Remove an object from an existing image

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Samuel Shulman
Jan 24, 2007
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Hi

I want to photograph jewellery and then move the actual piece of jewellery to another image (with a totally white background)

What program can do that?

Thank you,
Samuel

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Larry Bud
Jan 24, 2007
On Jan 24, 7:34 am, "Samuel Shulman"
wrote:
Hi

I want to photograph jewellery and then move the actual piece of jewellery to another image (with a totally white background)

What program can do that?

Nothing will do it automatically. But photoshop has the tools to do it. Depending on the original image it may be a quick thing, or it may take a while.
LB
Larry Bud
Jan 24, 2007
On Jan 24, 7:34 am, "Samuel Shulman"
wrote:
Hi

I want to photograph jewellery and then move the actual piece of jewellery to another image (with a totally white background)

What program can do that?

BTW, if you’re doing the phtographing, why don’t you just take a pic of the jewelery on a white surface?
E
edjh
Jan 24, 2007
Samuel Shulman wrote:
Hi

I want to photograph jewellery and then move the actual piece of jewellery to another image (with a totally white background)

What program can do that?

Thank you,
Samuel
Photoshop.

What you have to do it make a good selection of the object. There are a few ways to do this depending on the image. I prefer the Pen tool for this in most cases.

Once you have a good selection you can Copy and paste it into the new document or just drag it over.


Comic book sketches and artwork:
http://www.sover.net/~hannigan/edjh.html
Comics art for sale:
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Samuel Shulman
Jan 24, 2007
I never comes out 100% white

"Larry Bud" wrote in message
On Jan 24, 7:34 am, "Samuel Shulman"
wrote:
Hi

I want to photograph jewellery and then move the actual piece of jewellery
to another image (with a totally white background)

What program can do that?

BTW, if you’re doing the phtographing, why don’t you just take a pic of the jewelery on a white surface?
SS
Samuel Shulman
Jan 24, 2007
What are the other methods?

thanks,
Samuel

"edjh" wrote in message
Samuel Shulman wrote:
Hi

I want to photograph jewellery and then move the actual piece of jewellery to another image (with a totally white background)
What program can do that?

Thank you,
Samuel
Photoshop.

What you have to do it make a good selection of the object. There are a few ways to do this depending on the image. I prefer the Pen tool for this in most cases.

Once you have a good selection you can Copy and paste it into the new document or just drag it over.


Comic book sketches and artwork:
http://www.sover.net/~hannigan/edjh.html
Comics art for sale:
http://www.sover.net/~hannigan/batsale.html
V
Voivod
Jan 24, 2007
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:13:06 GMT, "Samuel Shulman" scribbled:

What are the other methods?

Hire someone who knows what they’re doing. A photographer for instance.
SS
Samuel Shulman
Jan 24, 2007
Would you offer your services

"Voivod" wrote in message
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:13:06 GMT, "Samuel Shulman" scribbled:

What are the other methods?

Hire someone who knows what they’re doing. A photographer for instance.
TB
Tony Blair
Jan 24, 2007
"Samuel Shulman" wrote in message
Would you offer your services

"Voivod" wrote in message
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:13:06 GMT, "Samuel Shulman" scribbled:

What are the other methods?

Hire someone who knows what they’re doing. A photographer for instance.

Samuel

We will all offer our services!! but for a fee of course!! But it sounds like you need someone to photograph them for you! and that would mean someone local! And whoever does it would need to be experienced in Photoshop too (Not all Photographers are of course!!)

Just as an aside – If you are going to be doing quite a lot of this!! I would suggest experimenting with a matt blue or green background, they are considered the easiest backgrounds to remove from an image! There is specialist software (relatively expensive!!) designed just for this one purpose!

Where are you based? I am sure someone on here will be local to you and will give you a quote!
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edjh
Jan 24, 2007
Samuel Shulman wrote:
What are the other methods?

thanks,
Samuel

Magic Wand, Extract, Lasso… A lot of Photoshop is about selections so there are many ways and combinations of ways. There are also tutorials on the web for cutting out or removing backgrounds, which is pretty much the same thing.

"edjh" wrote in message
Samuel Shulman wrote:
Hi

I want to photograph jewellery and then move the actual piece of jewellery to another image (with a totally white background)
What program can do that?

Thank you,
Samuel
Photoshop.

What you have to do it make a good selection of the object. There are a few ways to do this depending on the image. I prefer the Pen tool for this in most cases.

Once you have a good selection you can Copy and paste it into the new document or just drag it over.


Comic book sketches and artwork:
http://www.sover.net/~hannigan/edjh.html
Comics art for sale:
http://www.sover.net/~hannigan/batsale.html
FS
Fat Sam
Jan 24, 2007
Samuel Shulman wrote:
"Larry Bud" wrote in message
On Jan 24, 7:34 am, "Samuel Shulman"
wrote:
Hi

I want to photograph jewellery and then move the actual piece of jewellery
to another image (with a totally white background)

What program can do that?

