Background Masking

Julian wrote:

Russell Brown has a good tutorial on masking out a background to reveal a new image behind it-see
http://av.adobe.com/russellbrown/AdvancedMasking.mov

However, I cannot figure out how he manages to get the two images on the same Layers palette. He has the image he wants to mask on a layer called "Master Image", and below it he has the second image (featuring the background he wants) called "Background Image".
I have been trying to duplicate this with two images of my own but cannot get them to appear on the same layer.

How to do this?

Open both images in Photoshop. Make a new layer in one image. Go to the other image, select all, copy. Go back to the new layer in the first image, and paste. Voila. 🙂

You may need to resize either image to the proper proportions, but hopefully you get the idea.

Paul Mitchum wrote:

Julian wrote:

Russell Brown has a good tutorial on masking out a background to reveal a new image behind it-see
http://av.adobe.com/russellbrown/AdvancedMasking.mov

However, I cannot figure out how he manages to get the two images on the same Layers palette. He has the image he wants to mask on a layer called "Master Image", and below it he has the second image (featuring the background he wants) called "Background Image".
I have been trying to duplicate this with two images of my own but cannot get them to appear on the same layer.

How to do this?

Open both images in Photoshop. Make a new layer in one image. Go to the other image, select all, copy. Go back to the new layer in the first image, and paste. Voila. 🙂

You may need to resize either image to the proper proportions, but hopefully you get the idea.

No need to make a new layer; when you Paste a new layer is automatically created.

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In article <43ee4ae9$0$25080$>, edjh
wrote:

Paul Mitchum wrote:

Julian wrote:

Russell Brown has a good tutorial on masking out a background to reveal a new image behind it-see
http://av.adobe.com/russellbrown/AdvancedMasking.mov

However, I cannot figure out how he manages to get the two images on the same Layers palette. He has the image he wants to mask on a layer called "Master Image", and below it he has the second image (featuring the background he wants) called "Background Image".
I have been trying to duplicate this with two images of my own but cannot get them to appear on the same layer.

How to do this?

Open both images in Photoshop. Make a new layer in one image. Go to the other image, select all, copy. Go back to the new layer in the first image, and paste. Voila. 🙂

You may need to resize either image to the proper proportions, but hopefully you get the idea.

No need to make a new layer; when you Paste a new layer is automatically created.

Thanks for both suggestions. However, when I copy/paste, (or use the Move Tool) I do not get two clean images on the screen or on its Layers palette. I get a layer with the original Background with the "Master" image pasted into it. What I want to achieve is to get two ‘original’ images on the same Layers palette‹i.e. rather than having the original scenic image with a face pasted on to it. In the Russell Brown video (http://av.adobe.com/russellbrown/AdvancedMasking.mov) he has the "Master" image up on the screen (a close-up of a man in a black hat), and the accompanying Layers palette shows two clean images, his "Master Image" (the face), and below it a desert-like scene taken from the air entitled "Background Image". There is no juxtaposition of images on what is shown on the screen (a simple close-up of a man in a black hat).

Tried attaching a clip to this post but couldn’t get it to work.

Any new ideas?

Julian wrote:

In article <43ee4ae9$0$25080$>, edjh
wrote:

Paul Mitchum wrote:

Julian wrote:

Russell Brown has a good tutorial on masking out a background to reveal a new image behind it-see
http://av.adobe.com/russellbrown/AdvancedMasking.mov

However, I cannot figure out how he manages to get the two images on the same Layers palette. He has the image he wants to mask on a layer called "Master Image", and below it he has the second image (featuring the background he wants) called "Background Image".
I have been trying to duplicate this with two images of my own but cannot get them to appear on the same layer.

How to do this?

Open both images in Photoshop. Make a new layer in one image. Go to the other image, select all, copy. Go back to the new layer in the first image, and paste. Voila. 🙂

You may need to resize either image to the proper proportions, but hopefully you get the idea.

No need to make a new layer; when you Paste a new layer is automatically created.

