Proposal to ban photography

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Mickey Mouse
Mar 23, 2007
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Thanks to Clem de Silva for forwarding the following petition notice:

Proposal to Ban Public Photography?

According to newspaper reports there is a proposal to ban all public photography before a Federal Government Committee in Australia.

An online petition against this is at:
http://www.petitiononline.com/ausphoto/petition.html

Commented Keith Shipton, editor of Photo & Imaging Trade News, "The deeper issue here is the equation of "photographer equals pervert" and if we don’t push back on that there’s a real danger that timid souls will tend to ban themselves from public photography. Or we’ll get bullies or fools assuming nefarious behaviour when photo enthusiasts or tourists start snapping in public, and insist they cease and desist, or worse, get physicial about it.".

If this gets passed does it mean we’re all perverts?

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Mike Russell
Mar 23, 2007
"Mickey Mouse" wrote in message
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Proposal to Ban Public Photography?
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If this gets passed does it mean we’re all perverts?

Are you sure this isn’t a typo, and they really meant "pubic photography"?– Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com/forum/
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Mickey Mouse
Mar 24, 2007
Unfortunately my friend, it’s no typo, I only wish it was. Isn’t it typical of knee-jerk paranoia government official reaction.
It appears to stem firstly after Sept 11 and now it also appears that because some idiots take it upon themselves to attach
a camera to their shoes or what ever to upskirt females we have all to be branded as perverts or terrorists. The word democracy
and freedom to those like us who should be treated as law abiding citizens might be heading for police states. Is Democracy and freedom becoming words of the past. Ironically if you stand on a soapbox and ridicule this country, set fire to our flag and spit on it you won’t get arrested. Makes no sense. Are we heading to be only able to take photos of flowers, indoors???

Lucky country? Yeah, once upon a time!!!

"Mike Russell" wrote in message
"Mickey Mouse" wrote in message

Proposal to Ban Public Photography?

If this gets passed does it mean we’re all perverts?

Are you sure this isn’t a typo, and they really meant "pubic photography"?–
Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com/forum/

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Edvado
Mar 24, 2007
"Mickey Mouse" wrote:

Proposal to Ban Public Photography?

According to newspaper reports there is a proposal to ban all public photography before a Federal Government Committee in Australia.
An online petition against this is at:
http://www.petitiononline.com/ausphoto/petition.html

Commented Keith Shipton, editor of Photo & Imaging Trade News, "The deeper issue here is the equation of "photographer equals pervert" and if we don’t push back on that there’s a real danger that timid souls will tend to ban themselves from public photography. Or we’ll get bullies or fools assuming nefarious behaviour when photo enthusiasts or tourists start snapping in public, and insist they cease and desist, or worse, get physicial about it.".

If this gets passed does it mean we’re all perverts?

Is it April 1st in Austrailia already?
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Mike Russell
Mar 24, 2007
"Mickey Mouse" wrote in message
Unfortunately my friend, it’s no typo, I only wish it was. Isn’t it typical
….
This strikes me as much ado about nothing.
….
Are we heading to be only able to take
photos of flowers, indoors???

Well, Maplethorpe did.

Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com/forum/
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Infinitech
Mar 24, 2007
Mike Russell wrote:
"Mickey Mouse" wrote in message
Unfortunately my friend, it’s no typo, I only wish it was. Isn’t it typical

This strikes me as much ado about nothing.

Are we heading to be only able to take
photos of flowers, indoors???

Well, Maplethorpe did.

He did pubic too (typo?) 😉
and what pubic!!!!


Infinitech
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Fat Sam
Mar 24, 2007
Mickey Mouse wrote:
Unfortunately my friend, it’s no typo, I only wish it was. Isn’t it typical of knee-jerk paranoia government official reaction. It appears to stem firstly after Sept 11 and now it also appears that because some idiots take it upon themselves to attach
a camera to their shoes or what ever to upskirt females we have all to be branded as perverts or terrorists. The word democracy and freedom to those like us who should be treated as law abiding citizens might be heading for police states. Is Democracy and freedom becoming words of the past. Ironically if you stand on a soapbox and ridicule this country, set fire to our flag and spit on it you won’t get arrested.

Begs the question.
What would happen if you tried to photograph someone doing that? Would you get arrested for taking a photo, or would you get let off as you’d be an accomplice to the act?
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krONik
Mar 25, 2007
When observing _Edvado’s_ postulating to Cyberia, on 24/03/2007 1:17 PM perpend:

Is it April 1st in Austrailia already?

