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Jan 7, 2006
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Good mornin’

it seems that there is a minimum of Corel Painter (specially on v9) tutorials on Internet. Otherwise, I am searching at the wrong places and under the wrong names. No search machine appears to be very lenient with tutorials there on.

While knowing this is of the subject for this ng, I do ask the question here ’cause many PS users (of which I am one) also make use of Corel Painter for the sake of different effects.
Although CS2 is truly a wonderful program,
it’s a known fact that Corel is still ahead re painting possibilities. I am also searching in the bookshops for a relative tutorial book without finding what I am looking for. Maybe a Internet order will be the answer.

The search is for ideas on different brushes and basically tutorials on changing photos into paintings by using
Corel Painter IX. Any help (links) will be appreciated.

Dave

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noone
Jan 7, 2006
In article , says…
Good mornin’

it seems that there is a minimum of Corel Painter (specially on v9) tutorials on Internet. Otherwise, I am searching at the wrong places and under the wrong names. No search machine appears to be very lenient with tutorials there on.

While knowing this is of the subject for this ng, I do ask the question here ’cause many PS users (of which I am one) also make use of Corel Painter for the sake of different effects.
Although CS2 is truly a wonderful program,
it’s a known fact that Corel is still ahead re painting possibilities. I am also searching in the bookshops for a relative tutorial book without finding what I am looking for. Maybe a Internet order will be the answer.

The search is for ideas on different brushes and basically tutorials on changing photos into paintings by using
Corel Painter IX. Any help (links) will be appreciated.

Dave

Dave,

You are correct about a dearth of Painter stuff on the Web, or Usenet. There were two NGs for Painter, but they are long since dead – people claimed that Corel killed them, because they wanted folk to go to their Web fora for all things Painter.

You might start with http://www.artistrymag.com/docs/classes.html, to look into Painter stuff. This is the URL for Karen Sperling’s "retreats," but I’ll bet you can navigate to her tutorials from it. She’s done several good Painter books over the years, and also training CD/DVD’s. Years ago, I got one of her earliest Painter books (~v3) and the CD was MAC only. She kindly replaced that CD with the PC ver and pointed out that the publisher just messed up, as the CDs were supposed to be X-platform, not MAC-only. She knows her stuff, and cares about her readers and Painter users.

Hunt
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Dave
Jan 7, 2006
On 7 Jan 2006 16:21:30 GMT, (Hunt) wrote:

In article , says…
Good mornin’

it seems that there is a minimum of Corel Painter (specially on v9) tutorials on Internet. Otherwise, I am searching at the wrong places and under the wrong names. No search machine appears to be very lenient with tutorials there on.

While knowing this is of the subject for this ng, I do ask the question here ’cause many PS users (of which I am one) also make use of Corel Painter for the sake of different effects.
Although CS2 is truly a wonderful program,
it’s a known fact that Corel is still ahead re painting possibilities. I am also searching in the bookshops for a relative tutorial book without finding what I am looking for. Maybe a Internet order will be the answer.

The search is for ideas on different brushes and basically tutorials on changing photos into paintings by using
Corel Painter IX. Any help (links) will be appreciated.

Dave

Dave,

You are correct about a dearth of Painter stuff on the Web, or Usenet. There were two NGs for Painter, but they are long since dead – people claimed that Corel killed them, because they wanted folk to go to their Web fora for all things Painter.

You might start with http://www.artistrymag.com/docs/classes.html, to look into Painter stuff. This is the URL for Karen Sperling’s "retreats," but I’ll bet you can navigate to her tutorials from it. She’s done several good Painter books over the years, and also training CD/DVD’s. Years ago, I got one of her earliest Painter books (~v3) and the CD was MAC only. She kindly replaced that CD with the PC ver and pointed out that the publisher just messed up, as the CDs were supposed to be X-platform, not MAC-only. She knows her stuff, and cares about her readers and Painter users.

Hunt

Hunt

Many thanx for your reply. And for mentioning the possibility of why there are no news groups on such a popular topic. It keep on being funny.

And another thanks for the *very useful* URL. Funny I could not pick it up on a search machine; and useful because there seem to be important links on the bottom of said page – tutorial CD’s.

