zorro explains the scanner riddle

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zorro
Sep 6, 2006
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It was 1:45 am and I had a contract proposal to which i had to reply promptly or risk losing the contract. Required in my answer was a scan of the contract on which my signature would be apposed. The helping person printed the document I sent him, signed my name on it, scanned the signed document and emailed me the image. I sent the image to the contractor.

Feel free to bash.

(btw, I got the contract.)

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friesian
Sep 6, 2006
zorro wrote:
It was 1:45 am and I had a contract proposal to which i had to reply promptly or risk losing the contract. Required in my answer was a scan of the contract on which my signature would be apposed. The helping person printed the document I sent him, signed my name on it, scanned the signed document and emailed me the image. I sent the image to the contractor.

Feel free to bash.

(btw, I got the contract.)

So it was something illegal. (They had to forge your signature) I figured you needed proof of something, but it didn’t make any sense if all you needed was an exact copy of a text file.

Has it occurred to you to invest in a simple printer and scanner? You can get each for less than $100 new, or about $20 or less used on craigslist. Then you do this without having to look for somebody to forge your signature.You would have saved yourself a lot of hassle if you could do it on your own. As it is, you had to ask for something that you knew was going to be illegal, so you couldn’t say what you actually needed or why, and that just brought you a lot more attention.

What if your client reads one of these groups or does a search of your email address and finds this? Will they want to keep up business with somebody that doesn’t even have basic business equipment? Or admits to forgery online?
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Voivod
Sep 6, 2006
On 6 Sep 2006 01:11:42 -0700, "zorro" scribbled:

It was 1:45 am and I had a contract proposal to which i had to reply promptly or risk losing the contract. Required in my answer was a scan of the contract on which my signature would be apposed. The helping person printed the document I sent him, signed my name on it, scanned the signed document and emailed me the image. I sent the image to the contractor.

Feel free to bash.

(btw, I got the contract.)

Figured it was fraud of one kind or another but wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt. Thanks for admitting you’re a criminal. Good luck next time you need help. Hopefully the person you conned will read this and let the contractor know of the fraud.

Congrats, you rate below scumbag.
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Aaron
Sep 6, 2006
wrote:
zorro wrote:
It was 1:45 am and I had a contract proposal to which i had to reply promptly or risk losing the contract. Required in my answer was a scan of the contract on which my signature would be apposed. The helping person printed the document I sent him, signed my name on it, scanned the signed document and emailed me the image. I sent the image to the contractor.

Feel free to bash.

(btw, I got the contract.)

So it was something illegal. (They had to forge your signature) I figured you needed proof of something, but it didn’t make any sense if all you needed was an exact copy of a text file.

It’s not illegal to sign someone’s name with their permission.

Has it occurred to you to invest in a simple printer and scanner? You can get each for less than $100 new, or about $20 or less used on craigslist. Then you do this without having to look for somebody to forge your signature.You would have saved yourself a lot of hassle if you could do it on your own. As it is, you had to ask for something that you knew was going to be illegal, so you couldn’t say what you actually needed or why, and that just brought you a lot more attention.
What if your client reads one of these groups or does a search of your email address and finds this? Will they want to keep up business with somebody that doesn’t even have basic business equipment? Or admits to forgery online?


Aaron

"Mankind are greater gainers by suffering each other to live as seems good to themselves, than by compelling each to live as seems good to the rest." — John Stuart Mill
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noone
Sep 6, 2006
In article ,
says…
zorro wrote:
It was 1:45 am and I had a contract proposal to which i had to reply promptly or risk losing the contract. Required in my answer was a scan of the contract on which my signature would be apposed. The helping person printed the document I sent him, signed my name on it, scanned the signed document and emailed me the image. I sent the image to the contractor.

Feel free to bash.

(btw, I got the contract.)

So it was something illegal. (They had to forge your signature) I figured you needed proof of something, but it didn’t make any sense if all you needed was an exact copy of a text file.

Has it occurred to you to invest in a simple printer and scanner? You can get each for less than $100 new, or about $20 or less used on craigslist. Then you do this without having to look for somebody to forge your signature.You would have saved yourself a lot of hassle if you could do it on your own. As it is, you had to ask for something that you knew was going to be illegal, so you couldn’t say what you actually needed or why, and that just brought you a lot more attention.
What if your client reads one of these groups or does a search of your email address and finds this? Will they want to keep up business with somebody that doesn’t even have basic business equipment? Or admits to forgery online?

