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Dec 6, 2005
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Hi Group,
I’ve finally had it with buying color cartridges for my Canon i550 and getting 20 prints or less before having to replace them again. does anyone here regularly refill ink cartridges? And can you recommend a good company to buy from? Any ideas will be appreciated.
Bob

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emanon
Dec 6, 2005
"Bob" wrote in message
Hi Group,
I’ve finally had it with buying color cartridges for my Canon i550 and getting 20 prints or less before having to replace them again. does anyone here regularly refill ink cartridges? And can you recommend a good company to buy from? Any ideas will be appreciated.
Bob
In the past, I used InkjetMall.com as good source of inks. I stopped, but not because of any quality problems. I just did not use enough ink to justify the hassle versus cost saving. I also looked at their continuous feed system and came to the same conclusion. I’ve gone back to factory cartridges and am happy.

I am not familiar with your printer, or what you are printing, so I can’t really relate to you only getting 20 prints before running on empty. I’m using an Epson 2200 and the last time I did a major printing project, I got over 100 photos ranging from 4×6 to 8×10 plus 3 14 x 17 before I needed more ink. How does your ink usage compare to other Cannon i550 users?
JH
Jim Hargan
Dec 6, 2005
On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 17:38:17 -0800, Bob wrote:

Hi Group,
I’ve finally had it with buying color cartridges for my Canon i550 and getting 20 prints or less before having to replace them again. does anyone here regularly refill ink cartridges? And can you recommend a good company to buy from? Any ideas will be appreciated.
Bob

Never tried refilling. But I’ve tried 3rd party, ranging from discounters to high-end suppliers. Very unhappy with all of them.

My suggestion. Send ALL of your casual printing to a laser jet — you’ll make up that extra $150 purchase price in 8 weeks. Use your ink jet only for important stuff where you really need color and are willing to pay for it. (But be sure to send something to your ink jet once a week just to keep air out of the tubes.)

Jim Hargan
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Jim Hargan
Dec 6, 2005
On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 02:43:54 GMT, Jim Hargan wrote:

My suggestion. Send ALL of your casual printing to a laser jet

I meant to mention that laser jets can be very long lived. I am still using an HP Laserjet 4L I purchased in 1994! And this was a cheap, low-end personal model. My experience doesn’t seem to be unique either; replacement cartridges are still easy to find after 11 years!

Jh
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RicSeyler
Dec 6, 2005


Jim Hargan wrote:

On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 17:38:17 -0800, Bob wrote:

Hi Group,
I’ve finally had it with buying color cartridges for my Canon i550 and getting 20 prints or less before having to replace them again. does anyone here regularly refill ink cartridges? And can you recommend a good company to buy from? Any ideas will be appreciated.
Bob

Never tried refilling. But I’ve tried 3rd party, ranging from discounters to high-end suppliers. Very unhappy with all of them.

My suggestion. Send ALL of your casual printing to a laser jet — you’ll make up that extra $150 purchase price in 8 weeks. Use your ink jet only for important stuff where you really need color and are willing to pay for it. (But be sure to send something to your ink jet once a week just to keep air out of the tubes.)
Casual printing, yes I agree with that, more economical. But to sell "originals" to customers gotta go with InkJet. Catching the glare off of Laser prints and the black disappears and you can see heights of the layers of toner…

I have been using 88inkjet.com for discount cartridges (Epson C80, Epson 1280, Epson Stylus 3000)
and get good color matching, but I do get a lot of half full cartridges. DON’T GET Office Depot
branded cartridges, terrible color matching. Unusable for selling a print. I haven’t tried the Refill Route… I do know you have to get a "cartridge resetter" to do refilling.

Jim Hargan


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Jim Hargan
Dec 6, 2005
On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 10:40:33 -0600, RicSeyler wrote:

Casual printing, yes I agree with that, more economical. But to sell "originals" to customers gotta go with InkJet.

Absolutely. If you are making money off it, pull out all the stops. Best ink, best paper, plus a test print or three. Your fee will cover the costs.

Otherwise use laser jet. In fact, use b&w laserjet. Set up two printer drivers to the same physical printer, one configured to economy mode and the other to high quality, and make the economy mode one your default.

Do this and you won’t have to worry about cheap ink or refilling cartridges. Your expensive inkjet prints will generate income, and your other print jobs will come in around two a penny.

Jh
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KatWoman
Dec 6, 2005
"Jim Hargan" wrote in message
On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 10:40:33 -0600, RicSeyler wrote:

Casual printing, yes I agree with that, more economical. But to sell "originals" to customers gotta go with InkJet.

Absolutely. If you are making money off it, pull out all the stops. Best ink, best paper, plus a test print or three. Your fee will cover the costs.

