photoshop wannabe-newbie

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I would like to start using a program primarily to design graphics for my website and as a secondary purpose to edit photographs. Is photoshop the best program for this? In looking at the adobe web site and others photoshop is priced at $700 US. At this price the cost seems prohibitive. Is thier any cheaper way to start??

Any advice appreciated.

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edjh
Jul 12, 2003
dholmes wrote:
I would like to start using a program primarily to design graphics for my website and as a secondary purpose to edit photographs. Is photoshop the best program for this? In looking at the adobe web site and others photoshop is priced at $700 US. At this price the cost seems prohibitive. Is thier any cheaper way to start??

Any advice appreciated.
PaintShop Pro or Photoshop Elements to name a couple of alternatives.


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Robert Dennis
Jul 12, 2003
Check out prices for the software at places like amazon.com or pricewatch.com. They’ll be cheaper than going directly to Adobe. With PS you’ll also get Image Ready which will let you author your web pages.

There’s also Macromedia Studio which gives you Dreamweaver, Flash, Fireworks, and Freehand. Plenty of firepower there to author web content. Although it lacks a lot of the photo editing you’d find in PS- if the web’s your final output, look to Macromedia. Again check the above sources, among others- rather than the manufacturer for the software.

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"dholmes" wrote in message
I would like to start using a program primarily to design graphics for my website and as a secondary purpose to edit photographs. Is photoshop the best program for this? In looking at the adobe web site and others photoshop is priced at $700 US. At this price the cost seems prohibitive. Is thier any cheaper way to start??

Any advice appreciated.

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Warren Sarle
Jul 12, 2003
"dholmes" wrote in message
I would like to start using a program primarily to design graphics for my website and as a secondary purpose to edit photographs. Is photoshop the best program for this?

For editing photos, yes.

In looking at the adobe web site and others
photoshop is priced at $700 US. At this price the cost seems prohibitive. Is thier any cheaper way to start??

Go to http://www.nextag.com and search for Photoshop 7. You can get it for under $500.

As others have pointed out, Photoshop Elements and various other good image editing programs cost less than $100. Whether you need the full- blown Photoshop depends on what specifically you want to do in the way of web graphics and image editing.
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Richard Dunlop-Walters
Jul 12, 2003
That particular option depends on whether you want to stay legal or not ๐Ÿ™‚ You could give the GiMP a go, it’s free from www.gimp.org can take a whil to get used to as it’s a Linux port, but then again, so will Photoshop.

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Is thier any cheaper way to start??

Any advice appreciated.
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Hecate
Jul 13, 2003
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 00:21:00 GMT, "dholmes"
wrote:

I would like to start using a program primarily to design graphics for my website and as a secondary purpose to edit photographs. Is photoshop the best program for this? In looking at the adobe web site and others photoshop is priced at $700 US. At this price the cost seems prohibitive. Is thier any cheaper way to start??

Depends what you mean by graphics. If you mean photos, and if almost entirely for the web, you’d be best of with Dreamweaver and Fireworks (DW for the site and FW for the graphics). Or you can get a good deal on the Macromedia Suite which would give you Flash and Freehand as well and would then include vector graphics which you can convert to jpgs of gifs when finished.

If you mean graphics as in vector images, then Freehand or Illustrator would be best.

However, you can also buy the CorelDraw Suite which would give you Corel Draw and PhotoPaint and some useful utilities like Corel trace. And for a lot less than PS, though without the power. But, for what you’re saying would be perfect.

So:

Vector graphics standalone – Freehand or Illustrator (Freehand is my fave at the moment)

Web packages: Macromedia

Drawing and Photo manipulation: Corel Draw.

You pays your money and you takes your pick!

(or should that be pic?)

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myJanee
Jul 14, 2003
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I would like to start using a program primarily to design graphics for my website and as a secondary purpose to edit photographs. Is photoshop the best program for this? In looking at the adobe web site and others photoshop is priced at $700 US. At this price the cost seems prohibitive. Is thier any cheaper way to start??

Any advice appreciated.

