Newbie Printing 6×4 photos Problem

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Aug 27, 2006
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I have P.S. 7 and am attempting to produce 6 in X 4 in prints from my digital files using P.S. 7

I perform the following actions in P.S.:-

1. Rotate image as required
2.Change Image Size : Constrain Proportions is ticked but "greyed" Resample Image is unticked
Resolution changed from 72 pixels/inch to
300 pixels /inch
3. Picture is now reduced to 5.12inches wide and 6.827 inches deep
4. Select crop tool – this is preset to 4in Wide and 6 in Depth
5 Left click and arrange cropped area as required.
6. Select "CROP"
7 Area produced is 4 inches wide (O.K.!) but is less than 6 ins Deep ! – WHY /

N.B. Area shown is 6 inched deep but the photo details stop just above 5 ins deep and the remainder is blank white .

B.N..



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Tony Blair
Aug 27, 2006
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I have P.S. 7 and am attempting to produce 6 in X 4 in prints from my digital files using P.S. 7

If you have a preset crop tool of 6 x 4" (you can set the resolution of this tool as required and save as a new crop tool) Then you can cut out all the other steps you take other than rotating, and just use the crop tool to get the part of the image you want, the resultant crop will be 6×4" at 240dpi or whatever!

In other words – rotate – crop – print!! nothing else
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nomail
Aug 27, 2006
Harry Limey wrote:

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I have P.S. 7 and am attempting to produce 6 in X 4 in prints from my digital files using P.S. 7

If you have a preset crop tool of 6 x 4" (you can set the resolution of this tool as required and save as a new crop tool) Then you can cut out all the other steps you take other than rotating, and just use the crop tool to get the part of the image you want, the resultant crop will be 6×4" at 240dpi or whatever!

In other words – rotate – crop – print!! nothing else

That’s a dangerous advise. If you crop a too small area with these settings, Photoshop will interpolate the cropped area to get to the size and resolution you’ve set in the crop tool. You don’t want that!


Johan W. Elzenga johan<<at>>johanfoto.nl Editor / Photographer http://www.johanfoto.nl
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Helen
Aug 27, 2006
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I have P.S. 7 and am attempting to produce 6 in X 4 in prints from my digital files using P.S. 7

I perform the following actions in P.S.:-

1. Rotate image as required

Why? The printer doesn’t know if it’s the right way up or on its side.
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Tony Blair
Aug 27, 2006
"Johan W. Elzenga" wrote in message
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That’s a dangerous advise. If you crop a too small area with these settings, Photoshop will interpolate the cropped area to get to the size and resolution you’ve set in the crop tool. You don’t want that!


Johan W. Elzenga johan<<at>>johanfoto.nl Editor / Photographer http://www.johanfoto.nl

Not sure why you think this advice is dangerous! If you use the crop presets in Photoshop they are all set to 300 ppi so as long as you are not reducing the ppi there should be no noticeable loss of quality.
Presumably Adobe set them up with those defaults for a reason?
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nomail
Aug 27, 2006
Harry Limey wrote:

"Johan W. Elzenga" wrote in message
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That’s a dangerous advise. If you crop a too small area with these settings, Photoshop will interpolate the cropped area to get to the size and resolution you’ve set in the crop tool. You don’t want that!

Not sure why you think this advice is dangerous! If you use the crop presets in Photoshop they are all set to 300 ppi so as long as you are not reducing the ppi there should be no noticeable loss of quality.
Presumably Adobe set them up with those defaults for a reason?

Try this: Open a new document with a size of 4.5 x 6.5 inch and 300 ppi. Set your crop tool to 4 x 6 inch and 300 ppi. Crop a VERY SMALL piece of that document, a piece that is clearly smaller than 4 x 6 inch. You will see that Photoshop allows you to do that, but the final cropped area will be interpolated to 4 x 6 inch at 300 ppi. That’s why this advise is dangerous. You could crop too much and then you would loose quality without realising what you are doing.


Johan W. Elzenga johan<<at>>johanfoto.nl Editor / Photographer http://www.johanfoto.nl
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Tony Blair
Aug 27, 2006
"Johan W. Elzenga" wrote in message
Harry Limey wrote:

"Johan W. Elzenga" wrote in message
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That’s a dangerous advise. If you crop a too small area with these settings, Photoshop will interpolate the cropped area to get to the size
and resolution you’ve set in the crop tool. You don’t want that!

Not sure why you think this advice is dangerous! If you use the crop presets
in Photoshop they are all set to 300 ppi so as long as you are not reducing
the ppi there should be no noticeable loss of quality.
Presumably Adobe set them up with those defaults for a reason?

Try this: Open a new document with a size of 4.5 x 6.5 inch and 300 ppi. Set your crop tool to 4 x 6 inch and 300 ppi. Crop a VERY SMALL piece of that document, a piece that is clearly smaller than 4 x 6 inch. You will see that Photoshop allows you to do that, but the final cropped area will be interpolated to 4 x 6 inch at 300 ppi. That’s why this advise is dangerous. You could crop too much and then you would loose quality without realising what you are doing.

Johan W. Elzenga johan<<at>>johanfoto.nl Editor / Photographer http://www.johanfoto.nl

It had never occurred to me that anyone would do something like that! and having checked the Photoshop help files and manuals (Scott Kelby too) I don’t think it had occurred to them either!
In that case I suppose you are right to point out the dangers!

Harry
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Roy G
Aug 28, 2006
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I have P.S. 7 and am attempting to produce 6 in X 4 in prints from my digital files using P.S. 7

I perform the following actions in P.S.:-

1. Rotate image as required
2.Change Image Size : Constrain Proportions is ticked but "greyed" Resample Image is unticked
Resolution changed from 72 pixels/inch to
300 pixels /inch
3. Picture is now reduced to 5.12inches wide and 6.827 inches deep
4. Select crop tool – this is preset to 4in Wide and 6 in Depth
5 Left click and arrange cropped area as required.
6. Select "CROP"
7 Area produced is 4 inches wide (O.K.!) but is less than 6 ins Deep ! – WHY /

N.B. Area shown is 6 inched deep but the photo details stop just above 5 ins deep and the remainder is blank white .

B.N..
Hi.

This may be a very stupid question, but I will ask it.

When you say "arrange crop area as required" is all of the Crop rectangle within the edges of the picture?

What do you mean by "select crop"? I and most others, I know, always just double click within the Crop rectangle.

Roy G

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