Besides the benefits that an all-n-one print/scan/fax device provides to a small office, another quick solution would be to just create one’s signature in almost any image program, paste it into the document, then transmit that " signed" document to the recipient. I’ll admit that doing so with a tablet/ stylus is far easier, but I’ve had to do it with a mouse and a bit of practice.

Hunt
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friesian
Sep 6, 2006
Aaron wrote:

It’s not illegal to sign someone’s name with their permission.

How it can it be a legal signature if it doesn’t even look close to the person’s handwriting?

And what about the person who signed it. If thsi Zorro guy wants to claim later that somebody else signed his name, he’d be correct, and the other guy wouldn’t have a defense. How does the other guy even know that he is signing Zorro’s real name and not helping him forge somebody else’s name.

Honestly, would you sign somebody else’s name on a legal document for a stranger? Does that sound legit?

And why did the guy have to have it in the middle of the night? He honestly couldn’t wait until a store opened up at 8am? He would lose a contract if he didn’t have it faxed in the middle of the night? What kind of business waits until 1am and then insists on a reply before normal business hours?
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HTech
Sep 6, 2006
(btw, I got the contract.)

Congrats! Buy a printer.
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HTech
Sep 6, 2006
(btw, I got the contract.)

Congrats! Buy a printer.
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Roy G
Sep 7, 2006
"HTech" wrote in message
(btw, I got the contract.)

Congrats! Buy a printer.

Hi all.

I suspect this is another load of weirdness.

He took 2 days to figure out some sort of scenario that most people might accept, and even then it is not exactly convincing.

Sending contracts at 1.45 am, which need to be signed and sent back at once??

A business wanting an Emailed document as a legal contract??

A typed signature would be just as effective, considering how easy it is to edit or forge an Email.

No, it is all another Fairy Tale.

Roy G
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jaSPAMc
Sep 7, 2006
On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:01:36 GMT, "Roy G"
found these unused words floating about:

"HTech" wrote in message
(btw, I got the contract.)

Congrats! Buy a printer.

Hi all.

I suspect this is another load of weirdness.

He took 2 days to figure out some sort of scenario that most people might accept, and even then it is not exactly convincing.

Sending contracts at 1.45 am, which need to be signed and sent back at once??

The world doesn’t run on your local time zone …

A business wanting an Emailed document as a legal contract??

Scan, as a temporary ‘proof’, it’s acceptable while the true paper is sent along. Fax would have been much better.

A typed signature would be just as effective, considering how easy it is to edit or forge an Email.

No, it is all another Fairy Tale.

Roy G
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KatWoman
Sep 7, 2006
let me guess
it’s a Nigerian contract?

"HTech" wrote in message
(btw, I got the contract.)

Congrats! Buy a printer.

TC
tony cooper
Sep 8, 2006
On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:01:36 GMT, "Roy G"
wrote:

I suspect this is another load of weirdness.

He took 2 days to figure out some sort of scenario that most people might accept, and even then it is not exactly convincing.

Sending contracts at 1.45 am, which need to be signed and sent back at once??

Obviously, you’ve never been in a business where proposals (he didn’t say "contract") or bids either have to be in at a specified time or there is an advantage to having them on someone’s desk first thing in the morning. I’ve completed many complicated bids at hours much later than 1:45 AM. If you need something at 1:45 AM in one state, it may be only six hours until due time in another state. That’s not much time if you need outside help.

A business wanting an Emailed document as a legal contract??

He didn’t say "contract". He said "proposal". Although a bid is a offer to contract in the sense that it’s an agreement to supply something at a specified price, it’s not a contract until it has been accepted.

A typed signature would be just as effective, considering how easy it is to edit or forge an Email.

Again, you just haven’t had certain experiences. If you are dealing with a city or the state, if the line needs something in it, your proposal can be rejected if there’s nothing in the line. If one line says "Name", you type it in. If the second line says "Signature", you write it in. It is not fraud if the signer isn’t the name signed. It isn’t even a problem. The people who review proposals look for completed forms that follow their instructions. You could sign John Wilkes Booth and the proposal would be accepted.

No, it is all another Fairy Tale.

I don’t think so. I’ve lived under the pressure of getting large proposals through, and you don’t always think rationally about everything after working all night on a bid.

I don’t think there was anything shady involved. He just had a shitty attitude about explaining things here. Two days later, with the pressure off after having his proposal accepted, he loosened up a bit.



Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL
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Voivod
Sep 8, 2006
On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 23:23:11 -0400, Tony Cooper
scribbled:

On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:01:36 GMT, "Roy G"
wrote:

I suspect this is another load of weirdness.

He took 2 days to figure out some sort of scenario that most people might accept, and even then it is not exactly convincing.

Sending contracts at 1.45 am, which need to be signed and sent back at once??

Obviously, you’ve never been in a business where proposals (he didn’t say "contract") or bids either have to be in at a specified time or there is an advantage to having them on someone’s desk first thing in the morning. I’ve completed many complicated bids at hours much later than 1:45 AM. If you need something at 1:45 AM in one state, it may be only six hours until due time in another state. That’s not much time if you need outside help.

A business wanting an Emailed document as a legal contract??

He didn’t say "contract". He said "proposal". Although a bid is a offer to contract in the sense that it’s an agreement to supply something at a specified price, it’s not a contract until it has been accepted.

A typed signature would be just as effective, considering how easy it is to edit or forge an Email.

Again, you just haven’t had certain experiences. If you are dealing with a city or the state, if the line needs something in it, your proposal can be rejected if there’s nothing in the line. If one line says "Name", you type it in. If the second line says "Signature", you write it in. It is not fraud if the signer isn’t the name signed. It isn’t even a problem. The people who review proposals look for completed forms that follow their instructions. You could sign John Wilkes Booth and the proposal would be accepted.

No, it is all another Fairy Tale.

I don’t think so. I’ve lived under the pressure of getting large proposals through, and you don’t always think rationally about everything after working all night on a bid.

I don’t think there was anything shady involved. He just had a shitty attitude about explaining things here. Two days later, with the pressure off after having his proposal accepted, he loosened up a bit.

So are you going to be the offical apologist around here? The fucker commited fraud, hid his intent, asked for something moronic and you’re bending over backwards and lubing up to defend him.
TC
tony cooper
Sep 8, 2006
On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 04:36:45 GMT, Voivod wrote:

So are you going to be the offical apologist around here? The fucker commited fraud, hid his intent, asked for something moronic and you’re bending over backwards and lubing up to defend him.

I’ve been lurking here and reading the posts for a year or so. If there’s ever a pool to pick a date when you will post something interesting, helpful, or not wrong, I pick August 37th.



Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL
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Voivod
Sep 8, 2006
On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 03:01:18 -0400, Tony Cooper
scribbled:

On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 04:36:45 GMT, Voivod wrote:

So are you going to be the offical apologist around here? The fucker commited fraud, hid his intent, asked for something moronic and you’re bending over backwards and lubing up to defend him.

I’ve been lurking here and reading the posts for a year or so. If there’s ever a pool to pick a date when you will post something interesting, helpful, or not wrong, I pick August 37th.

It’s amusing that you pick me and not the person commiting fraud and getting (supposedly) someone else to aid them in their fraud as the person to attack. You’re a funny little tyke.
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jaSPAMc
Sep 8, 2006
On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 04:36:45 GMT, Voivod found these unused words floating about:

On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 23:23:11 -0400, Tony Cooper
scribbled:

On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:01:36 GMT, "Roy G"
wrote:

I suspect this is another load of weirdness.

He took 2 days to figure out some sort of scenario that most people might accept, and even then it is not exactly convincing.

Sending contracts at 1.45 am, which need to be signed and sent back at once??

Obviously, you’ve never been in a business where proposals (he didn’t say "contract") or bids either have to be in at a specified time or there is an advantage to having them on someone’s desk first thing in the morning. I’ve completed many complicated bids at hours much later than 1:45 AM. If you need something at 1:45 AM in one state, it may be only six hours until due time in another state. That’s not much time if you need outside help.

A business wanting an Emailed document as a legal contract??

He didn’t say "contract". He said "proposal". Although a bid is a offer to contract in the sense that it’s an agreement to supply something at a specified price, it’s not a contract until it has been accepted.

A typed signature would be just as effective, considering how easy it is to edit or forge an Email.

Again, you just haven’t had certain experiences. If you are dealing with a city or the state, if the line needs something in it, your proposal can be rejected if there’s nothing in the line. If one line says "Name", you type it in. If the second line says "Signature", you write it in. It is not fraud if the signer isn’t the name signed. It isn’t even a problem. The people who review proposals look for completed forms that follow their instructions. You could sign John Wilkes Booth and the proposal would be accepted.

No, it is all another Fairy Tale.

