Adobe LightRoom

Dave C. wrote:

I just downloaded LightRoom Beta 4.1 but have not installed it. I just want to know if anyone had found any glitches installing and running it. I have WinXP, SP2 as per the requirements. The tutorials look very good.
Dave C.

I have it installed and works for me.

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 20:25:18 -0500, "Dave C." <myaddress.net> wrote:

I just downloaded LightRoom Beta 4.1 but have not installed it. I just want to know if anyone had found any glitches installing and running it. I have WinXP, SP2 as per the requirements. The tutorials look very good.

I installed it and tried it. No problems, but it’ll hardly put sliced bread in second place as the best thing. It really doesn’t do anything better, but it does the same things differently.

The only advantage I can see over other similar programs is that you can click a photo direct to Photoshop for editing. I’d really like to see a program where two images can be placed side-by-side at half-screen size for comparison, and then a third photo brought in in place of one of the two.

Yes, I know this can be done with tiling in Photoshop, but each file has to be opened rather than doing it in a preview mode.

—

Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL

Its beta software of course there are problems.

R

"Dave C." <myaddress.net> wrote in message

I just downloaded LightRoom Beta 4.1 but have not installed it. I just want to know if anyone had found any glitches installing and running it. I have WinXP, SP2 as per the requirements. The tutorials look very good.
Dave C.

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 23:59:46 -0800, "Hebee Jeebes" wrote:

Its beta software of course there are problems.

R

Yes! Could you unpack the above statement for us?
What problems have you found?

DB

"Dave C." <myaddress.net> wrote in message

I just downloaded LightRoom Beta 4.1 but have not installed it. I just want to know if anyone had found any glitches installing and running it. I have WinXP, SP2 as per the requirements. The tutorials look very good.
Dave C.
yes i have tried it out, and on two versions downloaded i could not save, or save as, because both of them where greyed out.

"Roy" wrote in message

"Dave C." <myaddress.net> wrote in message

I just downloaded LightRoom Beta 4.1 but have not installed it. I just want to know if anyone had found any glitches installing and running it. I have WinXP, SP2 as per the requirements. The tutorials look very good.
Dave C.
yes i have tried it out, and on two versions downloaded i could not save, or save as, because both of them where greyed out.

You use the export option, not save or save as – those are not used at all and
from what I understand will be removed – they are only there now because they
are usually found on that sort of menu and the programmers haven’t done the final tidying up yet.

Check out the lightroom forums on forums.adobe.com – a very useful read.

"JulieM" wrote in message

You use the export option, not save or save as – those are not used at all and
from what I understand will be removed – they are only there now because they
are usually found on that sort of menu and the programmers haven’t done the
final tidying up yet.

Check out the lightroom forums on forums.adobe.com – a very useful read.

I also noticed that there is no uninstall function in the event. If I need the space, how do I remove it from my hard drive and registry?

Dave C.

Well, it is slow. It for some people seems to have problems with large numbers of images. I have had it crash a couple of times to the point that it also damaged the database which required re-importing all of the images.

For more check out the Adobe Lab forums for the beta test of LR.

R

"Delivery Boy" wrote in message

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 23:59:46 -0800, "Hebee Jeebes" wrote:

Its beta software of course there are problems.

R

Yes! Could you unpack the above statement for us?
What problems have you found?

DB

"Dave C." <myaddress.net> wrote in message

"JulieM" wrote in message

You use the export option, not save or save as – those are not used at all and
from what I understand will be removed – they are only there now because they
are usually found on that sort of menu and the programmers haven’t done the
final tidying up yet.

Check out the lightroom forums on forums.adobe.com – a very useful read.

I also noticed that there is no uninstall function in the event. If I need the space, how do I remove it from my hard drive and registry?
Dave C.

Start menu – Adobe Lightroom – uninstall. I also have an uninstall in my Add/Remove Programs in the Control Panel.

"JulieM" wrote in message

"Dave C." <myaddress.net> wrote in message

"JulieM" wrote in message

Start menu – Adobe Lightroom – uninstall. I also have an uninstall in my Add/Remove Programs in the Control Panel.