Hi there, dholmes!
I advise you to go out and get Photoshop Elements 2.0. It can be found for under $100 USD, sometimes considerably less, with rebates and such.

There is much to like about Elements, but probably the main thing is that it is soooo much like Photoshop! If you get Elements and find that you are "growing out of it," like.. if you decide that you really do want to do prepress work, or want some of Photoshop’s other features, then Elements will have provided you with an excellent introductory course in Photoshop! The interface is practically identical and your processes are nearly the same. Go for Elements!
Always me, Janee


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If you like my answers or my website, you may want to have a look at my books! Photoshop Elements 2: Most Wanted, PS 7: Professional Photographic Techniques, and PS 7: Trade Secrets. Read about them at http://www.myjanee.com/graphiccreations/publications.htm
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"pioe[rmv]"
Jul 14, 2003
dholmes wrote:

I would like to start using a program primarily to design graphics for my website and as a secondary purpose to edit photographs. Is photoshop the best program for this? In looking at the adobe web site and others photoshop is priced at $700 US. At this price the cost seems prohibitive. Is thier any cheaper way to start??

If pure photo editing is what you primarily want, then Corel PhotoPaint is practically equal to Photoshop. PhotoPaint’s sharpening filters are very sophisticated. As a whole the program does not have all the bells and whistles for publishing as Photoshop, but for photographs it is far, far superior to Photoshop’s "little brother" Elements. Many recommend Elements, but it is not suitable for serious work. It lacks a Curve tool, and even worse, it does not support 16-bit files.

A high-quality scanner or digital camera will give you 16-bit output, and this will enable you to adjust the color and contrast of your images to your heart’s content. By using 16-bit color TIFF files (in the case of a digital camera ofte extracted from a RAW format) you can get brilliant pictures even from severely underexposed images, and you will avoid many burned-out highlights. Therefore you will need a program that can handle 16-bit if you are serious about photographs.

Paint Shop Pro is often suggested too, but that also lack 16-bit support. So for high quality it seems you have to choose between Photoshop and PhotoPaint from Corel. The latter is a part of the Corel Graphics suite, and is top notch. In my country it costs $550 and it is not likely to be cheap where you live either, so you might want to save for that solution. If Photoshop is what you want you had better hurry, because Adobe wants to introduce Product Activation on their coming versions, making the program forever dependent on the manufacturer. It may take years before the market, and in particular competition from Open Source programs, forces them to abandon PA, so if you really want Photoshop – buy it now and stay with it.

Do not forget Linux either. If you use Linux, you may use a combination between Filmgimp/Cinepaint and GIMP. Filmgimp handles 16-bit color so you can do your color, levels and contrast adjustments there, and then you can perform the final touch in GIMP which has better sharpening filters in addition to layers and other niceties. (Sharpening must be done as the last step irrespective of what program you use, in case you did not know.)


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Dynamite
Jul 14, 2003
Where can one get PS 8??? I see nothing on their website about PS 8 being out. Please help me.

From everything I have heard, it was not supposed to be out till later this year, beginning of next year.

Thx!

I suggest Paintshop Pro 8. I have PSP 7 but 8 is out now. I also have PS 6. But to start out, I do suggest PSP 8.

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Chen Xian Wen
Jul 15, 2003
By the way,what’s the difference between ps element and ps standard?



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Chen Xian Wen
Jul 16, 2003
Thank you.



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"Hecate"
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On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:54:35 +0800, "Chen Xian Wen" wrote:

By the way,what’s the difference between ps element and ps standard?

Elements is a sort of beginners version with a lot more hand-holding and with a lot of the printing facilities removed.

Basically, it’s about 80% of PS at about (at least in the UK) a tenth of the price. ๐Ÿ™‚



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"pioe[rmv]"
Jul 16, 2003
Hecate wrote:

Basically, it’s about 80% of PS at about (at least in the UK) a tenth of the price. ๐Ÿ™‚

Among the things dropped in Elements are the Curve Tool and the 16-bit color support, both central to serious image editing.


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