I don’t think so. I’ve lived under the pressure of getting large proposals through, and you don’t always think rationally about everything after working all night on a bid.

I don’t think there was anything shady involved. He just had a shitty attitude about explaining things here. Two days later, with the pressure off after having his proposal accepted, he loosened up a bit.

So are you going to be the offical apologist around here? The fucker commited fraud, hid his intent, asked for something moronic and you’re bending over backwards and lubing up to defend him.

Hey Tony,
The Void can’t see anything beyond his own personal experience – concepts of how another -=might=- consider doing things are ‘moronic’. Nuff said considering the comment/ator.
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Voivod
Sep 9, 2006
On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 14:04:38 -0700, Sir F. A. Rien
scribbled:

On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 04:36:45 GMT, Voivod found these unused words floating about:

On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 23:23:11 -0400, Tony Cooper
scribbled:

On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:01:36 GMT, "Roy G"
wrote:

I suspect this is another load of weirdness.

He took 2 days to figure out some sort of scenario that most people might accept, and even then it is not exactly convincing.

Sending contracts at 1.45 am, which need to be signed and sent back at once??

Obviously, you’ve never been in a business where proposals (he didn’t say "contract") or bids either have to be in at a specified time or there is an advantage to having them on someone’s desk first thing in the morning. I’ve completed many complicated bids at hours much later than 1:45 AM. If you need something at 1:45 AM in one state, it may be only six hours until due time in another state. That’s not much time if you need outside help.

A business wanting an Emailed document as a legal contract??

He didn’t say "contract". He said "proposal". Although a bid is a offer to contract in the sense that it’s an agreement to supply something at a specified price, it’s not a contract until it has been accepted.

A typed signature would be just as effective, considering how easy it is to edit or forge an Email.

Again, you just haven’t had certain experiences. If you are dealing with a city or the state, if the line needs something in it, your proposal can be rejected if there’s nothing in the line. If one line says "Name", you type it in. If the second line says "Signature", you write it in. It is not fraud if the signer isn’t the name signed. It isn’t even a problem. The people who review proposals look for completed forms that follow their instructions. You could sign John Wilkes Booth and the proposal would be accepted.

No, it is all another Fairy Tale.

I don’t think so. I’ve lived under the pressure of getting large proposals through, and you don’t always think rationally about everything after working all night on a bid.

I don’t think there was anything shady involved. He just had a shitty attitude about explaining things here. Two days later, with the pressure off after having his proposal accepted, he loosened up a bit.

So are you going to be the offical apologist around here? The fucker commited fraud, hid his intent, asked for something moronic and you’re bending over backwards and lubing up to defend him.

Hey Tony,
The Void can’t see anything beyond his own personal experience – concepts of how another -=might=- consider doing things are ‘moronic’. Nuff said considering the comment/ator.

And yet it was and still is all about forgery and fraud. Anyone getting involved is a moron. Too bad you just can’t admit I was right. How utterly sad your little life must be.
RG
Roy G
Sep 9, 2006
"Tony Cooper" wrote in message
On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:01:36 GMT, "Roy G"
wrote:

I suspect this is another load of weirdness.

He took 2 days to figure out some sort of scenario that most people might accept, and even then it is not exactly convincing.

Sending contracts at 1.45 am, which need to be signed and sent back at once??

Obviously, you’ve never been in a business where proposals (he didn’t say "contract") or bids either have to be in at a specified time or there is an advantage to having them on someone’s desk first thing in the morning. I’ve completed many complicated bids at hours much later than 1:45 AM. If you need something at 1:45 AM in one state, it may be only six hours until due time in another state. That’s not much time if you need outside help.

A business wanting an Emailed document as a legal contract??

He didn’t say "contract". He said "proposal". Although a bid is a offer to contract in the sense that it’s an agreement to supply something at a specified price, it’s not a contract until it has been accepted.

A typed signature would be just as effective, considering how easy it is to
edit or forge an Email.

Again, you just haven’t had certain experiences. If you are dealing with a city or the state, if the line needs something in it, your proposal can be rejected if there’s nothing in the line. If one line says "Name", you type it in. If the second line says "Signature", you write it in. It is not fraud if the signer isn’t the name signed. It isn’t even a problem. The people who review proposals look for completed forms that follow their instructions. You could sign John Wilkes Booth and the proposal would be accepted.

No, it is all another Fairy Tale.

I don’t think so. I’ve lived under the pressure of getting large proposals through, and you don’t always think rationally about everything after working all night on a bid.

