Image manipulation – please help

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May 3, 2007
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I wonder if you can help.

I am fairly new to Photoshop and want to do something but have no idea how to go about it.

This is what I want to do, I hope you understand my explanation.

Take a rectangular piece of wood; it has 2 wide sides and 2 narrow sides. I am looking at one of the two wide sides.
I want to turn the piece of wood slowly until I am looking at one of the narrow sides. Then, I want to continue turning until I am looking at the back of the piece of wood (i.e I’m looking at the second wide side which is the back of where I started).
Then I want to continue turning until I am looking at the second narrow side. Finally I want to turn again until I am back where I started.

I know this is not the easiest thing to explain but I hope you get the idea.

Does anyone know how I can do this?
Does anyone know what it is called? I have tried rotate but it does not do what I want (i.e it moves my image in the same way a clock hand moves and this is not what I want).

I hope you can help me.

I appreciate any help or information given.

Thanks!
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May 3, 2007
On Thu, 3 May 2007 12:47:36 +0100, "Neil Hindry" found these unused words floating
about:

I wonder if you can help.

I am fairly new to Photoshop and want to do something but have no idea how to go about it.

This is what I want to do, I hope you understand my explanation.
Take a rectangular piece of wood; it has 2 wide sides and 2 narrow sides. I am looking at one of the two wide sides.
I want to turn the piece of wood slowly until I am looking at one of the narrow sides. Then, I want to continue turning until I am looking at the back of the piece of wood (i.e I’m looking at the second wide side which is the back of where I started).
Then I want to continue turning until I am looking at the second narrow side. Finally I want to turn again until I am back where I started.
I know this is not the easiest thing to explain but I hope you get the idea.
Does anyone know how I can do this?
Does anyone know what it is called? I have tried rotate but it does not do what I want (i.e it moves my image in the same way a clock hand moves and this is not what I want).

I hope you can help me.

I appreciate any help or information given.

Thanks!
Wrong program, you need a 3D modeling one. Build a wire frame, then skin and then ‘rotate’.
R
ronviers
May 3, 2007
Hi Neil,

Make a new empty layer above the layer you want to rotate about z. Fill it with a linear gradient in the direction you want it to turn. Save that layer as a PSD.
Flip it and save it again.
Set the displace filter to the axis you want it to turn and in what amount.
Apply the displace filter 10 (or whatever amount you want) times each time to a new layer.
Mask the unwanted parts of each layer.
Group that set of images.
Repeat that entire process for all four sides of the block. Now you have 40 layers in four groups.
Go to the layer comps palette and create a new state for each position.
Go to the animation palette and add a frame for each state. For the "slowly" part just add a delay on each frame.

There you have it – a rotating block of wood.

Good luck,
Ron
R
ronviers
May 3, 2007
Hi Neil,

Make a new empty layer above the layer you want to rotate about z. Fill it with a linear gradient in the direction you want it to turn. Save that layer as a PSD.
Flip it and save it again.
Set the displace filter to the axis you want it to turn and in what amount.
Apply the displace filter 10 (or whatever amount you want) times each time to a new layer.
Mask the unwanted parts of each layer.
Group that set of images.
Repeat that entire process for all four sides of the block. Now you have 40 layers in four groups.
Go to the layer comps palette and create a new state for each position.
Go to the animation palette and add a frame for each state. For the "slowly" part just add a delay on each frame.

There you have it – a rotating block of wood.

Good luck,
Ron
R
ronviers
May 3, 2007
Hi Neil,

Make a new empty layer above the layer you want to rotate about z. Fill it with a linear gradient in the direction you want it to turn. Save that layer as a PSD.
Flip it and save it again.
Set the displace filter to the axis you want it to turn and in what amount.
Apply the displace filter 10 (or whatever amount you want) times each time to a new layer.
Mask the unwanted parts of each layer.
Group that set of images.
Repeat that entire process for all four sides of the block. Now you have 40 layers in four groups.
Go to the layer comps palette and create a new state for each position.
Go to the animation palette and add a frame for each state. For the "slowly" part just add a delay on each frame.

There you have it – a rotating block of wood.

Good luck,
Ron
R
ronviers
May 3, 2007
On May 3, 6:47 am, "Neil Hindry"
wrote:
I wonder if you can help.

I am fairly new to Photoshop and want to do something but have no idea how to go about it.

This is what I want to do, I hope you understand my explanation.
Take a rectangular piece of wood; it has 2 wide sides and 2 narrow sides. I am looking at one of the two wide sides.
I want to turn the piece of wood slowly until I am looking at one of the narrow sides. Then, I want to continue turning until I am looking at the back of the piece of wood (i.e I’m looking at the second wide side which is the back of where I started).
Then I want to continue turning until I am looking at the second narrow side. Finally I want to turn again until I am back where I started.
I know this is not the easiest thing to explain but I hope you get the idea.
Does anyone know how I can do this?
Does anyone know what it is called? I have tried rotate but it does not do what I want (i.e it moves my image in the same way a clock hand moves and this is not what I want).

I hope you can help me.

I appreciate any help or information given.

Thanks!
Hi Neil,

Make a new empty layer above the layer you want to rotate about z. Fill it with a linear gradient in the direction you want it to turn. Save that layer as a PSD.
Flip it and save it again.
Set the displace filter to the axis you want it to turn and in what amount.
Apply the displace filter 10 (or whatever amount you want) times each time to a new layer.
Mask the unwanted parts of each layer.
Group that set of images.
Repeat that entire process for all four sides of the block. Now you have 40 layers in four groups.
Go to the layer comps palette and create a new state for each position.
Go to the animation palette and add a frame for each state. For the "slowly" part just add a delay on each frame.

