Weird Fonts

Hi Magician, Happy Holidays to you. There are no "jaggy" font s on my screen when I opened Russell Brown’s site, but what an interesting site you have led me to. Many thanks and good luck with your font problem.

Geoff.
"The Magician" wrote in message

Hi guys,
Happy Holdays.
I noticed over the past month or so, certain websites that I go to have a weird font on them that kinda looks like that really old jaggedy text you’d see in a book from the 1700’s.
And it also has those little squares that you’d see with a font that didn’t include certain puntuation marks and capital letters. (hope ya know what I mean. dunno what their called, but it’s like a square space filler for missing characters in some fonts.) When I first noticed it… it was on a graphic artist’s website, and just kinda thought…"Hmmm… weird, ugly font this dude is using here.".
But now I see it on a lot of sites.
On sites where they use a few different styles of font.
And kinda think…it’s not the website…but maybe that I’M missing that font, and IE6 is substituting another font for it or something. But I haven’t deleted any fonts lately. Could the web designers have just included some oddball font, and my browser is substituting it with a grainy, weird one?
Here’s the graphic dudes website. When i view this page…most everything on it is jaggedy, with the letters all uneven, and their are those square "spacers" every so often.

http://www.russellbrown.com/tips_tech.html

And I noticed it on Amazon.com… I see it like every so often. Like where they might use a different font on a page someplace… one paragraph or title will have the same weird jaggy text.
It’s no real big deal… but I just can’t figure what the Hell is going on.
Any ideas?
Thanks.

You might want to have a look at the default fonts in your browser settings. P

The Magician wrote:

Hi guys,
Happy Holdays.
I noticed over the past month or so, certain websites that I go to have a weird font on them that kinda looks like that really old jaggedy text you’d see in a book from the 1700’s.
And it also has those little squares that you’d see with a font that didn’t include certain puntuation marks and capital letters. (hope ya know what I mean. dunno what their called, but it’s like a square space filler for missing characters in some fonts.) When I first noticed it… it was on a graphic artist’s website, and just kinda thought…"Hmmm… weird, ugly font this dude is using here.".
But now I see it on a lot of sites.
On sites where they use a few different styles of font.
And kinda think…it’s not the website…but maybe that I’M missing that font, and IE6 is substituting another font for it or something. But I haven’t deleted any fonts lately. Could the web designers have just included some oddball font, and my browser is substituting it with a grainy, weird one?
Here’s the graphic dudes website. When i view this page…most everything on it is jaggedy, with the letters all uneven, and their are those square "spacers" every so often.

http://www.russellbrown.com/tips_tech.html

And I noticed it on Amazon.com… I see it like every so often. Like where they might use a different font on a page someplace… one paragraph or title will have the same weird jaggy text.
It’s no real big deal… but I just can’t figure what the Hell is going on.
Any ideas?
Thanks.

…. and whether you have specified "Use MY fonts" regardless.

On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 09:56:25 +0000 (UTC), bixx found these unused words floating about:

You might want to have a look at the default fonts in your browser settings. P

The Magician wrote:

Hi guys,
Happy Holdays.
I noticed over the past month or so, certain websites that I go to have a weird font on them that kinda looks like that really old jaggedy text you’d see in a book from the 1700’s.
And it also has those little squares that you’d see with a font that didn’t include certain puntuation marks and capital letters. (hope ya know what I mean. dunno what their called, but it’s like a square space filler for missing characters in some fonts.) When I first noticed it… it was on a graphic artist’s website, and just kinda thought…"Hmmm… weird, ugly font this dude is using here.".
But now I see it on a lot of sites.
On sites where they use a few different styles of font.
And kinda think…it’s not the website…but maybe that I’M missing that font, and IE6 is substituting another font for it or something. But I haven’t deleted any fonts lately. Could the web designers have just included some oddball font, and my browser is substituting it with a grainy, weird one?
Here’s the graphic dudes website. When i view this page…most everything on it is jaggedy, with the letters all uneven, and their are those square "spacers" every so often.

http://www.russellbrown.com/tips_tech.html

And I noticed it on Amazon.com… I see it like every so often. Like where they might use a different font on a page someplace… one paragraph or title will have the same weird jaggy text.
It’s no real big deal… but I just can’t figure what the Hell is going on.
Any ideas?
Thanks.

On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 23:46:19 -0500, The Magician wrote:

I noticed over the past month or so, certain websites that I go to have a weird font on them that kinda looks like that really old jaggedy text you’d see in a book from the 1700’s.
And it also has those little squares that you’d see with a font that didn’t include certain puntuation marks and capital letters. (hope ya know what I mean. dunno what their called, but it’s like a square space filler for missing characters in some fonts.)

Thanks for the Russell Brown link. Interesting.

