Skincolor – in Pseudo

"Dave" wrote in message

Obviously this is cloned photos (or at least partially and painted afterwards) and is not done in Photoshop only. Maybe completely not, but I think this is done on Photoshop & Painter.

My question is how get these colours. I have picked colours from this site and painted with it, but it is not as easy when getting to shading and hi-lighting etc.

http://www.gregbanning.com/Site/Finished%20Art.html

Dave

I’m not at all sure it is obvious these are cloned photos, Mr Banning only mentions illustration, drawing and Corel Painter!!
I can’t see any reference to Photoshop, photography or photographs!!

I must have missed something?

On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:39:46 -0000, "Harry Limey" wrote:

"Dave" wrote in message

Obviously this is cloned photos (or at least partially and painted afterwards) and is not done in Photoshop only. Maybe completely not, but I think this is done on Photoshop & Painter.

My question is how get these colours. I have picked colours from this site and painted with it, but it is not as easy when getting to shading and hi-lighting etc.

http://www.gregbanning.com/Site/Finished%20Art.html

Dave

I’m not at all sure it is obvious these are cloned photos, Mr Banning only mentions illustration, drawing and Corel Painter!!
I can’t see any reference to Photoshop, photography or photographs!!
I must have missed something?

no Harry, you are not missing anything, ‘xcept for the fact that
1. the drawings are (some) so much in detail, I ‘guess’ it is cloned
2. to (pro) Painter users, Photoshop is part and parcel of the toolbox.
3. Cloning is one of the facilities of Painter.

I know Harry, some artist can draw so realistic. Many (who can but do it for money) feel, why would I walk by feet if the car is in the garage:-)

Dave
http://dave.photos.gb.net/p38432092.html
http://dave.photos.gb.net/p38432093.html

http://dave.photos.gb.net/p38432091.html
http://dave.photos.gb.net/p38432095.html

"Dave" wrote in message

no Harry, you are not missing anything, ‘xcept for the fact that
1. the drawings are (some) so much in detail, I ‘guess’ it is cloned
2. to (pro) Painter users, Photoshop is part and parcel of the toolbox.
3. Cloning is one of the facilities of Painter.

I know Harry, some artist can draw so realistic. Many (who can but do it for money) feel, why would I walk by feet if the car is in the garage:-)

Ah, sorry Dave, did not understand!!
Whilst on the subject of Photo realistic, can I point you at a drawing!! by a friend who uses Serif Draw, was one of the cheapest draw programmes going! http://www.flickr.com/photos/14217307@N00/211065104/
(Click on the all sizes button to see it large!!)
I use Serif myself and started this Flickr group for other users, I have been quite impressed with some of the drawings produced! I thought this was a photograph until he submitted a small detail, enlarged!!

On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:29:00 -0000, "Harry Limey" wrote:

"Dave" wrote in message

no Harry, you are not missing anything, ‘xcept for the fact that
1. the drawings are (some) so much in detail, I ‘guess’ it is cloned
2. to (pro) Painter users, Photoshop is part and parcel of the toolbox.
3. Cloning is one of the facilities of Painter.

I know Harry, some artist can draw so realistic. Many (who can but do it for money) feel, why would I walk by feet if the car is in the garage:-)

Ah, sorry Dave, did not understand!!
Whilst on the subject of Photo realistic, can I point you at a drawing!! by a friend who uses Serif Draw, was one of the cheapest draw programmes going! http://www.flickr.com/photos/14217307@N00/211065104/
(Click on the all sizes button to see it large!!)
I use Serif myself and started this Flickr group for other users, I have been quite impressed with some of the drawings produced! I thought this was a photograph until he submitted a small detail, enlarged!!

Buckingham Palace – shucks, it’s good!
But then again, if somebody draw so photo realistic, why not taking a photo:-) We try to let our photos look like paintings, and we try to let our paintings look like photos –
Take this one, look at even the textures. A drawing must obviously be a drawing, and a painting can never have ex millions of colours. That brings us back to my question, the colour one:-)
Thanx for showing me your friends drawing, Harry.

Dave

"Dave" wrote in message

There are people that would remember I have asked quite a time ago about ‘pseudo’ colour. Mike Russell helped and so did tacit and a few more people reacted.

….

http://www.gregbanning.com/Site/Finished%20Art.html

These are hand drawn, and it takes a combination of talent and formal training to get as good as Greg Banning. Youtube has a number of interesting examples of drawings that may be interesting to you. Here are some of them:
http://youtube.com/results?search_query=speed+painting
—
Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com/forum/

On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:24:09 -0700, "Mike Russell" wrote:

"Dave" wrote in message

There are people that would remember I have asked quite a time ago about ‘pseudo’ colour. Mike Russell helped and so did tacit and a few more people reacted.