There you have it – a rotating block of wood.

Good luck,
Ron

BTW, I had some real problems getting this to post so if it shows up more than once blame google.
R
ronviers
May 3, 2007
On May 3, 6:47 am, "Neil Hindry"
wrote:
I wonder if you can help.

I am fairly new to Photoshop and want to do something but have no idea how to go about it.

This is what I want to do, I hope you understand my explanation.
Take a rectangular piece of wood; it has 2 wide sides and 2 narrow sides. I am looking at one of the two wide sides.
I want to turn the piece of wood slowly until I am looking at one of the narrow sides. Then, I want to continue turning until I am looking at the back of the piece of wood (i.e I’m looking at the second wide side which is the back of where I started).
Then I want to continue turning until I am looking at the second narrow side. Finally I want to turn again until I am back where I started.
I know this is not the easiest thing to explain but I hope you get the idea.
Does anyone know how I can do this?
Does anyone know what it is called? I have tried rotate but it does not do what I want (i.e it moves my image in the same way a clock hand moves and this is not what I want).

I hope you can help me.

I appreciate any help or information given.

Thanks!

Hi Neil,

Make a new empty layer above the layer you want to rotate about z. Fill it with a linear gradient in the direction you want it to turn. Save that layer as a PSD.
Flip it and save it again.
Set the displace filter to the axis you want it to turn and in what amount.
Apply the displace filter 10 (or whatever amount you want) times each time to a new layer.
Mask the unwanted parts of each layer.
Group that set of images.
Repeat that entire process for all four sides of the block. Now you have 40 layers in four groups.
Go to the layer comps palette and create a new state for each position.
Go to the animation palette and add a frame for each state. For the "slowly" part just add a delay on each frame.

There you have it – a rotating block of wood.

Good luck,
Ron
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Voivod
May 3, 2007
On 3 May 2007 09:28:37 -0700, ""
scribbled:

BTW, I had some real problems getting this to post so if it shows up more than once blame google.

I’d rather blame you.
BJ
Bruce Johnstone
May 3, 2007
I think your looking for a 3D animation program like Bryce 3D.

Bruce
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BJ
May 3, 2007
I think your looking for 3D animation software like Bryce 3D.

Bruce
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BJ
May 3, 2007
Try a 3D animation program like Bryce 3D. Check out the – alt.binaries.3d.bryce – newsgroup.

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May 4, 2007
On Thu, 3 May 2007 19:40:48 -0400, "BJ" wrote:

There is a rather cheap ($29.95) 3D modeling program called Cool3D if you can still find it (Ulead). http://www.ulead.com/cool3d/runme.htm.

Try a 3D animation program like Bryce 3D. Check out the – alt.binaries.3d.bryce – newsgroup.
RG
Roy G
May 4, 2007
"Neil Hindry" wrote in message
I wonder if you can help.

I am fairly new to Photoshop and want to do something but have no idea how to go about it.

This is what I want to do, I hope you understand my explanation.
Take a rectangular piece of wood; it has 2 wide sides and 2 narrow sides. I am looking at one of the two wide sides.
I want to turn the piece of wood slowly until I am looking at one of the narrow sides. Then, I want to continue turning until I am looking at the back of the piece of wood (i.e I’m looking at the second wide side which is the back of where I started).
Then I want to continue turning until I am looking at the second narrow side. Finally I want to turn again until I am back where I started.
I know this is not the easiest thing to explain but I hope you get the idea.

Does anyone know how I can do this?
Does anyone know what it is called? I have tried rotate but it does not do what I want (i.e it moves my image in the same way a clock hand moves and this is not what I want).

I hope you can help me.

I appreciate any help or information given.

Thanks!
In Photoshop, you are NOT looking at a piece of wood.

You are looking at a 2 dimensional image of a piece of wood. It has width and length, but no depth.

You CANNOT turn it over and see the underside.

Roy G.
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Tacit
May 6, 2007
In article <4639e41c$0$19251$>,
"Neil Hindry" wrote:

Take a rectangular piece of wood; it has 2 wide sides and 2 narrow sides. I am looking at one of the two wide sides.
I want to turn the piece of wood slowly until I am looking at one of the narrow sides. Then, I want to continue turning until I am looking at the back of the piece of wood (i.e I’m looking at the second wide side which is the back of where I started).
Then I want to continue turning until I am looking at the second narrow side. Finally I want to turn again until I am back where I started.

You can not rotate a two-dimensional image in three-dimensional space in Photoshop. When you take a picture of a piece of wood, there is no "behind" the wood.

If you want to create an animation of this kind of thing in Photoshop, here is what you do:

Step 1: Clamp your piece of wood in a rotating jig, such as a lathe.

Step 2: Shoot a photograph of the wood.

Step 3: Rotate the wood by a small amount.

Step 4: Shoot photograph of the piece of wood.

Step 5: Rotate the wood by a small amount.

Step 6: Shoot a photograph.

Step 7: Repeat steps 5-6 until you have photographs of the wood from every angle. This will probably take quite a hile and a large number of photographs.

Step 8: Assemble the photographs in laters in a Photoshop file.

Step 9: create an animation in ImageReady.

If you do not want to use a real piece of wood, then you’re going to have to abandon Photoshop and use a 3D rendering program.

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