest that you may find it helpful to re-read the posting that elicited your
‘non sequitur’ response,’cos you never know, with a bit of luck the penny may drop.

Know what I mean?

Bill Newton.
S
SCRUFF
Nov 13, 2005
You all sound like a bunch of bored pussies. Move on.

"Bill Newton" wrote in message
Tony Cooper" wrote >

Get your mind in motion, Bill, and you’ll work it out.

Oh dear …….your remark above is a ‘non sequitur’ so it appears that
you
failed to comprehend the real meaning of my earlier posting. Probably my fault though ‘cos it was perhaps a little too subtle for you.
Anyway, now that I have an idea of your comprehension limitations, I
promise
to dumb down any further postings aimed your way. I don’t mean ‘The cat
sat
on the mat’ sort of thing, as I think your a bit brighter than that, but I will endeavour to make any future postings very simple, so that even you will understand them.

In closing perhaps I can suggest that you may find it helpful to re-read the posting that elicited your
‘non sequitur’ response,’cos you never know, with a bit of luck the penny may drop.

Know what I mean?

Bill Newton.

SW
Steven Wandy
Nov 13, 2005
Do you really need to ask?
You’re right. Your answers speak for themselves.
V
Voivod
Nov 13, 2005
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 05:04:50 GMT, "Steven Wandy" scribbled:

Do you really need to ask?
You’re right. Your answers speak for themselves.

Still amused by the way you snip out all the helpful, useful bits just to be a pedantic twat.
TC
tony cooper
Nov 13, 2005
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 00:25:29 +0000 (UTC), "Bill Newton" wrote:

Tony Cooper" wrote >

Get your mind in motion, Bill, and you’ll work it out.

Oh dear …….your remark above is a ‘non sequitur’ so it appears that you failed to comprehend the real meaning of my earlier posting. Probably my fault though ‘cos it was perhaps a little too subtle for you.

I admire you for trying, but you really shouldn’t use words you don’t understand. "Voided" would not be a malapropism because it was not an inadvertent misuse. The remark above does follow, but evidently you don’t.

I also admire this parody of yours of how a pompous twit would write what he thought was a scathing bit of frippery, but you’ve over-egged. It’s just too pretentious to ring true.

Anyway, now that I have an idea of your comprehension limitations, I promise to dumb down any further postings aimed your way. I don’t mean ‘The cat sat on the mat’ sort of thing, as I think your a bit brighter than that, but I will endeavour to make any future postings very simple, so that even you will understand them.

In closing perhaps I can suggest that you may find it helpful to re-read the posting that elicited your
‘non sequitur’ response,’cos you never know, with a bit of luck the penny may drop.

You might read my post, and several before that in other threads, where "Voided" was used more than once. The use annoys the little man, and that has to be a good thing.

Know what I mean?

Well, you do need a nudge. You need that explained?



Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL
GF
Greyson Forkyurner
Nov 22, 2005
Dearie me Voivod, this is at least the fifth time you’ve responded to comments in this thread, and the juvenile invective you feel it necessary
to
include in your postings strongly suggest that you are a very sad and insecure person.

I suspect that you are totally bald. Likely caused by you tearing your
hair
out almost every time that somebody seeks advice from this Newsgroup. I
also
suspect that your fingernails are chewed down to your elbows, and that you suffer from chronic indigestion which unfortunately generates a
permanently
turned down mouth which in turn does nothing at all for your shifty, maybe even cross eyes.

Take my advice, Learn to relax, go with the flow, be a nice person,
respond
with pleasant advice, or don’t respond at all, grow some hair, believe
that
fingers long to have nails, pucker those lips upwards, look folk straight
in
the eye. (hope that’s possible) Do all of these things and your chronic indigestion will magically cease to be.

Know what I mean?

Bill Newton.

Nice try. hope it works.

GF

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