NO it isn’t. There are two simple reasons for this:

1) Bonsai Howard is a dictator. Check out his WorkChoices legislation as a prime example. His only interest is to help big business screw the worker so that he can get some prime board positions when he is eventually turfed out of office.

2) Bonsai Howard wishes he could press that history reverse button and send the country back to 1950 when the women were barefoot and pregnant and chained in their kitchens.

At any rate, we’ll be well shut of him come the next Federal election. *Fingers X’d*


Regards: *krONik* =8^)
"Somewhere … something *incredible* is waiting to be known!" Dr Carl Sagan [1939 – 1996]
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Edvado
Mar 25, 2007
Is it April 1st in Austrailia already?

NO it isn’t. There are two simple reasons for this:

1) Bonsai Howard is a dictator. Check out his WorkChoices legislation as
a prime example. His only interest is to help big business screw the worker so that he can get some prime board positions when he is eventually turfed out of office.

2) Bonsai Howard wishes he could press that history reverse button and send the country back to 1950 when the women were barefoot and pregnant and chained in their kitchens.

So he’s the reason it’s not April 1st yet?
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krONik
Mar 26, 2007
When observing _Edvado’s_ postulating to Cyberia, on 26/03/2007 7:55 AM perpend:

Is it April 1st in Austrailia already?
NO it isn’t. There are two simple reasons for this:

1) Bonsai Howard is a dictator. Check out his WorkChoices legislation as
a prime example. His only interest is to help big business screw the worker so that he can get some prime board positions when he is eventually turfed out of office.

2) Bonsai Howard wishes he could press that history reverse button and send the country back to 1950 when the women were barefoot and pregnant and chained in their kitchens.

So he’s the reason it’s not April 1st yet?

Good catch Edvado! 10 points for you …


Regards: *krONik* =8^)
"Somewhere … something *incredible* is waiting to be known!" Dr Carl Sagan [1939 – 1996]
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James French
Mar 27, 2007
Remember years ago after a nut in Austrailia killed a bunch of innocent people, the Austrailian Federal (Feudal) government banned all guns. Whenever guns are banned, government abuse gets worse, and crime goes up. Now they want to ban photography? Why don’t they just get honest and form a communist regime similar to North Korea? People have forgotten that rights come from God, not government, because what they government can grant, they can regulate, control, or ban all together.
James
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James French
Mar 27, 2007
What did the Australians fight and die for in WWII against the Nazi, Japanese and Italian dictatorships? So that Australia can become a dictatorship itself… this is nothing but the road to tyranny. I am not even living in Australia, but in America, and we have our own bad open borders, loss of middle class, loss of everything because of the Trilateralist, New World Order people, the same type of
"elites" (Trilateral Commission, Council On Foriegn Relations, Fabian Society etc.) that want to create that one world government-they are closer to it… Bush, his father and his father before him joined one of the secret elite societies, The Skull And Bones, at Yale. These secret soceities are secret for an important reason. They don’t want us to know what they plan to do. They are full of many wicked people, bent on Satanic conspiracy, devilish ideas and none of them involving freedom for the people, prosperity for the people and our best interests at heart. We have failed "leadership" throughout the world, in government, religion and the corporate world. Most leaders are greedy bastards who would sell out their mother if it would help them get ahead.
James
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Mike Russell
Mar 29, 2007
Whether you believe this stuff or not, you would be more convincing if you at least thought about how you sound to others.

Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com/forum/

"James French" wrote in message
What did the Australians fight and die for in WWII against the Nazi, Japanese and Italian dictatorships? So that Australia can become a dictatorship itself… this is nothing but the road to tyranny. I am not even living in Australia, but in America, and we have our own bad open borders, loss of middle class, loss of everything because of the Trilateralist, New World Order people, the same type of
"elites" (Trilateral Commission, Council On Foriegn Relations, Fabian Society etc.) that want to create that one world government-they are closer to it… Bush, his father and his father before him joined one of the secret elite societies, The Skull And Bones, at Yale. These secret soceities are secret for an important reason. They don’t want us to know what they plan to do. They are full of many wicked people, bent on Satanic conspiracy, devilish ideas and none of them involving freedom for the people, prosperity for the people and our best interests at heart. We have failed "leadership" throughout the world, in government, religion and the corporate world. Most leaders are greedy bastards who would sell out their mother if it would help them get ahead.
James

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KatWoman
Mar 29, 2007
"Mike Russell" wrote in message
Whether you believe this stuff or not, you would be more convincing if you at least thought about how you sound to others.

Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com/forum/

"James French" wrote in message
What did the Australians fight and die for in WWII against the Nazi, Japanese and Italian dictatorships? So that Australia can become a dictatorship itself… this is nothing but the road to tyranny. I am not even living in Australia, but in America, and we have our own bad open borders, loss of middle class, loss of everything because of the Trilateralist, New World Order people, the same type of
"elites" (Trilateral Commission, Council On Foriegn Relations, Fabian Society etc.) that want to create that one world government-they are closer to it… Bush, his father and his father before him joined one of the secret elite societies, The Skull And Bones, at Yale. These secret soceities are secret for an important reason. They don’t want us to know what they plan to do. They are full of many wicked people, bent on Satanic conspiracy, devilish ideas and none of them involving freedom for the people, prosperity for the people and our best interests at heart. We have failed "leadership" throughout the world, in government, religion and the corporate world. Most leaders are greedy bastards who would sell out their mother if it would help them get ahead.
James

Oh James you must be a fan of this nut case from down unda, Pete Farley http://www.4truthseekers.org/
I was thinking about NWO
looking for info to verify all the rumors, did some research His stuff was very plausible until he started talking about reptilian beings seems he gets ideas from popular movies
and other new age wiggers
for money of course he will "HEAL" you and help you fight the NWO and the space aliens who control them

a good way to make propaganda and religion palatable is to make it sound similar to the truth
sad so many are duped by another’s person’s madness
group delusion due to belief in some egotist’s bi-polar fantasy ala Jim Jones and Raelians, David Koresh etc

what’s the frequency Kenneth??
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RicSeyler
Mar 30, 2007


Infinitech wrote:

Mike Russell wrote:

"Mickey Mouse" wrote in message

Unfortunately my friend, it’s no typo, I only wish it was. Isn’t it typical

This strikes me as much ado about nothing.


Are we heading to be only able to take
photos of flowers, indoors???
Well, Maplethorpe did.

He did pubic too (typo?) 😉
and what pubic!!!!
LOLOL And he could be really "anal" about it sometimes!


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James French
Mar 31, 2007
First of all, I do not follow any group, I get information from many sources. Second of all, you apparently have not researched the subject. I have spent time since 1985 studying the bible, and the events of history and the plans, quotations of the elite. If you read what they actually have said, and seen what they planned have come to pass, then you would not be calling people dilussional etc. You have made a general attack upon my post by implying very negative things about me, such as I believe in aliens who are reptilian etc., which I have never believed in. Interesting how you use typical attack the poster, when you have not stated anything about these varioius secret societies. Do they really exist? Why are they so secret? If there is no one world conspiracy, then why are all of these elite groups constantly pressing for globalism, destruction of individual nationality, and attack of individual freedoms?

The internationalists create the wars, World War I, II and III was planned by Albert Pike in the late 19th Century, and the third world war was (is now) to be between the Christians and Jews vs. the Muslim world. This was all referenced in a book entitled "Pawns In The Game" by Carr, written in the late 1950’s. Just another one of those extreme coincidences…Kuhn and Loeb banking house financed the Russian Revolution. Lenin ordered the Crown Jewels to be sent to Kuhn and Loeb as payment for their "investment" in the revolution.

Interestingly, even Winston Churchill stated "From the days of Sparticus–Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, to those of
Trotsky. …this world wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization…has been steadily growing." 1920.

If you don’t know the story about Trotsky being stopped by the Canadian Mounted Police with a big bag of money he wanted to take to Russia, and the White House call from Colonel House set Trotsky free, then you don’t know history. I have spent a long time studying the history of banking, of law, of the Bible…many history books, and quotations of great men, who know about the NWO, and who recognize its great power…though it will fail finally, at the return of the Messiah.

Oh, do you believe in the Messiah? You fail to see history, because you fail to see the truth, which is evident. Keep believing those fairy tales that you accuse me of believing in, like that if we can just get that one world government working under the UN, we will have a utopia, or that if we ban all the guns, we can end crime, once and for all…and all the other lies that the propaganda mills churn out through multinational conglomerate corporate entities that control almost everything even now. Will you be one of those people that will take the "mark of the beast" chip on your hand or forehead, and receive a whole new line of credit from the Satanic world system if you are alive to see the day of the son of Satan, the Antichrist take his place in the world stage?

Perhaps these questions are too difficult for you? Where are all the policies coming from that are destroying the middle class, that are destroying our national borders, individuality, and even public photography? You tell me, is it all by accident according to you? If you read what the secret groups said, which they then later impliment, then you would not be critical, but rather disgusted over the loss of our rights and true prosperity.
James
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Mike Russell
Mar 31, 2007
"James French" wrote in message
….
Perhaps these questions are too difficult for you? Where are all the

No – but you are making the propeller on my beanie spin so fast it makes it impossible to read your stuff. There is something about your writing that screams "I’m a nutball". Suggestion: use fewer adjectives or something, and less talk about aliens and religion.