Otherwise use laser jet. In fact, use b&w laserjet. Set up two printer drivers to the same physical printer, one configured to economy mode and the other to high quality, and make the economy mode one your default.
Do this and you won’t have to worry about cheap ink or refilling cartridges. Your expensive inkjet prints will generate income, and your other print jobs will come in around two a penny.

Jh

I agree, the off brand cartridges are too risky in quality and color variation.
I always use Epson, (if you don’t the warranty is voided) I have switched to Ilford paper though and am happy with the results and it is cheaper than the Epson choices for the same sizes.
I always have messups in printing, and allow for it by charging a fair amount for a print, knowing ahead of time I may have to make 1-3 prints before I am satisfied.
It was no different in the old BW darkroom, test strips aside there were always those prints that needed several tries before you got the perfect one.
if you hate printing I recommend out sourcing that part of the job to a commercial lab, they often have better quality printers than you can afford and only charge for "good" ones.
I figure that my costs including wasted paper and ink maybe as much as $5.00 or as little as $1.00. So I charge $15.00 for an 8×10 that more than covers it.
If you have Epson and print rarely ALWAYS use the nozzle clean utility before printing on good paper!! the jets clog up if you don’t print every day.
I also keep the printer covered when not in use due to dust and cat hair, this reduces errors too.
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kctan
Dec 6, 2005
I used once on my old Epson printer. Original set (b&w and colors) cost approx.US$30 but I paid US$15 for each refill. After 5 refills, I saved $75 but the printer head got clotted due to the refills. Repair cost $80. Wasted all the efforts.

"Bob" wrote in message
Hi Group,
I’ve finally had it with buying color cartridges for my Canon i550 and getting 20 prints or less before having to replace them again. does anyone here regularly refill ink cartridges? And can you recommend a good company to buy from? Any ideas will be appreciated.
Bob
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RicSeyler
Dec 6, 2005
Dang Kattie…… I’m selling 8×10 for 3 bucks…. (epson premium glossy) arrgh
Gotta see if I can find what the market bears around here… And $20 will get you blemishes and stray hairs, etc fixed.

KatWoman wrote:

"Jim Hargan" wrote in message

On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 10:40:33 -0600, RicSeyler wrote:

Casual printing, yes I agree with that, more economical. But to sell "originals" to customers gotta go with InkJet.
Absolutely. If you are making money off it, pull out all the stops. Best ink, best paper, plus a test print or three. Your fee will cover the costs.

Otherwise use laser jet. In fact, use b&w laserjet. Set up two printer drivers to the same physical printer, one configured to economy mode and the other to high quality, and make the economy mode one your default.
Do this and you won’t have to worry about cheap ink or refilling cartridges. Your expensive inkjet prints will generate income, and your other print jobs will come in around two a penny.

Jh

I agree, the off brand cartridges are too risky in quality and color variation.
I always use Epson, (if you don’t the warranty is voided) I have switched to Ilford paper though and am happy with the results and it is cheaper than the Epson choices for the same sizes.
I always have messups in printing, and allow for it by charging a fair amount for a print, knowing ahead of time I may have to make 1-3 prints before I am satisfied.
It was no different in the old BW darkroom, test strips aside there were always those prints that needed several tries before you got the perfect one.
if you hate printing I recommend out sourcing that part of the job to a commercial lab, they often have better quality printers than you can afford and only charge for "good" ones.
I figure that my costs including wasted paper and ink maybe as much as $5.00 or as little as $1.00. So I charge $15.00 for an 8×10 that more than covers it.
If you have Epson and print rarely ALWAYS use the nozzle clean utility before printing on good paper!! the jets clog up if you don’t print every day.
I also keep the printer covered when not in use due to dust and cat hair, this reduces errors too.


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R7
Dec 7, 2005
On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 17:38:17 -0800, "Bob" wrote:

Hi Group,
I’ve finally had it with buying color cartridges for my Canon i550 and getting 20 prints or less before having to replace them again. does anyone here regularly refill ink cartridges? And can you recommend a good company to buy from? Any ideas will be appreciated.

I presume you are doing large prints as ink cart life on the S520 I had was good … until the printhead died. I’ve used a refill kit from Costco that works well enough if you don’t mind the mess and make sure you seal the cart … else it leaks. There are other brands of carts available for the printer, often at about 1/4 the cost of Canon carts purchased locally … but you end up buying a couple of full sets of carts to get a good price. eg: a quick browse show a set including 4 black and and 2 of each color for $34. The refill kit from Costco was less than $15 as i recall and I’d guess there was enough there to refill black a dozen times and the colors at least half a dozen times each.
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SCRUFF
Dec 7, 2005
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SCRUFF
Dec 7, 2005
"KatWoman" wrote in message
I always have messups in printing, and allow for it by charging a fair amount for a print, knowing ahead of time I may have to make 1-3 prints before I am satisfied.
You charge the customer for your mistakes or bad equipment?
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Larry Bud
Dec 7, 2005
Bob wrote:
Hi Group,
I’ve finally had it with buying color cartridges for my Canon i550 and getting 20 prints or less before having to replace them again. does anyone here regularly refill ink cartridges? And can you recommend a good company to buy from? Any ideas will be appreciated.