Thanks for both suggestions. However, when I copy/paste, (or use the Move Tool) I do not get two clean images on the screen or on its Layers
palette. I get a layer with the original Background with the "Master" image pasted into it. What I want to achieve is to get two ‘original’ images on the same Layers palette > scenic image with a face pasted on to it. In the Russell Brown video
(http://av.adobe.com/russellbrown/AdvancedMasking.mov) he has the "Master" image up on the screen (a close-up of a man in a black hat), and the accompanying Layers palette shows two clean images, his "Master
Image" (the face), and below it a desert-like scene taken from the air entitled "Background Image". There is no juxtaposition of images on what is shown on the screen (a simple close-up of a man in a black hat).

Tried attaching a clip to this post but couldn’t get it to work.
Any new ideas?

Hmm, I think the "Background Image" is the one that he intends to substitute for the existing cowboy’s background. In other words, it isn’t even used until all of the masking steps have been completed. Once the mask is completed, then the background image is applied to replace the existing background. Admittedly, I haven’t viewed the video for a while, but that’s the way I seem to remember it.

In other words:
1. Here’s the cowboy image with existing background
2. Here’s the background image I would rather have
3. Here’s how to create the mask (using _only_ the cowboy image)
4. Here’s the finished image with my background replacing the original (at
which point it would appear in the layers palette of the combined image)

Is that it?

Julian wrote:

In article <43ee4ae9$0$25080$>, edjh
wrote:

Paul Mitchum wrote:

Julian wrote:

Russell Brown has a good tutorial on masking out a background to reveal a new image behind it-see
http://av.adobe.com/russellbrown/AdvancedMasking.mov

However, I cannot figure out how he manages to get the two images on the same Layers palette. He has the image he wants to mask on a layer called "Master Image", and below it he has the second image (featuring the background he wants) called "Background Image".
I have been trying to duplicate this with two images of my own but cannot get them to appear on the same layer.

How to do this?

Open both images in Photoshop. Make a new layer in one image. Go to the other image, select all, copy. Go back to the new layer in the first image, and paste. Voila. 🙂

You may need to resize either image to the proper proportions, but hopefully you get the idea.

No need to make a new layer; when you Paste a new layer is automatically created.

Thanks for both suggestions. However, when I copy/paste, (or use the Move Tool) I do not get two clean images on the screen or on its Layers palette. I get a layer with the original Background with the "Master" image pasted into it. [..]

Then you’re not following the directions. 🙂

Julian wrote:
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Any new ideas?

The only way to have two images on the layers palette is for them to be in the same document. The layers palette is specific to the current (active) document only.

If another image window is shown, that is beside the point. Just means that window wasn’t closed yet.

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In article <49594$43ef7a24$453da8a9$>, Scott Glasgow wrote:

Julian wrote:

In article <43ee4ae9$0$25080$>, edjh
wrote:

Paul Mitchum wrote:

Julian wrote:

Russell Brown has a good tutorial on masking out a background to reveal a new image behind it-see
http://av.adobe.com/russellbrown/AdvancedMasking.mov

However, I cannot figure out how he manages to get the two images on the same Layers palette. He has the image he wants to mask on a layer called "Master Image", and below it he has the second image (featuring the background he wants) called "Background Image".
I have been trying to duplicate this with two images of my own but cannot get them to appear on the same layer.

How to do this?

Open both images in Photoshop. Make a new layer in one image. Go to the other image, select all, copy. Go back to the new layer in the first image, and paste. Voila. 🙂

You may need to resize either image to the proper proportions, but hopefully you get the idea.

No need to make a new layer; when you Paste a new layer is automatically created.

Thanks for both suggestions. However, when I copy/paste, (or use the Move Tool) I do not get two clean images on the screen or on its Layers
palette. I get a layer with the original Background with the "Master" image pasted into it. What I want to achieve is to get two ‘original’ images on the same Layers palette > scenic image with a face pasted on to it. In the Russell Brown video
(http://av.adobe.com/russellbrown/AdvancedMasking.mov) he has the "Master" image up on the screen (a close-up of a man in a black hat), and the accompanying Layers palette shows two clean images, his "Master
Image" (the face), and below it a desert-like scene taken from the air entitled "Background Image". There is no juxtaposition of images on what is shown on the screen (a simple close-up of a man in a black hat).