Bye now.

Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com/forum/
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James French
Mar 31, 2007
Again, you resort to personal attacks, instead of addressing the issues. I did not initiate personal attack, you did, and only then did I counter. This is fact is one of the techniques used by both the new world order, as well as those who have no inteligent argument. Again, address my questions, or can you explain why or countries leadership is all for globalism, and in fact, what does globalism mean? To you, your rights, your job and career, your pocket book. Will you want to be taxed by the U.N. as well as City, County, State, Federal taxes?

Or, do you just want to stick your head in the sand, and pretend that all is grand, and hope that everything turns out OK?
Have you read any books on the Federal Reserve? On the Trilateral Commission, on The Skull And Bones Secret Society, their goals, membership etc. I think not. Do you even know what money is, as compared to the circulating evidences of debt that you have in your bank account and wallet? To an inteligent person, that doesn’t know the answers to any of these questions, it should stir some interest in why things have and are going in a certain direction. I assume judging from the previous posts, that you will attack again. Instead, why don’t you pick up one of the several thousand books that are available on these subjects, do some reading, and become informed, instead of IGNORANT. If you did that, you wouldn’t even have to admit to it, not even post, just go read and study like I did, then draw your own conclusions, like I did. A rare book that you could start on is "None Dare Call It Conspiracy," by Gary Allen. Last time I checked, it was out of print, but check Amazon.com.

James
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KatWoman
Apr 1, 2007
"James French" wrote in message
First of all, I do not follow any group, I get information from many sources. Second of all, you apparently have not researched the subject. I have spent time since 1985 studying the bible, and the events of history and the plans, quotations of the elite. If you read what they actually have said, and seen what they planned have come to pass, then you would not be calling people dilussional etc. You have made a general attack upon my post by implying very negative things about me, such as I believe in aliens who are reptilian etc., which I have never believed in. Interesting how you use typical attack the poster, when you have not stated anything about these varioius secret societies. Do they really exist? Why are they so secret? If there is no one world conspiracy, then why are all of these elite groups constantly pressing for globalism, destruction of individual nationality, and attack of individual freedoms?

The internationalists create the wars, World War I, II and III was planned by Albert Pike in the late 19th Century, and the third world war was (is now) to be between the Christians and Jews vs. the Muslim world. This was all referenced in a book entitled "Pawns In The Game" by Carr, written in the late 1950’s. Just another one of those extreme coincidences…Kuhn and Loeb banking house financed the Russian Revolution. Lenin ordered the Crown Jewels to be sent to Kuhn and Loeb as payment for their "investment" in the revolution.
Interestingly, even Winston Churchill stated "From the days of Sparticus–Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, to those of
Trotsky. …this world wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization…has been steadily growing." 1920.

If you don’t know the story about Trotsky being stopped by the Canadian Mounted Police with a big bag of money he wanted to take to Russia, and the White House call from Colonel House set Trotsky free, then you don’t know history. I have spent a long time studying the history of banking, of law, of the Bible…many history books, and quotations of great men, who know about the NWO, and who recognize its great power…though it will fail finally, at the return of the Messiah.

Oh, do you believe in the Messiah? You fail to see history, because you fail to see the truth, which is evident. Keep believing those fairy tales that you accuse me of believing in, like that if we can just get that one world government working under the UN, we will have a utopia, or that if we ban all the guns, we can end crime, once and for all…and all the other lies that the propaganda mills churn out through multinational conglomerate corporate entities that control almost everything even now. Will you be one of those people that will take the "mark of the beast" chip on your hand or forehead, and receive a whole new line of credit from the Satanic world system if you are alive to see the day of the son of Satan, the Antichrist take his place in the world stage?