Over the weekend I visited a popular (chain) bookshop, where an assistant tried to convince me CorelDRAW and Corel Painter is the same; while trying to sell me a book on CorelDRAW 9:-) Not even 12 but 9:-)

Thanks again Hunt, and keep well.

Dave
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Laura K
Jan 7, 2006
Dave wrote in news:0e4vr1hjho7e0dd5mjcaq4f729gqha91m0@
4ax.com:

The search is for ideas on different brushes and basically tutorials on changing photos into paintings by using
Corel Painter IX. Any help (links) will be appreciated.

Take a look at Corel’s Painter Essentials. It’s specifically designed to turn digital photos into paintings.
http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=Corel3/Produ cts/Display&pfid= 1047024307407&pid=1047025757941
At $69 for the download version, may be a good place to start learning Painter.
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Dave
Jan 7, 2006
On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 20:03:19 GMT, Laura K
wrote:

Dave wrote in news:0e4vr1hjho7e0dd5mjcaq4f729gqha91m0@
4ax.com:

The search is for ideas on different brushes and basically tutorials on changing photos into paintings by using
Corel Painter IX. Any help (links) will be appreciated.

Take a look at Corel’s Painter Essentials. It’s specifically designed to turn digital photos into paintings.
http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=Corel3/Produ cts/Display&pfid= 1047024307407&pid=1047025757941
At $69 for the download version, may be a good place to start learning Painter.

And how do you start learning if tutorials is as scarce as chicken teeth? (wonder whether you know the saying:-)
Thanks Laura, I spoiled myself with version IX.

Dave
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LeOpdenbrouw
Jan 7, 2006
You might also want to look at this book: The Photoshop and Painter Artist Tablet Book by Cher Threinen-Pendarvis. The main focus is on using Wacom tablets with both programs, but there are good examples and tutorials on various techniques.

Cheers Lee .
LK
Laura K
Jan 7, 2006
Dave wrote in news:un80s1dfrfi7hr9n337doc98lgv6l0ghii@
4ax.com:

And how do you start learning if tutorials is as scarce as chicken teeth? (wonder whether you know the saying:-)
Thanks Laura, I spoiled myself with version IX.

I did a Google search on Painter IX Tutorials and turned up many pages of tutorials for it.
There are also quite a few Painter IX tutorials on the Corel website. http://www.corel.com/painterix/training/index.html
as well as books and CDs.
Painter Essentials 3 includes tutorials in the program. You can download a free trial from Corel’s website.
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Dave
Jan 8, 2006
On Sat, 7 Jan 2006 12:52:53 -0800, (Lee O.)
wrote:

You might also want to look at this book: The Photoshop and Painter Artist Tablet Book by Cher Threinen-Pendarvis. The main focus is on using Wacom tablets with both programs, but there are good examples and tutorials on various techniques.

Cheers Lee .

I guess somewhere along the line I’l buy a Wacom tablet
but for this moment, tutorials on it will be a white elephant. Thanks for the tip, Lee

Dave
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Dave
Jan 8, 2006
On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 21:23:13 GMT, Laura K
wrote:

Dave wrote in news:un80s1dfrfi7hr9n337doc98lgv6l0ghii@
4ax.com:

And how do you start learning if tutorials is as scarce as chicken teeth? (wonder whether you know the saying:-)
Thanks Laura, I spoiled myself with version IX.

I did a Google search on Painter IX Tutorials and turned up many pages of tutorials for it.
There are also quite a few Painter IX tutorials on the Corel website. http://www.corel.com/painterix/training/index.html
as well as books and CDs.
Painter Essentials 3 includes tutorials in the program. You can download a free trial from Corel’s website.

All Don Seegmiller’s tutorials & tips is on my harddrive. And I question the ‘many pages of tutorials for it’.
My searchmachine includes 10 searhmachines (Speed Search v 5) and none of these 10 turned up many pages of tutorials on IX. Wonder if anyone else would try it:-)

Right after PS CS2 became available, I bought 3 books on it. Adobe Photoshop for Photographers – Martin Evening
How to do everything
and Classroom in a book.
I have some of these versions for CS(1) as well.
Now, Cyberspace is flooded with tutorials on CS2.
Maybe I should not be in such a hurry buying the same on Painter.