Absolutely:

www.inksupply.com

I don’t know anything about Canon’s, but most likely you need a "chip resetter". This resets the cartridge to tell the printer that it is full.
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Bob
Dec 8, 2005
Well thanks to all for your replies. I failed to mention up front that I am not a professional, but a student/hobbyist.
So, I think I’ll try the refilling route.

"Larry Bud" wrote in message
Bob wrote:
Hi Group,
I’ve finally had it with buying color cartridges for my Canon i550 and getting 20 prints or less before having to replace them again. does anyone
here regularly refill ink cartridges? And can you recommend a good company
to buy from? Any ideas will be appreciated.

Absolutely:

www.inksupply.com

I don’t know anything about Canon’s, but most likely you need a "chip resetter". This resets the cartridge to tell the printer that it is full.
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R7
Dec 22, 2005
I don’t know anything about Canon’s, but most likely you need a "chip resetter". This resets the cartridge to tell the printer that it is full.

The Canon carts don’t have a counter chip that requires a reset like Epson. They are easy to fill BUT you have to make sure they’re sealed or they leak which isn’t pretty. You have to be on a pretty tight budget or use a lot of ink to want to refill these days as the carts are often in the under $3 range.
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KatWoman
Dec 25, 2005
I charge $50 an hour for retouching, most pics only need half hour so it’s $25.00 to retouch it and save in various file formats and then I also charge them for the CD ($10-15) and if they want prints.(9×12 on 11×17 is $20.00) I am lucky to have loyal clients, people of good taste who want it good and quality, not cheap and fast.
I give them the option to take the unretouched digital files to any other printer too, so no one is forcing them to order from me. The local laser shops do a quite decent job for a lot less but my clients want me after I show them examples of my work and prints.
We used to sell hand made BW fiber based prints for similar prices with hand etching/scraping silver off retouching which is quite labor intensive, so a lot of my customers were used to paying for custom work. After I realized how much time it takes to make really nice prints and the costs involved, not to mention the knowledge required and resizing and saving for file formats and sizing for print and web, making CD’s, making 2-3 prints to get a nice one, I try to make it worthwhile. I think $3.00 is way too cheap. if clients spend good money for decent well lit photos they should be willing to go the extra cost and get the best prints. If people want cheap proof prints they can get them at any Wal-Mart, but they have to realize that a machine will be deciding what they look like. I cannot compete with prices like that and would not try to. I think at $3.00 you are working for free or worse losing money on it.

"RicSeyler" wrote in message
Dang Kattie…… I’m selling 8×10 for 3 bucks…. (epson premium glossy) arrgh
Gotta see if I can find what the market bears around here… And $20 will get you blemishes and stray hairs, etc fixed.

KatWoman wrote:

"Jim Hargan" wrote in message

On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 10:40:33 -0600, RicSeyler wrote:

Casual printing, yes I agree with that, more economical. But to sell "originals" to customers gotta go with InkJet.

Absolutely. If you are making money off it, pull out all the stops. Best ink, best paper, plus a test print or three. Your fee will cover the costs.

Otherwise use laser jet. In fact, use b&w laserjet. Set up two printer drivers to the same physical printer, one configured to economy mode and the other to high quality, and make the economy mode one your default.

Do this and you won’t have to worry about cheap ink or refilling cartridges. Your expensive inkjet prints will generate income, and your other print jobs will come in around two a penny.

Jh

I agree, the off brand cartridges are too risky in quality and color variation.
I always use Epson, (if you don’t the warranty is voided) I have switched to Ilford paper though and am happy with the results and it is cheaper than the Epson choices for the same sizes.
I always have messups in printing, and allow for it by charging a fair amount for a print, knowing ahead of time I may have to make 1-3 prints before I am satisfied.
It was no different in the old BW darkroom, test strips aside there were always those prints that needed several tries before you got the perfect one.
if you hate printing I recommend out sourcing that part of the job to a commercial lab, they often have better quality printers than you can afford and only charge for "good" ones.
I figure that my costs including wasted paper and ink maybe as much as $5.00 or as little as $1.00. So I charge $15.00 for an 8×10 that more than covers it.
If you have Epson and print rarely ALWAYS use the nozzle clean utility before printing on good paper!! the jets clog up if you don’t print every day.
I also keep the printer covered when not in use due to dust and cat hair, this reduces errors too.


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