BTW, if you’re doing the phtographing, why don’t you just take a pic of the jewelery on a white surface?

I never comes out 100% white

No, but it would make the job of removing the jewelry from the background a whole lot easier.
RG
Roy G
Jan 25, 2007
"Samuel Shulman" wrote in message
Hi

I want to photograph jewellery and then move the actual piece of jewellery to another image (with a totally white background)

What program can do that?

Thank you,
Samuel
Hi.

The simple way would be to take the photo using a White Background.

If you can’t get it to come out White then it needs some more light onto the Background. And / Or you could use Curves and click on the background with the Highlight Eyedropper.

Roy G
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Talker
Jan 25, 2007
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:12:10 GMT, "Samuel Shulman" wrote:

I never comes out 100% white

"Larry Bud" wrote in message
On Jan 24, 7:34 am, "Samuel Shulman"
wrote:
Hi

I want to photograph jewellery and then move the actual piece of jewellery
to another image (with a totally white background)

What program can do that?

BTW, if you’re doing the phtographing, why don’t you just take a pic of the jewelery on a white surface?

Just as a thought, if you will be doing a lot of this type of photography, why not get a light box? They make lighted boxes, just for this type of photography. (you can also build your own) Some light boxes allow you to mount the camera overtop the box, so it’s in a fixed position. Just place the jewelry inside the box, turn on the lights, check the camera’s focus, and press the shutter release.

Talker
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usenet
Jan 25, 2007
Samuel Shulman wrote:

"Larry Bud" wrote in message
On Jan 24, 7:34 am, "Samuel Shulman"
wrote:

Hi

I want to photograph jewellery and then move the actual piece of jewellery to another image (with a totally white background)
What program can do that?

BTW, if you’re doing the phtographing, why don’t you just take a pic of the jewelery on a white surface?

I never comes out 100% white

Do you know how to properly meter such a situation? Just pointing a camera set to auto-metering at an object against a white background won’t work. The white background will end up grayer than you want.

I would wager that it’d be easier for you to learn how to meter so the background is white than it would be to make all those images white in Photoshop after the fact.

But here’s a way to do it: If you’re shooting on a white background, but it shows up as gray, you might try this: Open the image in Photoshop and select Image -> Adjustment -> Levels. Click on the white eyedropper in the dialog, and then click on the part of the background you want to be white. The image will brighten.

There are other ways to do this, but this is the simplest.

HTH.
LB
Larry Bud
Jan 25, 2007
On Jan 24, 8:12 am, "Samuel Shulman"
wrote:
I never comes out 100% white

On Jan 24, 7:34 am, "Samuel Shulman"
wrote:
Hi

I want to photograph jewellery and then move the actual piece of jewellery
to another image (with a totally white background)

What program can do that?

BTW, if you’re doing the phtographing, why don’t you just take a pic of the jewelery on a white surface?

No, but then you use Photoshop to adjust the image. It’s MUCH easier to remove an object from a solid background than if the object is on something textured or in a real life environment.
N
noone
Jan 25, 2007
In article <LnIth.72791$>,
says…
Hi

I want to photograph jewellery and then move the actual piece of jewellery to another image (with a totally white background)

What program can do that?

Thank you,
Samuel

As others have stated, Photoshop is the tool for you.

Also, as others have stated, it’s relatively easy, if you have a good photograph to begin with. For reflective, 3-D subjects, the background should be considered to be one that will provide the best reflections in the surfaces of the subject. White might be OK, but probably something in the grey range will impose the fewest negative reflections, keep lens flare to a minimum. You can then work on getting the right look of the subject via light, shadow and reflection. You might have mirrors, lights, reflectors of different colors, all adding to the subject. Shoot for the subject and don’t worry about exposing for the background – you’ll eliminate it anyway. Same for the reflectors, etc. If they’re in the shot to do the most good, that’s OK,
SS
Samuel Shulman
Jan 25, 2007
Still does’t come out white

"Talker" wrote in message
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:12:10 GMT, "Samuel Shulman" wrote:

I never comes out 100% white

"Larry Bud" wrote in message
On Jan 24, 7:34 am, "Samuel Shulman"
wrote:
Hi

I want to photograph jewellery and then move the actual piece of jewellery
to another image (with a totally white background)

What program can do that?

BTW, if you’re doing the phtographing, why don’t you just take a pic of the jewelery on a white surface?

Just as a thought, if you will be doing a lot of this type of photography, why not get a light box? They make lighted boxes, just for this type of photography. (you can also build your own) Some light boxes allow you to mount the camera overtop the box, so it’s in a fixed position. Just place the jewelry inside the box, turn on the lights, check the camera’s focus, and press the shutter release.
Talker
V
Voivod
Jan 25, 2007
On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 18:18:27 GMT, "Samuel Shulman" scribbled:

Still does’t come out white

Buy a better camera. Get better lighting. Hire someone with a clue.
G
Granny
Jan 25, 2007
On Jan 24, 6:34 am, "Samuel Shulman"
wrote:

I want to photograph jewellery and then move the actual piece of jewellery to another image (with a totally white background)

Samuel,

You have been given a lot of good advise on how to photograph your jewelry and on how to photoshop your photos after your shoot.