I looked at Brown’s HTML and CSS. He uses Cascading Style Sheets to set the left-most text’s font family to "Times", and the headline’s font family to "Verdana". He sets no fall-back fonts for those who fail to have these fonts on their system. (This is poor practice, btw.) This means that if you do not have the Times font installed, your browser will substitute its system font for the text. And if you do not have Verdana installed, your browser will substitute your system font for the headlines. Because your system font is a raster font, it does not scale properly; so when Brown’s page tells it to display bigger, it gets jaggy.

Times is a Mac only font; however, my WinXP browsers (tested on Firefox and IE6) display this with the closest Win font, Times New Roman. Verdana is automatically installed on both Win and Mac (AFAIK).

SO —
I would guess that you have a problem with either Times (Mac)/Times New Roman (Win), or Verdana — depending on whether your headline font or text font is messed up. If the bad font is missing from your font list, you must install it. If it is present on your font list, it is probably corrupt; you need to delete it and reinstall it.

In Windows, fixing a corrupt core font seems to be a bit tricky. Not hard, but not obvious. Evidently, Microsoft stopped supplying free copies of Times New Roman and Verdana back in 2002. Instead, you must obtain your copies by purchasing and installing MS software. If you are networked, you should be able to simply copy a clean version from another computer’s font folder; you will need to log on as an administrator, and have permission to read the other computer’s system folders. If you cannot do this, you can repair your copy of Windows with sfc (look it up in Microsoft Knowledge Base). Word and other MS software should be repairable from the Control Panel’s "Add or Remove Programs".

HTH

—
Jim Hargan
Freelance Photographer and Writer
www.harganonline.com

Have you checked your character encoding option.
Ocassionally I get blocks and question marks in funny places or where I know there should be a Ö or Ä for example.
I check the character encoding and it is set on unicode UTF. changing the character encoding to windows windows or a western ISO fixes that problem.

I haven’t had the problem with jaggies though. and the russel brown views just fine for me also.

The Magician wrote:

Hi guys,
Happy Holdays.
I noticed over the past month or so, certain websites that I go to have a weird font on them that kinda looks like that really old jaggedy text you’d see in a book from the 1700’s.
And it also has those little squares that you’d see with a font that didn’t include certain puntuation marks and capital letters. (hope ya know what I mean. dunno what their called, but it’s like a square space filler for missing characters in some fonts.) When I first noticed it… it was on a graphic artist’s website, and just kinda thought…"Hmmm… weird, ugly font this dude is using here.".
But now I see it on a lot of sites.
On sites where they use a few different styles of font.
And kinda think…it’s not the website…but maybe that I’M missing that font, and IE6 is substituting another font for it or something. But I haven’t deleted any fonts lately. Could the web designers have just included some oddball font, and my browser is substituting it with a grainy, weird one?
Here’s the graphic dudes website. When i view this page…most everything on it is jaggedy, with the letters all uneven, and their are those square "spacers" every so often.

http://www.russellbrown.com/tips_tech.html

And I noticed it on Amazon.com… I see it like every so often. Like where they might use a different font on a page someplace… one paragraph or title will have the same weird jaggy text.
It’s no real big deal… but I just can’t figure what the Hell is going on.
Any ideas?
Thanks.

"The Magician" wrote in message

Hi guys,
Happy Holdays.
I noticed over the past month or so, certain websites that I go to have a weird font on them that kinda looks like that really old jaggedy text you’d see in a book from the 1700’s.

In addition to the other suggestions, if you’re on Windows, check under display properties > appearance > effects — that standard font smoothing is checked.

Flo

Thanks for all your help and suggestions guys!
will run em all down and check it all out!
Happy Holidays and the best in the coming New Year!

da magish

On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 23:46:19 -0500, The Magician
wrote:

Hi guys,
Happy Holdays.
I noticed over the past month or so, certain websites that I go to have a weird font on them that kinda looks like that really old jaggedy text you’d see in a book from the 1700’s.
And it also has those little squares that you’d see with a font that didn’t include certain puntuation marks and capital letters. (hope ya know what I mean. dunno what their called, but it’s like a square space filler for missing characters in some fonts.) When I first noticed it… it was on a graphic artist’s website, and just kinda thought…"Hmmm… weird, ugly font this dude is using here.".
But now I see it on a lot of sites.

Ever did think it is all in your computer or maybe the horrible whiskey you drink over there.

On sites where they use a few different styles of font.
And kinda think…it’s not the website…but maybe that I’M missing that font, and IE6 is substituting another font for it or something. But I haven’t deleted any fonts lately. Could the web designers have just included some oddball font, and my browser is substituting it with a grainy, weird one?
Here’s the graphic dudes website. When i view this page…most everything on it is jaggedy, with the letters all uneven, and their are those square "spacers" every so often.

http://www.russellbrown.com/tips_tech.html

And I noticed it on Amazon.com… I see it like every so often. Like where they might use a different font on a page someplace… one paragraph or title will have the same weird jaggy text.
It’s no real big deal… but I just can’t figure what the Hell is going on.
Any ideas?
Thanks.