Try to reduce the memory allocation in PS to 50% as a test. Anything strange visible in Task Manager?
Rob
A) Nothing Strange Visible in Task Manager = Photoshop 7 uses all the Processing Power
B) It’s already at 50% (I’ll Try setting it lower – BUT note – The RAM isn’t running out – the processor just gets too busy to do anything for a while – also makes winamp music break up & stutter)
Set it to 35% & no change…
Yet my PS7 is bogged down (sometime take 5 min for an airbrush effect to appear
That’s an awful long time. How much free space is on the scratch disk? Do you only have one HD or two? If one, is it partitioned? If it’s on the C drive, have you tried defragging?
Oh, and set your memory allocation back to 70-75%.
Peace,
Tony
Perhaps it’s not a factor, but you’re running both Sygate Personal Firewall and Norton Internet Security? I’d think one to be sufficient and while not necessarily affect PS performance, it is nonetheless using perhaps more of your resources than need be. Just a thought.
Daryl
You’re not trying to work on files across at network at your job, by any chance, are you?
If so…STOP IT IMMEDIATELY. This is against all recommended practicae.
OR, is the computer looking for a networked printer?
It seems that many performance issues are simply related to the program looking for a network printer. Turn off the printer and problem go away!
also make sure you’re not running windows without a swap file… 7.01 should fairly scream under that setup.
Oh, and don’t forget to disable anything Norton…
Disabling anything Norton during troubleshooting perhaps, but if you use Norton Anti-Virus, re-enable afterwards. Personally I’ve not seen any issues with Norton products since PS6 and Win2K, where Norton Protection caused major performance problems. So, while I find Chris’s suggestion a bit of an exaggeration, it is prudent to consider Norton or other utility programs infringing upon PS performance.
Regards,
Daryl
Daryl,
I used to have AutoProtect running in the background. To the tune of about 4 years. A few months ago, all of a sudden, it started causing MAJOR system lags – mouse cursor lag, refreshes in Explorer, etc. It was horrible. Try and launch a JPG in ACDSee by double clicking on the file and you could wait up to 3 minutes for it to display! I never did figure out why it started, and in fact it took me a while to isolate IT as the cause because it had worked so well before.
Now, I haven’t defragged C drive in about 3 years (shaddup!), but until I do that, AutoProtect is staying off because in my experience Chris’ suggestion is not so much of an exaggeration. <shrug>
Peace,
Tony
NAV is the only one I use anymore. Back in the dos days, however… 🙂
NAV is the only one I use anymore
Me too, but for the sake of clarification, a feature of NAV is AutoProtect – when it loads in the system tray.
yes i use autoprotect. maybe i’m misunderstanding you. the problems were mostly with the protected recycle bin, a feature of system works or norton utilities for the old timers, not with NAV or nav autoprotect. (although there was a flap about a bad web certificate at the beginning of this year affecting norton antivirus updates 2004 (and 2003?) fixed, last i heard, i believe.) 2002 is and has been fine.
maybe i’m misunderstanding you.
I was just saying to Daryl, that when Chris said "disable all nortion" that it wasn’t an exaggeration about having the potential to slow things up. For a long time AutoProtect was running fine in the background. Now, it brings my system to a crawl, I had to disable AutoProtect from startup. It was taking three minutes to scan while ACDSee launched a stupid JPG.
What changed? <shrug> I dunno.
