Warping Text around a Circle

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James_Sekely
Jul 27, 2004
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I would like to Warp Text around a circle while trying to keep letter oriented normal to the cricle. Is this possible in Photoshop? Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks,

Jim

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BobLevine
Jul 27, 2004
Possible in Photoshop CS. In earlier versions you’ll need a plugin, you’ll need to do it one letter at a time or you’ll need to do it in Illustrator or CorelDRAW and bring that into Photoshop.

Bob
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Gabriel_Ayala
Jul 27, 2004
Excuse me but what is text warping? I’ve never seen this or heard of it. Does it mean skew or???

I thought that James may well have meant wrapping except I can spot that the topic not only has the a and r reversed but there is no double p. Also the word warp is used yet again in the post so I’m going to pitch out the possibility that the word was misspelled.
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James_Sekely
Jul 27, 2004
I modified Photoshop’s wording slightly. Photoshop calls the command "Warp Text". I would have stated it as wrapping text, but I thought it would be more appropriate to use the Photoshop command wording.

Jim
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BobLevine
Jul 27, 2004
Warping and wrapping are two different things. Warping reshapes the text to fit an area. Wrapping actually means the text will flow normally around objects.

What I think you’re really after is text on a path. Warping has been available since PS 6.0. Text on a path is available in Photoshop CS, though not as powerful as Illustrator’s features.

Text wrapping needs to be done manually.

Bob
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Gabriel_Ayala
Jul 27, 2004
Warping has been available since PS 6.0.

I tried finding it on my Photoshop version 5.5 here. That’s why I couldn’t find it.

So James, you want to do text wrapping?

What may I ask are you working on? Is this a flyer, movie poster or ?
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Gabriel_Ayala
Jul 27, 2004
James,

It can be done with Photoshop but you are much better off doing this in another application that is further up in the food chain when it comes to typesetting. I usually do my page layouts with InDesign.

If you have other applications available you should use them. Photoshop is really meant for working on photos not page layouts.

If the only thing available is Photoshop, go ahead and work with that however keep in mind that despite the fact that Photoshop has type tools offered, it’s not the perfect application to do this type of work in. In addition, be aware that doing your work in this approach could mean you’re slaying a great deal of time in creating things, print time, disk space and your workflow is going to be awful. You’ll see hatred from print shops when you bring your projects to them and you may end up thinking that they don’t know what they are talking about because you are using “professional” software.

If you would like to become skilled at graphic design and desktop publishing I propose you learn how to use the other programs out there that are prepared for each specific task.

As you can see, Bob has already pointed out that Illustrator has more powerful features in this area. Illustrator is also one of the best programs made for creating logos and such. Adobe has made it painfully obvious what each program is made for by giving each gizmo a name that describes what it does. Photoshop is like a photo re-touching lab. Illustrator is for illustration. InDesign is for designing page layouts ect. PageMaker does the same as InDesign but it’s the prehistoric version of the program. Streamline is a good program for scanning sketches and translates them into vector art in Illustrator.

Bottom line, you are going to need to either do this one letter at a time or save your photo background and bring it into a program for page layouts and do the typesetting there.

HTH
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BobLevine
Jul 27, 2004
Gabrial, again you’re using PS 5.5. There is nothing wrong with the CS text engine. In fact, it’s quite good, though limited in flexibility.

Saving as PDF from Photoshop will yield excellent results and no modern printer will have a problem with it.

Bob
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Gabriel_Ayala
Jul 27, 2004
There is nothing wrong with the CS text engine.

Bob, I don’t think there is something wrong with the CS text engine. This is only my personal opinion but I think there is something wrong with creating page layouts in Photoshop. I used to work in a place where customers would bring us their projects for printing and would get angry at us for taking so long to print them out or problems they had with the pamphlet, article, newsletter or whatever.

Here is an example of the typical situation:

A client walks in and wants a “simple” 2 copies printed out of a layout in 11X17, 2 up, double sided printing. The entire thing is in a PSD raw format. First of all I had to rasterize everything since they failed to save the fonts to the disk. Secondly they needed this done 20 minutes before they walked in the door. Then they get angry me and say that I don’t know how to do 5h1t because the RIP is taking so long. It’s my fault that they created and saved this in Photoshop in 300 DPI.

Another one I love is when they save all their pages as high res JPG images and expect this to print faster (as in yesterday) because the files all total out to be only about 2 MB on disk. Unfortunately for me the clients don’t understand that a JPG is a compressed image and will decompress during the RIP. Who gets the blame? The idiot desktop publisher that doesn’t know how to print simple JPGs that’s who.

My attempt is to prevent James from ending up like all those people I had to deal with that save everything in Photoshop and think because Photoshop can do anything Photoshop is the software to use for everything.
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BobLevine
Jul 27, 2004
Nobody asked about pagelayouts. The question was about some simple text effects. I know you want to help, but you’re using an ancient version of Photoshop and I’m requesting that you stop posting things that you know nothing about.

Posting misinformation is worse than posting nothing at all.

Bob
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Gabriel_Ayala
Jul 27, 2004
Bob,

I am using an ancient version were I work now. That doesn’t mean that I have not used CS or 7.0. The place I used to work at that I mentioned earlier had 7.0. There are some things I can’t remember off hand so I can’t go into the software and try to reproduce the problem here but I am experienced with Photoshop.

Hopefully James already knows what I’ve told him and he is only using the text tool for adding some text to a poster or something like that but if he didn’t know, it’s going to help him in the long run don’t you think?

IMO, posting as much helpful information as possible is better than posting vague info.

I get the feeling you don’t like me. :/
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James_Sekely
Jul 27, 2004
Thanks for everyones help. Solved my problem by using another application and then merging the results into Photoshop.

Jim
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BobLevine
Jul 27, 2004
I don’t even know you. It’s your misinformation I don’t like.

Creating a poster, or even a business card completely in Photoshop, including text is absolutely fine…if you know what you’re doing.

I’ve done it myself several times. Save as PDF and the output is as good anything you’ll get anywhere else.

Bob
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Gabriel_Ayala
Jul 27, 2004
You are welcome James.

Sorry but I am going to go off the O/P in the following lines.

Creating a poster, or even a business card completely in Photoshop, including text is absolutely fine…if you know what you’re doing.

That’s true on the "if you know what you’re doing" comment. Only problem is a high number of people don’t or they just over do it. A business card can be done nicely as 1 up but a 10 up 300+ DPI layout in Photoshop? Come on! I hate when they do that and bring it to me in PSD format.

PDF is always nice, I wish everyone would do that and do it the right way. (A good reason to stop by the forum and learn)

Posters; those can be done and most of the time are done best in Photoshop. It’s when people that are learning this stuff use Photoshop to create everything they do in it.

James,

If you are still around, I’m a bit curious as to what your level of experience is in this line of work? Would you consider yourself to be a Beginner, Intermediate, Advanced or Expert?

Did you think the information I posted was useful or not?

Awe, now I sound like a survey. LOL 😀
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Phosphor
Jul 27, 2004
"Posting misinformation is worse than posting nothing at all."

I couldn’t agree more strongly.
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Gabriel_Ayala
Jul 27, 2004
Phosphor,

You need to go to the political forum <g>

TIA
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BobLevine
Jul 27, 2004
Give it rest, Gabriel. You’re contibuting nothing here and putting words in my mouth, to boot.

Bob

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