I don’t think there was anything shady involved. He just had a shitty attitude about explaining things here. Two days later, with the pressure off after having his proposal accepted, he loosened up a bit.



Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL

I think you are nit-picking my response, contract – proposal, etc.

I am in business, for myself. I do sometimes need to sign contracts, they are done on paper and put in the post.

Sometimes certain businesses, who need a signature, will accept a signed Faxed Document.

But a signed, scanned & Emailed Doc, you must be kidding. Just try it with a cheque in a bank, they will either fall about laughing or send for the cops.

Yes I am aware that certain large organisations, who get the level of staff to match the rubbish wages they pay, will accept any signature. Serve them bloody right if that Contract Document is ever relied upon as part of a proof of a debt.

If they want the money they can pursue Mr M. Mouse in whichever Court they like.

I still think this guy has invented a scenario to explain his weird & stupid request.

Roy G
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jaSPAMc
Sep 9, 2006
On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 00:25:09 GMT, Voivod found these unused words floating about:

On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 14:04:38 -0700, Sir F. A. Rien
scribbled:

On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 04:36:45 GMT, Voivod found these unused words floating about:

On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 23:23:11 -0400, Tony Cooper
scribbled:

On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:01:36 GMT, "Roy G"
wrote:

I suspect this is another load of weirdness.

He took 2 days to figure out some sort of scenario that most people might accept, and even then it is not exactly convincing.

Sending contracts at 1.45 am, which need to be signed and sent back at once??

Obviously, you’ve never been in a business where proposals (he didn’t say "contract") or bids either have to be in at a specified time or there is an advantage to having them on someone’s desk first thing in the morning. I’ve completed many complicated bids at hours much later than 1:45 AM. If you need something at 1:45 AM in one state, it may be only six hours until due time in another state. That’s not much time if you need outside help.

A business wanting an Emailed document as a legal contract??

He didn’t say "contract". He said "proposal". Although a bid is a offer to contract in the sense that it’s an agreement to supply something at a specified price, it’s not a contract until it has been accepted.

A typed signature would be just as effective, considering how easy it is to edit or forge an Email.

Again, you just haven’t had certain experiences. If you are dealing with a city or the state, if the line needs something in it, your proposal can be rejected if there’s nothing in the line. If one line says "Name", you type it in. If the second line says "Signature", you write it in. It is not fraud if the signer isn’t the name signed. It isn’t even a problem. The people who review proposals look for completed forms that follow their instructions. You could sign John Wilkes Booth and the proposal would be accepted.

No, it is all another Fairy Tale.

I don’t think so. I’ve lived under the pressure of getting large proposals through, and you don’t always think rationally about everything after working all night on a bid.

I don’t think there was anything shady involved. He just had a shitty attitude about explaining things here. Two days later, with the pressure off after having his proposal accepted, he loosened up a bit.

So are you going to be the offical apologist around here? The fucker commited fraud, hid his intent, asked for something moronic and you’re bending over backwards and lubing up to defend him.

Hey Tony,
The Void can’t see anything beyond his own personal experience – concepts of how another -=might=- consider doing things are ‘moronic’. Nuff said considering the comment/ator.

And yet it was and still is all about forgery and fraud. Anyone getting involved is a moron. Too bad you just can’t admit I was right. How utterly sad your little life must be.

I’ve said enough times for any ‘moronic’ person to understand, if they ever will.

My comments were -=NOT=- about him, but about the method ONLY! Places your last two sentences in a mirror as they really apply to you.
TC
tony cooper
Sep 9, 2006
On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 11:33:05 GMT, "Roy G"
wrote:

"Tony Cooper" wrote in message
On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:01:36 GMT, "Roy G"
wrote:

I suspect this is another load of weirdness.

He took 2 days to figure out some sort of scenario that most people might accept, and even then it is not exactly convincing.

Sending contracts at 1.45 am, which need to be signed and sent back at once??

Obviously, you’ve never been in a business where proposals (he didn’t say "contract") or bids either have to be in at a specified time or there is an advantage to having them on someone’s desk first thing in the morning. I’ve completed many complicated bids at hours much later than 1:45 AM. If you need something at 1:45 AM in one state, it may be only six hours until due time in another state. That’s not much time if you need outside help.

A business wanting an Emailed document as a legal contract??

