Whilst a bit slow

"BoilerBill" wrote in message

I have been lurking and occasionally showing my head up in here for some time and learned a lot, for which I thank the regulars.
I was asked what a person with my background, presumably as a hairy a’d heavy engineer:-), was doing here and I happily tried to explain the background.

Now if anyone is interested in having a look at my pictorial output (OK to slag the work off, especially if constructive) I usually do a sunday post in alt.binaries.images.vintage-engineering

The post this week is a tour round HMS Warrior, the first ironclad battleship. If your server has any retention, last weeks was HMS Victory which had a bit of a time of it a few years back off a place called Trafalgar

Keith J Chesworth (BoilerBill)
www.boilerbill.com – CV – now needing a job!!
www.unseenlondon.co.uk
www.blackpooltram.co.uk
www.amerseyferry.co.uk

Hi.

I have had a look at your sites, and while most of the pics are not the best, there are quite a few which demostrate that you do have an eye for a picture.

Technically they nearly all let you down. The colours are dull, and exposure is generally a bit under. I don’t know what kind of camera you are using, but I think trying to avoid including as much sky would get the exposure on the main subject up a bit.

A touch of brightening and contrast in Post would also help. In Curves use the Highlight (White) Eyedropper to select the very brightest part of the image to become White, and the black one on the very deepest shadow.

Think about using Colour as more than just a minor appendage of your subject. Actually try using the Colour as the Subject.

You do seem to have difficulty with getting verticals vertical. If you want the pic to lean over, then really tilt it, don’t just do it so it looks as if you meant it to be level..

A lot of the above are common problems for beginners, but if you want to get good, then you really have to look at your own work and try to work out why it should be binned, or (better) what you should have done to make it good.

It is miles better to do that for yourself, than just to follow the opinions of grumpy old gits like me. You don’t want to end up taking pictures like mine, do you?

I said binned (up above), only because most good photographers are very carefull about what is shown. They are often only considered Good because of the amount of stuff they bin before anyone sees it.

Remember those things you thought of, when you are next out taking pictures and really try to apply them. Even if you take your first shot of a subject like you always do, have another go, and try to apply one or more of your own new "rules".

Progress in photography is not an upward slope, it is an upward staircase, with lots of steps.

If you try you will suddenly find some of your stuff has become much better. Then suddenly again, nearly everything has reached that standard, except one or two have moved up another few steps. etc. etc.

Roy G

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Hi.

I have had a look at your sites, and while most of the pics are not the best, there are quite a few which demostrate that you do have an eye for a picture.

Technically they nearly all let you down. The colours are dull, and exposure is generally a bit under. I don’t know what kind of camera you are using, but I think trying to avoid including as much sky would get the exposure on the main subject up a bit.

A touch of brightening and contrast in Post would also help. In Curves use the Highlight (White) Eyedropper to select the very brightest part of the image to become White, and the black one on the very deepest shadow.
Think about using Colour as more than just a minor appendage of your subject. Actually try using the Colour as the Subject.

You do seem to have difficulty with getting verticals vertical. If you want the pic to lean over, then really tilt it, don’t just do it so it looks as if you meant it to be level..

A lot of the above are common problems for beginners, but if you want to get good, then you really have to look at your own work and try to work out why it should be binned, or (better) what you should have done to make it good.
It is miles better to do that for yourself, than just to follow the opinions of grumpy old gits like me. You don’t want to end up taking pictures like mine, do you?

I said binned (up above), only because most good photographers are very carefull about what is shown. They are often only considered Good because of the amount of stuff they bin before anyone sees it.

Remember those things you thought of, when you are next out taking pictures and really try to apply them. Even if you take your first shot of a subject like you always do, have another go, and try to apply one or more of your own new "rules".

Progress in photography is not an upward slope, it is an upward staircase, with lots of steps.

If you try you will suddenly find some of your stuff has become much better. Then suddenly again, nearly everything has reached that standard, except one or two have moved up another few steps. etc. etc.

Roy G

Thanks for the comments!!

Much appreciated.

Actually I was pointing at the posting of recent work in vintage-engineering.

The sites are anything up to 12years old (parts of unseenlondon) and were taken by a first generation D Camera, then a 1.4MPa Olympus.

Some of the later stuff especially in the amerseyferry site were taken using a 4MPa Olympus 450 Zoom.

This is the camera I have at the moment and which I take the individual pictures I use to make up the panoramic pictures in the postings

K
www.boilerbill.com – CV – now needing a job!!
www.unseenlondon.co.uk
www.blackpooltram.co.uk
www.amerseyferry.co.uk

"BoilerBill" wrote in message

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Thanks for the comments!!

Much appreciated.

Actually I was pointing at the posting of recent work in vintage-engineering.

The sites are anything up to 12years old (parts of unseenlondon) and were taken by a first generation D Camera, then a 1.4MPa Olympus.
Some of the later stuff especially in the amerseyferry site were taken using a 4MPa Olympus 450 Zoom.

This is the camera I have at the moment and which I take the individual pictures I use to make up the panoramic pictures in the postings

K
www.boilerbill.com – CV – now needing a job!!
www.unseenlondon.co.uk
www.blackpooltram.co.uk
www.amerseyferry.co.uk

Sorry about that.

Thats what I get for not bothering about EXIF.

I told you I was an old git.

Roy G

On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 17:58:33 GMT, "Roy G"
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"BoilerBill" wrote in message

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Sorry about that.

Thats what I get for not bothering about EXIF.

I told you I was an old git.

Roy G

Having just formally joined the coffin dodgers’ club, albeit a bit early, (just forced to retire) I know the feeling 🙂

K
www.boilerbill.com – CV – now needing a job!!
www.unseenlondon.co.uk
www.blackpooltram.co.uk
www.amerseyferry.co.uk