An apology and a few points esp Scott

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Feb 15, 2006
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Thank you for your replies to both of my questions sorry to confuse matters by posting twice to what is in fact the same subject but I posted the edit "text on gif" thread first and it did not show up on my newsgroups so posted the other thread "How do I do this" I was not aware that I had hijacked my post until now. That was not my intention. In your replies you have answered with a "Come on don’t be so stupid" type attitude. Firstly my main useage of photoshop has been for editing images such as photographs from my digi camera and like to think I know a bit on this subject. Making button gifs however is not something I am au fait with and asked for some advice pure and simple. I appreciate you have given me an answer to both my threads and I will try to make use of that advice. My post about tutorials expecting you to be conversant in all aspects of a subject still stands. For me if you are going to write a tutorial why not explain it properly by that I mean explain each step? Anyway I hope we have things on a good footing now, please excuse my ignorance of a topic that is probably very easy to you all I only want a little help. To top it all I once made a button dont for the life of me remember how I did it but would like to reproduce that button but without the text. The text can be added individually later. I am thinking the image is flattened so the text will become a part of that image. The button has a gradient in colour in as much as it goes from blue to black and think there will be a problem sampling it. If someone has the time and would be helpful enough I can send the gif and maybe they could look at it and tell me how to reproduce it?
Regards.
mel

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KatWoman
Feb 15, 2006
"Melv" wrote in message
Thank you for your replies to both of my questions sorry to confuse matters
by posting twice to what is in fact the same subject but I posted the edit "text on gif" thread first and it did not show up on my newsgroups so posted
the other thread "How do I do this" I was not aware that I had hijacked my post until now. That was not my intention. In your replies you have answered
with a "Come on don’t be so stupid" type attitude. Firstly my main useage of
photoshop has been for editing images such as photographs from my digi camera and like to think I know a bit on this subject. Making button gifs however is not something I am au fait with and asked for some advice pure and simple. I appreciate you have given me an answer to both my threads and
I will try to make use of that advice. My post about tutorials expecting you
to be conversant in all aspects of a subject still stands. For me if you are
going to write a tutorial why not explain it properly by that I mean explain
each step? Anyway I hope we have things on a good footing now, please excuse
my ignorance of a topic that is probably very easy to you all I only want a
little help. To top it all I once made a button dont for the life of me remember how I did it but would like to reproduce that button but without the text. The text can be added individually later. I am thinking the image
is flattened so the text will become a part of that image. The button has a
gradient in colour in as much as it goes from blue to black and think there
will be a problem sampling it. If someone has the time and would be helpful
enough I can send the gif and maybe they could look at it and tell me how to
reproduce it?
Regards.
mel
it is fully explained step by step in the tutorial you posted also someone directed you to the location of the proper tools required (small f at bottom of layers palette)
you get a slash sign if you are trying to work on a background or text layer or if you are in the wrong mode, check those things and proceed.
SG
Scott Glasgow
Feb 15, 2006
Melv wrote:
Thank you for your replies to both of my questions sorry to confuse matters by posting twice to what is in fact the same subject but I posted the edit "text on gif" thread first and it did not show up on my newsgroups so posted the other thread "How do I do this" I was not aware that I had hijacked my post until now. That was not my intention.

The reason that the "text on gif" thread didn’t show up in the newsgroup after you posted it is precisely what I was telling you in my message. If you reply to a thread and change the subject line it is STILL threaded under your original subject, "hide faces." So, when you’re scanning the group for your message you will NOT find it unless you open the thread that you hijacked. The "How do I do this" thread had nothing to do with it and is not even involved.

In your replies you have answered with a "Come on don’t be
so stupid" type attitude.

Well, not really. Stating that the creation of a button was one of the most mundane activities one could undertake in Photoshop and suggesting that you recreate the original was actually very restrained and a constructive suggestion, as well as being the truth. Mel, this is the Usenet, not Yahoo! Groups. No one is here to make sure you don’t get your feelings hurt, and nobody really gives a damn if they are. Responses can range from overtly sympathetic (unlikely), to straightforwardly neutral, to brutally honest, to openly hostile and ridiculing, and _anywhere_ along that continuum. It’s the nature of Usenet. IMO, I felt that my response fit in the spectrum somewhere between neutral and honest. If you will note, following the statement in question I did go into considerable detail about how to do what you wanted to do, reuse the original image while replacing the text. This was an act of neither hostility nor ridicule, but rather an attempt to address your problem.

Firstly my main useage of photoshop has
been for editing images such as photographs from my digi camera and like to think I know a bit on this subject. Making button gifs however is not something I am au fait with and asked for some advice pure and simple. I appreciate you have given me an answer to both my threads and I will try to make use of that advice. My post about tutorials expecting you to be conversant in all aspects of a subject still stands.

Surprising, considering that it has no legs. Tutorials do NOT expect this. If they did, what would be the point of making a bloody tutorial to begin with, eh? I’ll say again what I said before, "No, they don’t presume that you are a know all. They do presume, however, at least a nodding acquaintance with the workspace and user interface. There are fundamentals tutorials which teach the very basic elements of PS such as this… "

For me if you are going to write a tutorial why not
explain it properly by that I mean explain each step?

Consider what you are saying. Tutorials range from the very basic (such as the fundamentals tutorials mentioned above) to the very, very advanced, containing detailed steps addressing the specific advanced process under discussion. At some point there must be a level of understanding which is assumed going into the tutorial. Otherwise you end up with something like

HOW TO DO LAUNDRY
1. Unbutton top shirt button
2. Repeat step 1 until shirtfront is open
3. Slide left shoulder of shirt over and down arm until shirt is released on that side
4. Repeat with right shoulder
5. Place shirt in hamper
6. Slide end of belt through keeper loop
7. Push belt through buckle backward
8. Pull back on belt end until buckle hook disengages
9. Pull belt end through buckle until free
10. Grasp buckle end and pull belt out through pant loops 11. Unbutton pant waist button
…. etc.
389. Place quarters into machine
390. Set temperature
391. Set fabric type
392. Set timer
393. Walk away
394. Wait

See the point. Complex tutorials have to set a minimum expected level of understanding, and I submit that expecting one to at least have a basic knowledge of the workspace and user interface is about as reasonable as it comes. When you were in, say, the third or fourth grade, and were shown how to work a long division problem, did they start with, "Here are the Arabic numerals. These are their weighted values. Here’s how you add and subtract?" No? Of course not. There was a basic presumption going in about your already attained level of understanding. That is exactly the situation with respect to tutorials. To keep a three (Web) page tutorial from running to 40 pages, they tell you what you need to do, presuming that you already have the basic understanding of how the interface works. That is as it should be. If you don’t, then you need aim at tutorials a little lower in the complexity spectrum before you try to tackle the more difficult ones.

Anyway I hope
we have things on a good footing now, please excuse my ignorance of a topic that is probably very easy to you all I only want a little help. To top it all I once made a button dont for the life of me remember how I did it but would like to reproduce that button but without the text. The text can be added individually later. I am thinking the image is flattened so the text will become a part of that image. The button has a gradient in colour in as much as it goes from blue to black and think there will be a problem sampling it. If someone has the time and would be helpful enough I can send the gif and maybe they could look at it and tell me how to reproduce it?

I told you in Step three of my response to the "text on gif" question exactly how to reuse your existing gif and create a textless master that you could use repeatedly to create whatever buttons you want. Have you not read it (remember, it’s hidden under your "hide faces" thread) or are you simply ignoring it?

Cheers,
Scott

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