Yes. A contract is an agreement between two parties where both parties understand what is being agreed to. A signature is not required to make it a contract. An oral contract is just a binding as a written contract.
I think you are nit-picking my response, contract – proposal, etc.

I don’t think it’s a nit-pick. A proposal is not a contract because there is no agreement between the parties. It’s an offer, and nothing more. It’s not binding unless it’s accepted.

I am in business, for myself. I do sometimes need to sign contracts, they are done on paper and put in the post.

Sometimes certain businesses, who need a signature, will accept a signed Faxed Document.

But a signed, scanned & Emailed Doc, you must be kidding. Just try it with a cheque in a bank, they will either fall about laughing or send for the cops.

You think? My bank accepts my endorsement made with a rubber stamp. My bank accepts a check signed electronically. I frequently receive and deposit checks made out to me as dividends by large corporations who imprint a signature on the check. My bank sends out checks that I instigate by online billpayer that are not signed by me. My bank acts on wire transfers authorized on the phone.

Where do you get the idea that a signature is always required by a bank?



Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL
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granny
Sep 9, 2006
Old N Slow:
just a recap—

Zorro started this thing out with the following request: " I need to scan something. I’m looking for someone who can print a 2 page document and scan it, and email me the image. "

Two hours later PROBLEM SOLVED!

As Harry Limey pointed out "Zorro" sent this exact same request to:

24hoursupport.helpdesk – Sep 1, 5:10 pm – 4 messages – 3 authors comp.periphs.scanners – Sep 1, 5:11 pm – 5 messages – 3 authors microsoft.public.windowsxp.general – Sep 1, 5:44 pm – 5 messages – 3 authors
microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax – Sep 1, 5:46 pm – 3 messages – 3 authors
microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware – Sep 1, 5:47 pm – 7 messages – 5 authors
alt.computer – Sep 1, 5:49 pm – 2 messages – 2 authors
microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support – Sep 1, 5:51 pm – 5 messages – 4 authors
alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.abit – Sep 1, 5:53 pm – 21 messages – 7 authors
uk.adverts.computer – Sep 1, 5:56 pm – 12 messages – 8 authors

alt.graphics.photoshop – Sep 1, 5:53 pm – 59 messages – 17 authors

(these were to the "need someone to scan me something please" request)

This thread, "zorro explains the scanner riddle" submitted Sep 6 2006 only to this group has recieved 19 more posts . A grand total so far of 78 replies from this NG of which only a few could be considered helpful to him. I realize that the request was hard to understand and seemed like BS and his rational seemed misguided, but according to him his problem was solved a couple hours after the numerous solicitations, and we are still bickering and harping amongst ourselves 8 Days later.

If "Harry Limey" was right when he stated ,"This has got to be some sort of research to find the most helpful/unhelpful group!!" (Which I doubt, BTW) Non the less, I submit that this NG has proven that when a bunch of artistic intellectuals get together the odds are 70 to 1 that they will discuss almost anything at greater lengths than any of the other groups.

Hopefuly we can put this and the "need someone to scan me something please" threads to bed.

"Granny"
Can’t we all just get along?
RG
Roy G
Sep 11, 2006
"Tony Cooper" wrote in message
..
You think? My bank accepts my endorsement made with a rubber stamp. My bank accepts a check signed electronically. I frequently receive and deposit checks made out to me as dividends by large corporations who imprint a signature on the check. My bank sends out checks that I instigate by online billpayer that are not signed by me. My bank acts on wire transfers authorized on the phone.

Where do you get the idea that a signature is always required by a bank?

Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL

Where did I say that??

Read what I said just a bit more carefully.

I was querying the validity, of a Signed then Scanned then Emailed document.

Roy G
TC
tony cooper
Sep 11, 2006
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 10:32:41 GMT, "Roy G"
wrote:

"Tony Cooper" wrote in message
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You think? My bank accepts my endorsement made with a rubber stamp. My bank accepts a check signed electronically. I frequently receive and deposit checks made out to me as dividends by large corporations who imprint a signature on the check. My bank sends out checks that I instigate by online billpayer that are not signed by me. My bank acts on wire transfers authorized on the phone.

Where do you get the idea that a signature is always required by a bank?

Where did I say that??

When you said: "But a signed, scanned & Emailed Doc, you must be kidding. Just try it with a cheque in a bank, they will either fall about laughing or send for the cops."

Read what I said just a bit more carefully.

I tried, but I was falling about laughing.

I was querying the validity, of a Signed then Scanned then Emailed document.
Roy G



Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL

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