What I feel you may be missing is experience.

Jewelry Photography is one of the most difficult things to accomplish in photography. You need to have a good photograph to start with before attempting to manipulate it in Photoshop.

It takes time, lots of experience and good equipment to achieve good photographic results. You have to first master the four basic elements: lighting, experience, lens and cameras.

The need to "move the actual piece of jewelry to another image (with a totally white background)" becomes a mute point when the basics are mastered first.

The lighting set-up is the most important component in jewelry photography and you need to be able to control the perspective and focus. The best and most accurate details are the result of precise focusing. A point and shoot camera will not do a very good job for jewelry photography and a general purpose lens is exactly that, for general purposes.

Some good information on jewelry photography is found at: http://www.tabletopstudio.com/documents/jewelry_photography. htm they cover most of the basics about Jewelry Photography. Or do a Google search on "Jewelry Photography"

Good luck,
Practice, Practice, practice
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Voivod
Jan 25, 2007
On 25 Jan 2007 12:27:32 -0800, "Granny"
scribbled:

mute point

*sigh*
G
Granny
Jan 25, 2007
On Jan 25, 3:09 pm, Voivod wrote:

mute point*sigh*

OOPS! spel chekr didn’t change it to "moot"
*hangs head in shame for showing ignorance*
MH
Mike Hyndman
Jan 25, 2007
"Granny" wrote in message
On Jan 25, 3:09 pm, Voivod wrote:

mute point*sigh*

OOPS! spel chekr didn’t change it to "moot"
*hangs head in shame for showing ignorance*
Granny,
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Weather eye am wrong oar write
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KatWoman
Jan 26, 2007
"Hunt" wrote in message
In article <LnIth.72791$>,
says…
Hi

I want to photograph jewellery and then move the actual piece of jewellery to another image (with a totally white background)

What program can do that?

Thank you,
Samuel

As others have stated, Photoshop is the tool for you.

Also, as others have stated, it’s relatively easy, if you have a good photograph to begin with. For reflective, 3-D subjects, the background should
be considered to be one that will provide the best reflections in the surfaces
of the subject. White might be OK, but probably something in the grey range
will impose the fewest negative reflections, keep lens flare to a minimum. You
can then work on getting the right look of the subject via light, shadow and
reflection. You might have mirrors, lights, reflectors of different colors,
all adding to the subject. Shoot for the subject and don’t worry about exposing for the background – you’ll eliminate it anyway. Same for the reflectors, etc. If they’re in the shot to do the most good, that’s OK,
N
noone
Jan 27, 2007
In article <Umduh.21358$>,
says…
"Hunt" wrote in message
[SNIP]
that was nice of you to type all that HUNT
it is easy for someone who has used PS and knows at least basics
I would like to add to the selection tools mentioned magnetic lasso tool (in the lasso fly out)
as jewelry has nice defined edges it is also an easy select tool and not as difficult to use as the pen

and another tip MACRO lens
for small items

it cannot be said enough and thanks granny
LIGHTING GOOD LIGHTING
sharp nice focusing
garbage in =maybe PS can save it
good photo in=unlimited opportunities to make it incredible

Ah, the Magnetic Lasso. You can see that I do not rely on it much. Thanks for pointing it out, as a newcomer might well like the way that it works – with a bit of practice. Since it hit PS (3 vers. back?), I think I’ve used it four times, and all for quick n’ dirty Selections.

Thanks,
Hunt
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Joe
Jan 27, 2007
(Hunt) wrote:

In article <Umduh.21358$>,
says…
"Hunt" wrote in message
[SNIP]
that was nice of you to type all that HUNT
it is easy for someone who has used PS and knows at least basics
I would like to add to the selection tools mentioned magnetic lasso tool (in the lasso fly out)
as jewelry has nice defined edges it is also an easy select tool and not as difficult to use as the pen

and another tip MACRO lens
for small items

it cannot be said enough and thanks granny
LIGHTING GOOD LIGHTING
sharp nice focusing
garbage in =maybe PS can save it
good photo in=unlimited opportunities to make it incredible

Ah, the Magnetic Lasso. You can see that I do not rely on it much. Thanks for pointing it out, as a newcomer might well like the way that it works – with a bit of practice. Since it hit PS (3 vers. back?), I think I’ve used it four times, and all for quick n’ dirty Selections.

Thanks,
Hunt

Magnetic Lasso is one of many tools for newbie to try while learning Photoshop, and with a very good separation between object and background you may get a so so selection almost good for small displaying. To remove the background you really need some skill (just using simple tool but lot of practicing) and combination of layers and quick mask. And pen also a big help to speed thing up too.

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