And maybe I should start a news group on Corel Painter.

Dave
N
noone
Jan 8, 2006
In article , says…
On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 21:23:13 GMT, Laura K
wrote:
[SNIP]
All Don Seegmiller’s tutorials & tips is on my harddrive. And I question the ‘many pages of tutorials for it’.
My searchmachine includes 10 searhmachines (Speed Search v 5) and none of these 10 turned up many pages of tutorials on IX. Wonder if anyone else would try it:-)

Right after PS CS2 became available, I bought 3 books on it. Adobe Photoshop for Photographers – Martin Evening
How to do everything
and Classroom in a book.
I have some of these versions for CS(1) as well.
Now, Cyberspace is flooded with tutorials on CS2.
Maybe I should not be in such a hurry buying the same on Painter.
And maybe I should start a news group on Corel Painter.

Dave

Unfortunately, Painter, all the way back to Fractal Design (is that the originator? Does’t seem to sound quite right!) has been a "poor-step-child" and not enough has been written about it. It’s a wonderful program, and just keeps getting better. I would not be without it. Even the major interface changes wrought by Corel didn’t really hurt it, and with IX, it has developed into a closer fit with PS. For every 100 books on PS, I’d guess that there has been 1 for Painter. Some of the old "Painter WOW" books are still viable, though one has to inturpret between the mechanics of the older ver and IX ( whatever).

If you do NOT have a tablet, do youself a major favor, and get a Wacom. You will not be disappointed.

Hunt
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Dave
Jan 8, 2006
On 8 Jan 2006 17:26:11 GMT, (Hunt) wrote:

In article , says…
On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 21:23:13 GMT, Laura K
wrote:
[SNIP]
All Don Seegmiller’s tutorials & tips is on my harddrive. And I question the ‘many pages of tutorials for it’.
My searchmachine includes 10 searhmachines (Speed Search v 5) and none of these 10 turned up many pages of tutorials on IX. Wonder if anyone else would try it:-)

Right after PS CS2 became available, I bought 3 books on it. Adobe Photoshop for Photographers – Martin Evening
How to do everything
and Classroom in a book.
I have some of these versions for CS(1) as well.
Now, Cyberspace is flooded with tutorials on CS2.
Maybe I should not be in such a hurry buying the same on Painter.
And maybe I should start a news group on Corel Painter.

Dave

Unfortunately, Painter, all the way back to Fractal Design (is that the originator? Does’t seem to sound quite right!) has been a "poor-step-child" and not enough has been written about it. It’s a wonderful program, and just keeps getting better. I would not be without it. Even the major interface changes wrought by Corel didn’t really hurt it, and with IX, it has developed into a closer fit with PS. For every 100 books on PS, I’d guess that there has been 1 for Painter. Some of the old "Painter WOW" books are still viable, though one has to inturpret between the mechanics of the older ver and IX ( whatever).

If you do NOT have a tablet, do youself a major favor, and get a Wacom. You will not be disappointed.

Hunt

There is a Painter 8 Wow book by Cher Threinen-Pendarvis for something in the vicinity of $35. And she seem to be an expert. I searched the same title on vIX but could not find it.

Guess I’ll have to get hold of a tablet. Tutorials on creative work does increasingly refer to tablet work. Somewhere I checked up prices and Wacom (the Rolls Royce of tablets I assume) is quite expensive.

Glad to hear you are a Painter fan as well:-)

Dave
LK
Laura K
Jan 8, 2006
:

For every 100 books on PS, I’d guess that there has
been 1 for Painter. Some of the old "Painter WOW" books are still viable, though one has to inturpret between the mechanics of the older ver and IX ( whatever).

The Painter IX WoW book was published in May of 2005, according to the Corel site which has it for sale, along with other books and training materials. http://www.corel.com/painterix/training/books.html

A search on Google turns up at least 10 pages of Painter IX tutorials: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=painter+IX+tutorial s&btnG=Google+Search
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Dave
Jan 8, 2006
On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 20:42:10 GMT, Laura K
wrote:

:

For every 100 books on PS, I’d guess that there has
been 1 for Painter. Some of the old "Painter WOW" books are still viable, though one has to inturpret between the mechanics of the older ver and IX ( whatever).