Tony,
I know what you’re saying and I also understand Chris is only trying to help, hence both my use of "a bit" and "prudent" in my earlier posting. Knowing the value of good anti-virus protection and that Norton Anti-Virus is one of the most effective such applications, I just think that Chris’s suggestion needed to be relaxed somewhat. Certainly in trying to isolate a problem, it is good advice to disable as many applications and background processes as possible, then gradually reintroduce those deemed necessary while watching for a return of the problem. With the multitude of software configurations around, I’d not be surprised to hear of some Norton applications causing problems, but I’d not really expect ALL of them to do so on one system. Personally, I’m getting further and further away from using any Norton apps because they do load up so many processes; one that particularly irritates me is ccProxy which often fails. That is related to the Internet Security package which works well save for those periodic failures. To overcome some of the problem I’ve editing the services to restart immediately but I think a better long-term solution may be to move to some other effective but less resource-grabbing application, such as ZoneAlarm. So again, I can appreciate the intent of Chris’s suggestion but it just seems a bit overzealous per my personal experience. Your mileage may vary. 😉
Regards,
Daryl
No, I got your point Daryl. I was picking gnat poop out of pepper to explain a specific circumstance.
Btw…
I think a better long-term solution may be to move to some other effective but less resource-grabbing application, such as ZoneAlarm.
ZoneAlarm is the ONLY personal firewall that does stateful packet inspecting not just a simple static packet filter like others. They really knew what they were doing when they built it.
Peace,
Tony
For a long time AutoProtect was running fine
oh, that autoprtect. used to be called drive image or image right? also part of system works, doesn’t come with nav. so… nevermind. 🙂
used to be called drive image or image right?
No.
It’s a mem resident type applet of NAV. It scans everything you open prior to launching.
See This Screenshot <
http://www.myoldyearbookcd.com/tests/autoprot.jpg>
Good thing I looked at it my Defs are out of date! Doh!
On my machines, Norton AV with AutoProtect enabled has not caused any noticeable slow-up in 4 years. It is just plain AV – no other fancy bells and whistles.
You can toggle Autoprotect on and off in the System Tray to check its effect.
Cheers – John
John,
You can toggle Autoprotect on and off in the System Tray to check its effect
Yeah, I know. It ran for like 4 years, nicely in the sys tray. Then one day, boom – total system slow down. Not a big deal, I’ll get around to TS’ing it.
oh. 🙂
hmm… you can configure that to scan all new and downloaded files and turn off the scan on open. that’s what it’s doing when you open an jpg.
I know, thanks. This got out of hand. I’ve been meaning to look into it, but not necessary immediately <grin>.
I just re-read the original message.
How can Christo be running Photoshop 6 trial?
?
Good catch, but he’s running PS7 at work. It looks like he was saying that he’s tested trial versions at home without a problem. How he got PS 6 Trial, well, it’s possible he downloaded it and has had it forever and never installed it.
Good question though.
He also may have loaded it from an old magazine demo CD.
And IIRC, the PS 6 demo was crippled. No save, no export, no print. But it would last forever.
Bob
My apologies for taaking so long to reply…
I had cleaned up my machine, & defragged… (I finally got time to do so)… It is running better now, but still slow…
I don’t use files across network, we always copy to our HD before working on it…
I have 1 HD, 80Gig, no partitions – against my opinion…
As I said, PS is Running better, but still nowhere near the performance PS7 has on a Mac (similar to my PC in Power)…but acceptable… (still prefer to have it faster if possible)
The only other problem I have with PS7 is sometimes when I double click to add a layer effect, the Adobe Help site keeps popping up (many many many windows) for no reason & after that the buttons stop working until I restart PS7…not a major problem, but annoying none the less…
Thanks for everyones time.
the Adobe Help site keeps popping up (many many many windows)
that’s an indication of starving your machince for resources. increase the size of your windows swap file. it should be set to about 2 1/2 times the amount of memory installed on the machine.
increase the size of your windows swap file. it should be set to about 2 1/2 times the amount of memory installed on the machine.
Or if the amount of memory allocated to photoshop under Edit|Preferences|Memory and Cache is > 50%, you can drop that down to about 50% and give the OS some ram back.
If I’m not right about that, Dave’ll say so <grin>.
Peace,
Tony
he already tried that tony 🙂
Christo vd Merwe 8/23/04 5:19am </cgi-bin/webx?14/2>
I read somewhere that a recent windows patch can slow down the machines drastically.