Perhaps these questions are too difficult for you? Where are all the policies coming from that are destroying the middle class, that are destroying our national borders, individuality, and even public photography? You tell me, is it all by accident according to you? If you read what the secret groups said, which they then later impliment, then you would not be critical, but rather disgusted over the loss of our rights and true prosperity.
James

I have considered the conspiracies and I have considered the conspiracy believers
I have considered religion and the religion believers
Is your truth so weak it cannot stand ridicule of one person? I am sure I am not the first skeptic you encountered.
You think you will gain converts to your beliefs stated so stridently just like the Christian cultists who threaten me with HELL for denying the divinity of Jesus??

do not put words in my mouth
I never discussed my view of gun control, my faith or lack of it, my opinion of the power elite, class wars etc with you
You are free to believe what you like, what you think about me and my views so am I, I am free to make fun of conspiracy theorists
good luck trying to buy a sense of humor and don’t drink the Kool-Aid

PS: If you sincerely believe in the GOD you mention above why not learn to TRUST that life on planet earth is under HIS Will not ours?
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granny
Apr 1, 2007
"James French" wrote in message
You have
made a general attack upon my post by implying very negative things about me, such as I believe in aliens who are reptilian etc., which I have never believed in. Interesting how you use typical attack the poster, when you have not stated anything about these varioius secret societies.
"KatWoman" wrote in message
good luck trying to buy a sense of humor and don’t drink the Kool-Aid


I gave up on this thread right at the beginning as I thought it was silly… But when I saw Kat’s remark about the Kool-Aid… I *Laughed out Loud* and thought, "Please DO drink the Kool-Aid"… Anyway here is my 2 cents worth, which makes absolutely no sense at all, like the rest of this thread..

James.. I never trust a speaker who chooses the fifty-dollar words over the two-dollar ones. Most posters who select to debate have no humor because they have no personalities of their own. Others spend so much time trying to impress their colleagues that they neglect speaking in an understandable language. Poor debaters spend their lives making the simple even more difficult. People really respond to plain, undiluted truth, like spoken by KatWoman. I will never be impressed with someone who cites obscure books or unknown authors, just for show. Nor will be impressed by those who critique your positions, but never state their own. Remember this simple fact— Jesus Christ, Muhammad, Confucius and a host of others, took the most profound and difficult concepts and explained them so a young boy could understand them. They used parables, not lofty syllogisms. True debaters makes the difficult clear.

Debate honestly or shut the hell up!

Hmmmm…. could this be misinterpreted as a personal attack? I hope not!

BTW… James, I found these words floating in cyberspace… feel free to copy and use them whenever you feel the need to be defensive.. (Which, I assume, that compulsion overtakes you often..) the words don’t mean shit but they sound KEWL!!

Following the example set by other posters in other groups, the creator of this post has withheld the author/source of the article above because the author/source is not relevant to the merit of the article’s content — except to whining liberals and big State collaborators who have no intellectual, emotional or moral capacity to HONESTLY debate the points made in the article! Consequently, their typical response is to attack the author or source or poster. Withholding attribution denies these pathetic, intellectually dysfunctional critics the opportunity to attack anything BUT the content or the poster. Attacking the poster is evidence that you have already lost the debate.

Soooo… James, I lost… You win!! … I don’t care!!

OH Yea, back to topic… I am sure that Online Petitions are taken seriously and taken into due consideration when it comes to legislation.. That’s why I rushed to sign…

"Granny"
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tony cooper
Apr 4, 2007
On 27 Mar 2007 01:20:00 -0700, "James French" wrote:

Bush, his father and his father before him joined one
of the secret elite societies, The Skull And Bones, at Yale. These secret soceities are secret for an important reason. They don’t want us to know what they plan to do. They are full of many wicked people, bent on Satanic conspiracy, devilish ideas and none of them involving freedom for the people, prosperity for the people and our best interests at heart.

Damn. I was in a secret society in college: a fraternity. We did have some wicked members and some devilish ideas, but no Satanists that I remember. There were some Young Republicans, though.

I will admit that we didn’t have fuck-all to do with freedom for the people, prosperity for the people, or anyone’s best interest at heart. Mostly we got drunk and tried to get laid. We were more successful at getting drunk.



Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL
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jaSPAMc
Apr 4, 2007
On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 21:52:21 -0400, Tony Cooper
found these unused words floating about:

On 27 Mar 2007 01:20:00 -0700, "James French" wrote:

Bush, his father and his father before him joined one
of the secret elite societies, The Skull And Bones, at Yale. These secret soceities are secret for an important reason. They don’t want us to know what they plan to do. They are full of many wicked people, bent on Satanic conspiracy, devilish ideas and none of them involving freedom for the people, prosperity for the people and our best interests at heart.

Damn. I was in a secret society in college: a fraternity. We did have some wicked members and some devilish ideas, but no Satanists that I remember. There were some Young Republicans, though.
I will admit that we didn’t have fuck-all to do with freedom for the people, prosperity for the people, or anyone’s best interest at heart. Mostly we got drunk and tried to get laid. We were more successful at getting drunk.

Yeah, butt if you run for orifice … these lefties will bring out that fact of a ‘secret society’ to ‘prove’ (shudder) that you’re EVIL !!!

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