Recycle Bin deletes some images, but not others.

MM
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Marie_Maier
Aug 21, 2004
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Don’t know if this is a WinXP quirk, or a PS7 one. In PS, I’m often refused to "save" changes on some images because "they are being used by another person or program". I’ve had to change the file name to save them. A similar response occurs when I’m trying to rid deleted images from the RB. Everything in PS is closed down, but that message creeps woth some of them up anyway. It gives a strange number file name "B214" for each undeleteable image. I can remove some of those in SafeMode.

Yes, I have emptied old preferences too.

Suggestions?
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YrbkMgr
Aug 21, 2004
I’m not sure what the question really is, but consider this.

There has been an issue with PS6/7 (don’t know if it happens in CS) that users get that error message. It is unreproducable by Adobe, and in fact, there does not seem to be any rhyme or reason for users.

What *I* have found, is that if you close all open images in photoshop except for the one you’re trying to save, you can save your image without the error message.

Does it make sense? No. Does it work? Yes.

Just yesterday it happened to me again, and I NEEDED to save two of the open images. Luckily I was able to copy one of them into clipboard, close it, save the other image, close it, then File|New, followed by Paste, and then save that one.

Peace,
Tony
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Q_Photo
Aug 22, 2004
Marie, Do you have psicon.dll installed? I have had much less trouble (like your problem) since I uninstalled it. Actually, I placed a ~ infront of it. That may not be what is causing your problem but I just thought I’d mention it.
FN
Fred_Nirque
Aug 22, 2004
Also make sure that no viewing programs such as Thumbs Plus, ACDSee or Windows Picture & Fax viewer are open in the background and displaying info on that file. This can sometimes also happen under certain conditions if you use those programs to launch the file into PS.

Fred.
MM
Marie_Maier
Aug 22, 2004
<What *I* have found, is that if you close all open images in photoshop except for the one you’re trying to save, you can save your image without the error message.> Well,YrbkMgr, that’s exactly what I’ve been doing with no success. And, Q Photo–yes, I found that .dll in Search. What program do I open it with so the ~ can be inserted? And Fred, (HI!) no other programs are running.

I haven’t tried copying the file to the clipboard–but even so, don’t you end up saving it to a new file with a new name anyway?

This error is so crazy!
MM
Marie_Maier
Aug 22, 2004
(Sorry, this was an error and I could’nt get rid of it.)
FN
Fred_Nirque
Aug 22, 2004
Hi back, Marie,

A long shot, but I’ve been driven nuts by weird things happening along these lines in the past – try a diagnostic startup: Start>Run, then type in:> msconfig then hit OK, then highlight the diagnostic start button (but make a record of which programs are checked in the "startup" tab first so you can restore your startup programs later), reboot & see if PS still does this.

If it doesn’t (again, its a long shot), try to find the culprit background program by successively enabling the disabled programs in the Startup tab of msconfig and seeing when PS starts behaving strangely again. I’m suspecting something is latching on to your image files because PS surely does not behave like this for me or most other people.

Fred.
MM
Marie_Maier
Aug 22, 2004
THanks Fred. I’ll give that a try. Not having done a "diagnostic" before, it seems you are suggesting that the Startup enabled programs are removed and then must be rechecked again?

I’ll take a look.
Aug 22, 2004
Here’s another long shot, from someone who hasn’t had the problem:

When you run into this problem…try making a duplicate image:

Window—»Documents—»New Window…

Try saving the duplicate.

Worth a try, I suppose.
MM
Marie_Maier
Aug 22, 2004
Phosphor: Hm-m. Actually, I always "duplicate" an image before I work on it, and have had that problem. Opening a new window and then moving the image to it is about the same thing, isn’t it?

Fred: Yeah gads! I tried the diagnostic startup and when I looked at the startup items, EVERY single one had been checked. I checked only the ones I knew I needed: monitor stuff, Adobe Gamma, Norton’s and Tablet. THere is so much Microsoft stuff there that I have no idea what would be safe to undo. When I tried out some work, the printers were off and inspite of having the Tablet.exe checked, the pen wouldn’t work.

I set it back to its awful normal. I think I’ll have to work that going backwards by taking off 1 item at a time and trying stuff out. That will be a long process but I’ll stay with it.
QP
Q_Photo
Aug 22, 2004
Marie,
All you need to do with psicon.dll is find it on your computer and left click the file name and pick “rename” and just ADD the ~ at start of file name. This way it is on your computer, not deleted. But Photoshop won’t find it because it has been renamed. If you want to use it again simply rename again by getting rid of ~.
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Grass_Hopper
Aug 22, 2004
QPhoto,
did you mean she should *right* click on the file name to see the dropdown list of options, of which rename is a choice?

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dave_milbut
Aug 22, 2004
you need to restart the system after renaming psicon.dll.
MM
Marie_Maier
Aug 22, 2004
Duh!!!! Thanks for the reminder Q Photo. Don’t know why my brain didn’t click on that. So, it’s done—and restart too Dave M…..

I think I scared the Recyle Bin (sh!) It’s not doing anything stupid —at the moment………thanks all…..MM
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Fred_Nirque
Aug 23, 2004
Marie,

Diagnostic will do that – it takes everything peripheral out and so gives you a clue as to whether anything there is causing a problem. In the past I’ve done this and, whilst not always identifying the problem I was chasing, it has sometimes alerted me to problems I wasn’t aware I was having (mainly to do with things hanging or being slow).

Did you try to run PS whilst in diagnostic startup mode at all, and if so did the problem go away? I realize it makes things a disaster area when in use, but it’s best to persevere.

You can speed things up by disabling the first half – if the problem persists, then it is in the second half. Then disable half of those, same deal, then half of the remaining etc etc.

Fred.
QP
Q_Photo
Aug 23, 2004
Marie and Grass Hopper,
It is *RIGHT* click. Sorry for saying left click. Sometimes I type before my brain is engaged.

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