…

http://www.gregbanning.com/Site/Finished%20Art.html

These are hand drawn, and it takes a combination of talent and formal training to get as good as Greg Banning. Youtube has a number of interesting examples of drawings that may be interesting to you. Here are some of them:
http://youtube.com/results?search_query=speed+painting

Thanks for this link, Mike. It is amazing to see what artists can do with a pencil, (whether it is digital or not:-)

I buy many books as well as magazines on Photoshop, Painter and more. At this moment I’m sitting with books from Jeremy Sutton, Cher Treinen-Pendarvis & Martin Addison on my desk, and is slowly coming to the conclusion that there are more to drawing and painting then what can be learned from books.
Maybe not, but then I need more info:-) You yourself call it a ‘combination of talent and formal training’.

If you have not seen it yet, go to Linda Bergkvist homepage http://www.furiae.com/index.php?view=gallery
Look how she do an eye, hair etc. – this woman’s skills is unbelievable.

I have quite a few books on Painter, but are searching Internet seriously for a video tutorial on it as well. It is though, as if there are no free tutorials available on Painter.

Back to the origin of my posting, if I can not draw like Greg Banning, I can still draw it via cloning, but that is where his way of doing skin colour comes in. It is, what will I call it, pseudo, distressed, or at least there is not millions of colours in it. It is kind of flat painting.

Dave

On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:09:25 +0200, Dave wrote:

I have quite a few books on Painter, but are searching Internet seriously for a video tutorial on it as well. It is though, as if there are no free tutorials available on Painter.

I intended saying:
It is as if
there are no free *video*tutorials available on Painter.

Dave

On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:02:25 +0200, Dave wrote:

On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:29:00 -0000, "Harry Limey" wrote:

"Dave" wrote in message

no Harry, you are not missing anything, ‘xcept for the fact that
1. the drawings are (some) so much in detail, I ‘guess’ it is cloned
2. to (pro) Painter users, Photoshop is part and parcel of the toolbox.
3. Cloning is one of the facilities of Painter.

I know Harry, some artist can draw so realistic. Many (who can but do it for money) feel, why would I walk by feet if the car is in the garage:-)

Ah, sorry Dave, did not understand!!
Whilst on the subject of Photo realistic, can I point you at a drawing!! by a friend who uses Serif Draw, was one of the cheapest draw programmes going! http://www.flickr.com/photos/14217307@N00/211065104/
(Click on the all sizes button to see it large!!)
I use Serif myself and started this Flickr group for other users, I have been quite impressed with some of the drawings produced! I thought this was a photograph until he submitted a small detail, enlarged!!

Buckingham Palace – shucks, it’s good!
But then again, if somebody draw so photo realistic, why not taking a photo:-) We try to let our photos look like paintings, and we try to let our paintings look like photos –
Take this one, look at even the textures. A drawing must obviously be a drawing, and a painting can never have ex millions of colours. That brings us back to my question, the colour one:-)
Thanx for showing me your friends drawing, Harry.

Dave

Take a close look at a Rembrant Portrait… Pretty much any of then. Look at the transitions of color from light to shadow. Then stop and think that this guy made his own paints AND brushes!!!!

It’s as close to continious tone as you can get without a photo.

Truely amazing.

"Dave" wrote in message

On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:24:09 -0700, "Mike Russell" wrote:

"Dave" wrote in message

There are people that would remember I have asked quite a time ago about ‘pseudo’ colour. Mike Russell helped and so did tacit and a few more people reacted.

…

http://www.gregbanning.com/Site/Finished%20Art.html

These are hand drawn, and it takes a combination of talent and formal training to get as good as Greg Banning. Youtube has a number of interesting examples of drawings that may be interesting to you. Here are some of them:
http://youtube.com/results?search_query=speed+painting

Thanks for this link, Mike. It is amazing to see what artists can do with a pencil, (whether it is digital or not:-)

I buy many books as well as magazines on Photoshop, Painter and more. At this moment I’m sitting with books from Jeremy Sutton, Cher Treinen-Pendarvis & Martin Addison on my desk, and is slowly coming to the conclusion that there are more to drawing and painting then what can be learned from books.
Maybe not, but then I need more info:-) You yourself call it a ‘combination of talent and formal training’.

If you have not seen it yet, go to Linda Bergkvist homepage http://www.furiae.com/index.php?view=gallery
Look how she do an eye, hair etc. – this woman’s skills is unbelievable.

I have quite a few books on Painter, but are searching Internet seriously for a video tutorial on it as well. It is though, as if there are no free tutorials available on Painter.

Back to the origin of my posting, if I can not draw like Greg Banning, I can still draw it via cloning, but that is where his way of doing skin colour comes in. It is, what will I call it, pseudo, distressed, or at least there is not millions of colours in it. It is kind of flat painting.

Dave

great link Dave
wonderful work
and her links go to some other really good artists

On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:53:55 -0400, "KatWoman"

Dave

great link Dave
wonderful work
and her links go to some other really good artists

she’s incredible, is she not:-0

Dave