JulieM. For some reason, the uninstall does not appear in my Add/Remove Programs in the Control Panel (I just double-checked to be sure I did not gloss over it). But, it sure is in the Start menu – Adobe Lightroom plain as day. Thanks for pointing me to that.

I do not plan to uninstall Lightroom, and as a home photographer, I think I’ll get a lot from it. I use Photoshop 5.0 and Lightroom does similar functions but more of them and more detail. I think I will better understand the value of curves. I also went through the video tutorial which got me started in the first place.

Regards, Dave C.

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"JulieM" wrote in message

Start menu – Adobe Lightroom – uninstall. I also have an uninstall in my Add/Remove Programs in the Control Panel.

JulieM. For some reason, the uninstall does not appear in my Add/Remove Programs in the Control Panel (I just double-checked to be sure I did not gloss over it). But, it sure is in the Start menu – Adobe Lightroom plain as day. Thanks for pointing me to that.

JulieM, My apologies, I found the uninstall listed under "Lightroom" and of course, I was looking under Adobe – Lightroom. (I have to pay more attention.)

Dave C.

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"JulieM" wrote in message

"Dave C." <myaddress.net> wrote in message

"JulieM" wrote in message

Start menu – Adobe Lightroom – uninstall. I also have an uninstall in my Add/Remove Programs in the Control Panel.

JulieM. For some reason, the uninstall does not appear in my Add/Remove Programs in the Control Panel (I just double-checked to be sure I did not gloss over it). But, it sure is in the Start menu – Adobe Lightroom plain as day. Thanks for pointing me to that.

JulieM, My apologies, I found the uninstall listed under "Lightroom" and of course, I was looking under Adobe – Lightroom. (I have to pay more attention.)

Dave C.

No problem – I’ve done it myself!

They’ve finalised the name, so expect to find it listed as ‘Adobe Photoshop Lightroom’ in the final version. No idea why they felt the need to add Photoshop in there. *shrug*

Julie

Not to mention that by adding Photoshop to the name this just muddied the waters of a product that already had people asking if it would replace Photoshop, Replace ACR, Replace Bridge. Not to mention that someone that didn’t know better would think it had tools like Photoshop. Dumb move if you ask me. Adobe Lightroom was just fine.

R

"JulieM" wrote in message

"Dave C." <myaddress.net> wrote in message

"Dave C." <myaddress.net> wrote in message

"JulieM" wrote in message

"Dave C." <myaddress.net> wrote in message

"JulieM" wrote in message

Start menu – Adobe Lightroom – uninstall. I also have an uninstall in my
Add/Remove Programs in the Control Panel.

JulieM. For some reason, the uninstall does not appear in my Add/Remove Programs in the Control Panel (I just double-checked to be sure I did not gloss over it). But, it sure is in the Start menu – Adobe Lightroom plain as day. Thanks for pointing me to that.

JulieM, My apologies, I found the uninstall listed under "Lightroom" and of course, I was looking under Adobe – Lightroom. (I have to pay more attention.)

Dave C.

No problem – I’ve done it myself!

They’ve finalised the name, so expect to find it listed as ‘Adobe Photoshop Lightroom’ in the final version. No idea why they felt the need to add Photoshop in there. *shrug*

Julie

"Hebee Jeebes" wrote in message

Not to mention that by adding Photoshop to the name this just muddied the waters of a product that already had people asking if it would replace Photoshop, Replace ACR, Replace Bridge. Not to mention that someone that didn’t know better would think it had tools like Photoshop. Dumb move if you ask me. Adobe Lightroom was just fine.

R

It certainly trips of the tongue better. Still, I’m sure they know best – like they
do with this library malarky. Totally ignoring those that only want a simple directory tree type browser. Like they can’t have an option for both.

Julie

Actually rumor has it that beta 5 has a file browser option. I don’t know if it is true or how it would work with the database, but that is the rumor. However, it doesn’t look like beta 5 will be released. It looks like they will go from beta 4.1 to final release. I hope not, I don’t think LR is ready for prime time. But, then I am just a user, what do I know.