The Painter IX WoW book was published in May of 2005, according to the Corel site which has it for sale, along with other books and training materials. http://www.corel.com/painterix/training/books.html

A search on Google turns up at least 10 pages of Painter IX tutorials: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=painter+IX+tutorial s&btnG=Google+Search

1.www.paintercreativity.com
this is an ad for a book for sale.

2.http://www.artistrymag.com/
this is mostly tutorials on 7 & 8
but also on IX and all Karen Sperling’s
available tutorials is already in my archive.

3. www.corel.com/painterix/training/tutorials.html – 17k This link is available from Painters helpfile.
Only single tutorials – mostly (very useful) tips

4. www.fxguide.com/article223.html&mode=nested – 33k This is a review. Not a tutorial

5. • Includes text for Painter 5
• Includes text for Painter 6
• Includes text for Painter 7
• Includes text for Painter 8
• Includes text for Painter IX

That is the first 5.

But here is good links as well.
Only not as much as you thought –
You gave me undermore ‘Painter IX: Oil Paint Cloner Tutorial’ I’ll search further.
Thanks for it.

Dave
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Dave
Jan 8, 2006
On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:22:09 +0200, Dave wrote:

That is the first 5.

8 is a followup on 7
9 is empty and
10 says ‘Corel Painter IX Tutorial – Coming Soon’

This much for the search on Google which delivered at least 10 pages. Don’t you click on the links to investigate?

Dave
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Socius
Jan 12, 2006
In article , Dave says…

Good mornin’

it seems that there is a minimum of Corel Painter (specially on v9) tutorials on Internet. Otherwise, I am searching at the wrong places and under the wrong names. No search machine appears to be very lenient with tutorials there on.

While knowing this is of the subject for this ng, I do ask the question here ’cause many PS users (of which I am one) also make use of Corel Painter for the sake of different effects.
Although CS2 is truly a wonderful program,
it’s a known fact that Corel is still ahead re painting possibilities. I am also searching in the bookshops for a relative tutorial book without finding what I am looking for. Maybe a Internet order will be the answer.

The search is for ideas on different brushes and basically tutorials on changing photos into paintings by using
Corel Painter IX. Any help (links) will be appreciated.

Dave

Hi Dave.

Did you already check the guides by www.lynda.com?
I receive her guide for Painter 8 with a bundle by AutoFX, and now I saw that she also wrote a new guide for Painter IX.
You can see some samples here:

http://movielibrary.lynda.com/html/modPage.asp?id=124

Hope this helps.

Regards

Socius
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Dave
Jan 13, 2006
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 00:20:14 +0100, Socius
wrote:

In article , Dave says…

Good mornin’

it seems that there is a minimum of Corel Painter (specially on v9) tutorials on Internet. Otherwise, I am searching at the wrong places and under the wrong names. No search machine appears to be very lenient with tutorials there on.

While knowing this is of the subject for this ng, I do ask the question here ’cause many PS users (of which I am one) also make use of Corel Painter for the sake of different effects.
Although CS2 is truly a wonderful program,
it’s a known fact that Corel is still ahead re painting possibilities. I am also searching in the bookshops for a relative tutorial book without finding what I am looking for. Maybe a Internet order will be the answer.

The search is for ideas on different brushes and basically tutorials on changing photos into paintings by using
Corel Painter IX. Any help (links) will be appreciated.

Dave

Hi Dave.

Did you already check the guides by www.lynda.com?
I receive her guide for Painter 8 with a bundle by AutoFX, and now I saw that she also wrote a new guide for Painter IX.
You can see some samples here:

http://movielibrary.lynda.com/html/modPage.asp?id=124

Hope this helps.

Regards

Socius

Hi Socius

and thanks a lot for your reply.

No, I was not aware of her site, and opened it now,
and spent some time on her movies. You are working on
her bundle for Painter 8, so you do know her work.

I am still working on (trying to) calibrating this new 19" LCD screen in order to get trustable colors on it:-)

Thanks again therefore. It is in the morning hours now,
and I’ll be on her site this afternoon.

Dave

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