Tried attaching a clip to this post but couldn’t get it to work.
Any new ideas?

Hmm, I think the "Background Image" is the one that he intends to substitute for the existing cowboy’s background. In other words, it isn’t even used until all of the masking steps have been completed. Once the mask is completed, then the background image is applied to replace the existing background. Admittedly, I haven’t viewed the video for a while, but that’s the way I seem to remember it.

In other words:
1. Here’s the cowboy image with existing background
2. Here’s the background image I would rather have
3. Here’s how to create the mask (using _only_ the cowboy image)
4. Here’s the finished image with my background replacing the original (at
which point it would appear in the layers palette of the combined image)
Is that it?

Thanks Scott. Yes, he starts off showing two "snapshots" in the Levels palette, one with the cowboy on the final (desired) background, the other with the original (gray) background. However, he then starts his explanation with, "Let’s continue and start this process. I’m going to go here to my Layers Palette…" He clicks to reveal his Layers palette with TWO images on it, his "Master Image" (the cowboy on a gray background), and his "Background Image" (the scene he wishes to substitute). He then selects the Master layer and switches to the Channels palette (to exhibit the four channels of the cowboy/gray background).

It is this that I don’t get.

Do you?

Julian wrote:

However, he then starts his explanation with, "Let’s continue and start this process. I’m going to go here to my Layers Palette…" He clicks to reveal his Layers palette with TWO images on it, his "Master Image" (the cowboy on a gray background), and his "Background Image" (the scene he wishes to substitute). He then selects the Master layer and switches to the Channels palette (to exhibit the four channels of the cowboy/gray background).

It is this that I don’t get.

Do you?

Like I said before:

Open both images in Photoshop. Select all on one. Copy. Go to the other. Make a new layer. Select it. Paste.

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says…

Russell Brown has a good tutorial on masking out a background to reveal a new image behind it

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Julian wrote:

He clicks to reveal his Layers palette
with TWO images on it, his "Master Image" (the cowboy on a gray background), and his "Background Image" (the scene he wishes to substitute). He then selects the Master layer and switches to the Channels palette (to exhibit the four channels of the cowboy/gray background).

It is this that I don’t get.

You have been given several replies that explain several ways to do this.

Let us call your images Picture 1 and Picture 2.

Open Picture 1 in Photoshop.
Open Picture 2 in Photoshop. You now have two pictures open in Photoshop. Arrange the two pictures so that they are side by side.
Click on the Move tool in the Toolbar.
Drag Picture 1 into Picture 2’s window using the Move tool. Easy as that.

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(Paul Mitchum) wrote:

Open both images in Photoshop. Select all on one. Copy. Go to the other. Make a new layer. Select it. Paste.

Do not make a new layer; this is an unnecessary step that will be confusing. If you make a new layer, you will end up with THREE layers, not two.

The Paste command makes a new layer automatically.

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tacit wrote:

In article <130220060945351812%>,
Julian wrote:

He clicks to reveal his Layers palette
with TWO images on it, his "Master Image" (the cowboy on a gray background), and his "Background Image" (the scene he wishes to substitute). He then selects the Master layer and switches to the Channels palette (to exhibit the four channels of the cowboy/gray background).

It is this that I don’t get.

You have been given several replies that explain several ways to do this.
Let us call your images Picture 1 and Picture 2.

Open Picture 1 in Photoshop.
Open Picture 2 in Photoshop. You now have two pictures open in Photoshop. Arrange the two pictures so that they are side by side.
Click on the Move tool in the Toolbar.
Drag Picture 1 into Picture 2’s window using the Move tool. Easy as that.

Thanks Tacit and all of you. As I mentioned in the other PS group, I proceeded correctly, but got thrown off balance when my ‘face’ did not completely cover my ‘background’ (as it does in the tutorial). Of course that occurred because my ‘face’ image was dimensionally smaller than my ‘background’ image.

Duh!!!