Ilford Classic A Little Too Warm

I presume you are using color management properly with a hardware calibrated monitor.
In my experience pearl/luster papers do not print with the over-all accuracy of glossy papers. Often prints have what might be called warm, sepia or some other similar characteristic compared to the same print on glossy paper. As you obviously realize part of the art of printing is understanding the characteristics of different paper surfaces and what that can impart to the final image.
Pearl/luster papers are just not as versatile as glossy papers for all round printing. In my experience they are best for portraits/pictures of people, a subject many people use software warming filters to enhance. I am sure other people have other preferences.
Sad to say but Canon color management in my experience is not all that reliable for their own papers, let alone other manufacturer’s papers. With persistence you can learn to tweak the color driver settings to get reasonably predictable results if it is worth the effort to you in order to use a particular type of paper.
I am not sure you want to invest in printer calibration equipment or have custom printer/paper profiles generated for you but that is another option. I have fooled around with the Monaco Optix system which uses a flatbed scanner as an intermediary. I felt it somewhat improved results from my Canon printer but if you already have a satisfactory monitor calibration device I would stick with that and play with the printer driver settings.

I have a bunch of different photos that I printed on my Canon IP4000 using Canon ink and Costco/Kirkland Full Sheet Glossy paper and Ilford Classic Pearl.

I want to standardize on these two primary papers depending on the look I am after. Later I may even add a matte and a specialty paper.
The Ilford Classic Pearl gives me a mixed bag. I like the finish and the way it feels but one of the following or maybe both is true:
1. The result is too warm

2. The result favors too much red.

For example I have a portrait of a girl with nice blonder hair. When printed on the glossy using the proper profile for that paper the hair looks just way it should. When the same photo is printed on the Ilford Classic Pearl with the proper profile provided by Ilford the hair has a warmer cast and the flesh tones also have a warmer cast. It is to the point where it is too warm for my liking.

Color Mgt is turn on in Photoshop and off in the Printer Driver.
I know that you can play around with color using many different tools in Photoshop but I cannot get the results of the Pearl to match the glossy.
What is the best (step by step if possible) way to change the color temperature using Photoshop 7?

Also what is an alternate way using Photoshop 7 to not only cool down the photo but reduce the amount of reds? I know there is Color Balance, Hue, and a 3rd adjustment under Layers–Adjustment Layers that can affect the color but I do not know the best one to use and just how much to move each slider.
The prints also come out warmer than what I see on the screen and my monitor is calibrated as best I can.

My source color is Adobe RGB 1998.

The main thing to emphasize is that what I see on the screen closely matches what the glossy print looks like.

I assume you are using the Ilford profile for the Ilford paper?

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I have a bunch of different photos that I printed on my Canon IP4000 using Canon ink and Costco/Kirkland Full Sheet Glossy paper and Ilford Classic Pearl.

I want to standardize on these two primary papers depending on the look I am after. Later I may even add a matte and a specialty paper.
The Ilford Classic Pearl gives me a mixed bag. I like the finish and the way it feels but one of the following or maybe both is true:
1. The result is too warm

2. The result favors too much red.

For example I have a portrait of a girl with nice blonder hair. When printed on the glossy using the proper profile for that paper the hair looks just way it should. When the same photo is printed on the Ilford Classic Pearl with the proper profile provided by Ilford the hair has a warmer cast and the flesh tones also have a warmer cast. It is to the point where it is too warm for my liking.

Color Mgt is turn on in Photoshop and off in the Printer Driver.
I know that you can play around with color using many different tools in Photoshop but I cannot get the results of the Pearl to match the glossy.
What is the best (step by step if possible) way to change the color temperature using Photoshop 7?

Also what is an alternate way using Photoshop 7 to not only cool down the photo but reduce the amount of reds? I know there is Color Balance, Hue, and a 3rd adjustment under Layers–Adjustment Layers that can affect the color but I do not know the best one to use and just how much to move each slider.
The prints also come out warmer than what I see on the screen and my monitor is calibrated as best I can.

My source color is Adobe RGB 1998.

The main thing to emphasize is that what I see on the screen closely matches what the glossy print looks like.

I have a bunch of different photos that I printed on my Canon IP4000 using Canon ink and Costco/Kirkland Full Sheet Glossy paper and Ilford Classic Pearl.

I want to standardize on these two primary papers depending on the look I am after. Later I may even add a matte and a specialty paper.
The Ilford Classic Pearl gives me a mixed bag. I like the finish and the way it feels but one of the following or maybe both is true:
1. The result is too warm

2. The result favors too much red.

For example I have a portrait of a girl with nice blonder hair. When printed on the glossy using the proper profile for that paper the hair looks just way it should. When the same photo is printed on the Ilford Classic Pearl with the proper profile provided by Ilford the hair has a warmer cast and the flesh tones also have a warmer cast. It is to the point where it is too warm for my liking.

Color Mgt is turn on in Photoshop and off in the Printer Driver.
I know that you can play around with color using many different tools in Photoshop but I cannot get the results of the Pearl to match the glossy.
What is the best (step by step if possible) way to change the color temperature using Photoshop 7?

Also what is an alternate way using Photoshop 7 to not only cool down the photo but reduce the amount of reds? I know there is Color Balance, Hue, and a 3rd adjustment under Layers–Adjustment Layers that can affect the color but I do not know the best one to use and just how much to move each slider.
The prints also come out warmer than what I see on the screen and my monitor is calibrated as best I can.

My source color is Adobe RGB 1998.

The main thing to emphasize is that what I see on the screen closely matches what the glossy print looks like.