R

"JulieM" wrote in message

"Hebee Jeebes" wrote in message

Not to mention that by adding Photoshop to the name this just muddied the waters of a product that already had people asking if it would replace Photoshop, Replace ACR, Replace Bridge. Not to mention that someone that didn’t know better would think it had tools like Photoshop. Dumb move if you ask me. Adobe Lightroom was just fine.

R

It certainly trips of the tongue better. Still, I’m sure they know best – like they
do with this library malarky. Totally ignoring those that only want a simple
directory tree type browser. Like they can’t have an option for both.
Julie

"Hebee Jeebes" wrote in message

Actually rumor has it that beta 5 has a file browser option. I don’t know if it is true or how it would work with the database, but that is the rumor. However, it doesn’t look like beta 5 will be released. It looks like they will go from beta 4.1 to final release. I hope not, I don’t think LR is ready for prime time. But, then I am just a user, what do I know.

R

Well I’m lucky I guess – I get a free copy on account of having bought Rawshooter Premium. If it has a browser I’ll be happy (however one of the Adobe guys has adamantly said no browser when people have previously asked for it) but they need to work on noise reduction – it is nowhere near as good as Silkypix (my Raw converter of choice at the moment) and some other things (a dust spot remover for example, which is apparently in B5) – other users are complaining that the sharpening algorithms aren’t much cop at the moment either.

Beta 5 was demoed at a show recently so they may give it out (fingers crossed) but I suppose they need to start making some money from it soon.

Julie

It was at that show that someone reported seeing a file browser mode. Don’t know if its true or not.

I just hope they get what they have in it fixed. They need versioning, stacks, much much better sharpening, noise reduction and folder watching. It needs to be a lot faster and the database needs to use less hard drive space and be more stable.

If these things aren’t done then those that get a free copy because of RSP are going to be really loosing out. I hope they do it right instead of doing it fast. They will sell more if they do it right especially given that a lot people that would by have now used it and seen where its lacking.

R

"JulieM" wrote in message

"Hebee Jeebes" wrote in message

Actually rumor has it that beta 5 has a file browser option. I don’t know if it is true or how it would work with the database, but that is the rumor. However, it doesn’t look like beta 5 will be released. It looks like they will go from beta 4.1 to final release. I hope not, I don’t think LR is ready for prime time. But, then I am just a user, what do I know.

R

Well I’m lucky I guess – I get a free copy on account of having bought Rawshooter Premium. If it has a browser I’ll be happy (however one of the Adobe guys has adamantly said no browser when people have previously asked for it) but they need to work on noise reduction – it is nowhere near as good as Silkypix (my Raw converter of choice at the moment) and some other things (a dust spot remover for example, which is apparently in B5) – other users are complaining that the sharpening algorithms aren’t much cop at the moment either.

Beta 5 was demoed at a show recently so they may give it out (fingers crossed) but I suppose they need to start making some money from it soon.
Julie

"Hebee Jeebes" wrote in message

It was at that show that someone reported seeing a file browser mode. Don’t know if its true or not.

I just hope they get what they have in it fixed. They need versioning, stacks, much much better sharpening, noise reduction and folder watching. It needs to be a lot faster and the database needs to use less hard drive space and be more stable.

If these things aren’t done then those that get a free copy because of RSP are going to be really loosing out. I hope they do it right instead of doing it fast. They will sell more if they do it right especially given that a lot people that would by have now used it and seen where its lacking.

R

I’ve heard that the Shoots option has been removed and the Library part only retained, but I would much prefer a folder tree. To add to your list of stuff
that needs sorting the keywording & search (DAM bits) need improving too as it rather clunky at the moment.

I use Silkypix now (I actually prefer it to RSP) – the output is gorgeous & noise
reduction is excellent. I don’t sharpen on export because I want unsharpened images for stock. It is trial for a month if you fancy trying it and when that
time is up you can carry on using it with a reduced toolkit.

Julie